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STR Ambassador
March 14th 2005, 01:29 PM
How to Assess the Truth

by Greg Koukl


Two nights ago I was in Las Vegas, doing what has been almost a yearly event there with the Central Christian Church, a huge church out there, right on the border with Henderson and the city of Las Vegas itself. I have a great time when I go out there.

One issue came up in the Q&A when I was talking about moral relativism. I thought about it today because I made the comment about listening to this show, and learning to be a better thinker as a result. That is one of my goals here at Stand to Reason, and we consistently get feedback that, by using our resources, people develop the ability to think carefully.

The question that was asked by someone in the audience in Las Vegas that pertained to the inability of Americans, and even American Christians, to think carefully because thinking just takes effort. If you’re not used to it, thinking carefully and hard can be tiresome, difficult, and wearying. That’s why sometimes an hour and a half or two hours with a Stand to Reason speaker leaves your head swimming just a bit because you are not expected to be a mere spectator who is entertained. Instead, you’re expected to be a student who is educated, an Ambassador for Christ who is trained. We want you to become at least mentally involved in the process. One of the reasons that we are unable to think carefully or clearly in our culture is that we’re not taught how. We were taught more of that 40 and more years ago. But this kind of education has been left behind for the most part. The skill of reasoning from a set of premises or a body of facts and knowledge validly to a conclusion that follows from those facts or precepts or concepts, just isn’t done. Instead, what students get is the distraction from the process. And that includes all of the informal fallacies that go along with bad thinking: red herrings, circular reasoning, ad hominems. When faced with all that, careful thinkers have got to remove it all from the mix to try to assess a statement, a claim, or an idea.

This is a frustrating thing if you know a little bit about how to do that because especially during an election season, many goofy things are said that once you begin to take the time to remove the silliness, there is often no point left. There’s nothing there but fallacies. The common thing in our election cycle is to try to disqualify a point being made, by one side or the other, by looking at the motives, allegedly ignominious motives, that someone might have in making the point.

C.S. Lewis made a very valuable contribution here. In his book God in the Dock, he wrote an essay called “Bulverism.” It’s not a sickness. It’s a habit named after someone named Bulver. I don’t know who he was, but Lewis describes this intellectual vice. It’s the same vice that many have nowadays in trying to deal with an issue. This falls under the category of red herrings that are not substantive, that keep us from assessing claims to figure out what the truth of the matter is. This common tactic now is just to fault a view because of its source. “Oh, he says that because….” and then appeal to what the people faulting the view think are the nefarious motives involved.

Ladies and gentlemen, the truth of a statement is unaffected by one’s motives. In fact, it’s not relevant to talk about motives or intentions until you’ve looked at the statement itself and found it to be false. Here’s the specific contribution C.S. Lewis makes in his short piece, “First you must determine that a person is mistaken before it’s reasonable to ask why he is mistaken.“ If you have not have established that the person has, in fact, blundered, that their point of view is false, it does no good at all to talk about their motives unless you want to distract from their claim itself.

This is done all the time, especially during the “silly season.” “Oh, these are Bush supporters that have done this.” “Oh, these are Kerry people that said this.” “Obviously, they want to win the campaign.” “Obviously, they want to smear.” And so the ideas are dismissed. But this isn’t good thinking. One has to evaluate the claims themselves. If you want to get rid of a claim properly, you don’t simply try to smear the other person. I’m talking about a mere ad hominem, calling names. If the facts in question relate to the person’s character, that’s something different. But to only dismiss, smear, or distract from the issue doesn’t do the job.

Good thinking requires clearing the deck, figuring out the silliness that’s getting in the way that is just distracting. You have to learn how to see those things that can be removed from the discussion. The irony is that the minute you start to discard these red herrings, there’s nothing left to the claim. There is no substance.

In the religious realm, someone might say, “Oh, you’re a Christian because you were born that way. You were raised in a Christian culture. You’re a Christian because you need a crutch. You like feeling that there’s a God in heaven that takes care of you. You like the idea that you are not alone.” Well, these are all possibly interesting observations about the mental profile of people of faith, but you see, I hope, that these tell you nothing at all about whether or not the person’s belief is true. It doesn’t offer any argument about the truthfulness of Christianity.

