Submit Your Candidates for June Screwballs of the Month

[jpholding]

Same rules, new month. Oboy. :tongue:

[Darth Executor]

I hope you're putting that Farrell Till comic up today...

[jpholding]

I hope you're putting that Farrell Till comic up today...

Just loaded it. I'll be making sure it and everything else is up OK over the next 10-15 minutes. You may be able to see it now via http://www.tektonics.org/toons/toons.html

[bar Jonah]

Do personal encounters count for anything? :ripurple:

[jpholding]

Do personal encounters count for anything? :ripurple:

Go for it.

[bar Jonah]

Actually, I decided to post some of our most memorable encounters from this past weekend in a new thread in the GODISNOWHERE subforum, but I'll include one or two here, as well. LOL

GODISNOWHERE - Boulder Creek Fest recollections (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=54491)



A supposedly messianic "Christian" who told me all about how Paul was a heretic who we should take out of the Bible, because after all, he taught different things than the Twelve and Jesus in His earthly ministry, and he wasn't a disciple under Jesus like the Twelve.... He also said he thought John should have taken some Lithium before writing his Revelation.

We had one fellow who said Jesus was a spiritual "Master," and that he himself has met two Christs in this lifetime. Both of these "Masters" had what sounded like east Indian names, though I'm not sure. A few moments later he figured out that we are a Christian ministry, and suddenly became literally enraged, shouting at us that we are "fundamentalist" Christians (which we're not), and cussing up and down, right and left, calling us vulgar names, saying we are pure evil, etc. I asked him calmly if this is the fruit of his spirit, the evidence of the wisdom those two "Christs" imparted to him? Was this the face of his faith, the true nature of his inner peace and joy? Daniel finally told the man he had to leave, or we would call the police. The raving lunatic eventually left, still shouting obsceneties at us. As he departed, I thanked him for showing the world the fruit of