It might be the case that Greg Koukl is a Christian because he was born in America, and Americans are Christians. That’s certainly not universally the case. A lot of people born in America are not Christians or many born in Christian homes leave their faith. But even if I were to accept that assertion, what does it tell me about the substance or legitimacy of the claims of Christianity? It doesn’t tell me anything. It just tells me about my sociology.

You could say, “Koukl has got a virus and he’s taking antibiotics. He wouldn’t be doing that if he were born in the jungles of the Amazon. Then he would get a witch doctor because it is the culture that determines how people respond in those circumstances.” And that observation may be entirely true, but it tells you nothing about the effectiveness of antibiotics or witch doctors. Those methods have to be assessed on different grounds. If antibiotics heal, they heal irrespective of the culture - even if it was administered in the Amazon.

By the same token, it may be that my culture has influenced me to believe in Jesus but that doesn’t make Jesus false, or true for that matter. The truth or falsity of any claim is determined by the facts pertinent to the claim itself.

Do you know what careful thinking amounts to, ladies and gentlemen? It’s really quite simple. It’s trying to find the truth by looking at the reasons that someone gives for what they claim is true. There are a couple of things to evaluate. What’s the big idea? That is, what’s the claim? The next step is why should you believe what they claim? What are the reasons? What’s the grounding? What’s the evidence?

A good argument is like a house. You’ve got a roof and you’ve got walls. The walls support the roof. In the argument, the roof is the big idea, and the walls are the reasons that support it. If you don’t have good support, the roof sits on the ground and nobody can live in that. The argument falters.

Back to Lewis. First, you must show that a person is mistaken before it’s relevant to ask why he’s mistaken.

In order to find truth, we need to be able to think carefully about issues. If we do the job poorly, we should not be surprised if we come to wrong conclusions that ultimately hurt us in the end. If we allow others to twist and distort the truth, and we buy the false thinking and follow rabbit trails, then we’ll never get to the truth. There are consequences to these things. Ideas have consequences.

My appeal is that you are careful in thinking about the critical issues of life. There are right answers and wrong answers. Careful thinking and some basic rules of reasoning will serve you well in assessing the truth.


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EvoUK
March 14th 2005, 04:12 PM
“Oh, you’re a Christian because you were born that way. You were raised in a Christian culture. You’re a Christian because you need a crutch. You like feeling that there’s a God in heaven that takes care of you. You like the idea that you are not alone.” Well, these are all possibly interesting observations about the mental profile of people of faith, but you see, I hope, that these tell you nothing at all about whether or not the person’s belief is true. It doesn’t offer any argument about the truthfulness of Christianity.

Though it is an interesting observation to note that muslims are found in islamic countries/communities, christians in christian countries/communities, hindues in hindu countries/communities and so on. A bit of a stumbling block for those who wish to claim that their community/upbringing has nothing to do with their choice of religion...

A lot of people born in America are not Christians or many born in Christian homes leave their faith.

[tongue in cheek]True, those exposed to critical thinking and rational thought tend to leave religions and become liberal :wink: [/tongue in cheek]

But even if I were to accept that assertion, what does it tell me about the substance or legitimacy of the claims of Christianity? It doesn’t tell me anything. It just tells me about my sociology.

It simply tells you the probability of you accepting one religion over another are significantly influenced by your upbrinnging and community.

Need to go, may respond later.

BronzeArcher
March 14th 2005, 07:54 PM
"these tell you nothing at all about whether or not the person’s belief is true."

Where did you see Koukl claim that culture doesn't affect what religion people adhere to? He actually said, "By the same token, it may be that my culture has influenced me to believe in Jesus but that doesn’t make Jesus false, or true for that matter."

EvoUK
March 15th 2005, 12:04 PM
Never said otherwise- what I did say was:

Though it is an interesting observation to note that muslims are found in islamic countries/communities, christians in christian countries/communities, hindues in hindu countries/communities and so on. A bit of a stumbling block for those who wish to claim that their community/upbringing has nothing to do with their choice of religion...

Personally, I think he's arguing against a non-issue. The truthfulness of christianity should be about how well backed up their claims are- I don't remember seeing the above argument as an argument against christianity in itself, merely a claim made by some of its members.

I view it the same way as people who show a moral outrage against the bible god- yeah, I agree with them, I think "he's" a cretin. However, I also realise it has no effect what so ever on whether or not "he" exists.

Perhaps I should have made it clearer, I was in a rush.

lucaspa
March 16th 2005, 01:57 PM
Ladies and gentlemen, the truth of a statement is unaffected by one’s motives.
This is very important. I put it this way:

Ideas and arguments are independent of the people who make them or advocate for them. Once an idea is stated it takes on a life of its own and is not connected to the person who made it.

In fact, it’s not relevant to talk about motives or intentions until you’ve looked at the statement itself and found it to be false. Here you look at the motives of the person advocating a false statement as though it were true.

This comes up a lot in the evolution vs creationism debate. Many scientists declare creationism not to be science because of the behavior of creationists. That is, because creationists do no behave as good scientists, the conclusion is that creationism is not science. The mistake even got into Judge Overton's court decision on the teaching of creation science in public schools in 1982.

As another perspective on this idea, this is how Larry Laudan puts it in the discussion of whether creation science is science;

There is a more interesting-if equally significant confusion running through much of Ruse's discussion, a confusion revealing a further failure to come to terms with the case I was propounding in "Science at the Bar." I refer to his (and Overton's) continual slide between assessing doctrines and assessing those who hold the doctrines. Ruse reminds us (and this loomed large in the McLean opinion as well) that many advocates of creation-science tend to be dogmatic, slow to learn from experience, and willing to resort to all manner of ad hoc strategies so as to hold onto their beliefs in the face of counter evidence. For the sake of argument, let all that be granted; let us assume that the creationists exhibit precisely those traits of intellectual dishonesty which the friends of science scrupulously and unerringly avoid. Ruse believes (and Judge Overton appears to concur) that, if we once establish these traits to be true of creationists, then we can conclude that Creationism is untestable and unfalsifiable (and "therefore unscientific").
This just will not do. Knowing something about the idiosyncratic mindset of various creationists may have a bearing on certain practical issues (such as "Would you want your daughter to marry one?"). But we learned a long time ago that there is a difference between ad hominem and ad argumentum. Creationists make assertions about the world. Once made, those assertions take on a life of their own. Because they do, we can assess the merits or demerits of creationist theory without having to speculate about the unsavoriness of the mental habits of creationists. What we do, of course, is to examine the empirical evidence relevant to the creationist claims about earth history. If those claims are discredited by the available evidence (and by "discredited" I mean impugned by the use of rules of reasoning which legal and philosophical experts on the nature of evidence have articulated), then Creationism can safely be put on the scrap heap of unjustified theories." Larry Laudan, "More on Creationism", Chapter 24 in But Is It Science? Edited by M Ruse pp 363-366

Assess the idea, not the person.

In the religious realm, someone might say, “Oh, you’re a Christian because you were born that way. You were raised in a Christian culture. You’re a Christian because you need a crutch. You like feeling that there’s a God in heaven that takes care of you. You like the idea that you are not alone.” Well, these are all possibly interesting observations about the mental profile of people of faith, but you see, I hope, that these tell you nothing at all about whether or not the person’s belief is true. It doesn’t offer any argument about the truthfulness of Christianity. Compare to above.

lucaspa
March 16th 2005, 02:00 PM
It simply tells you the probability of you accepting one religion over another are significantly influenced by your upbrinnging and community. It may also tell you how you will tend to interpret any religious experiences you do have. That is, someone raised in a Muslim community who hears the "small, quiet voice" will tend to think the communication is from Allah, because that is the background.

In science, this is called the "rose colored glasses behind the eyes." :smile: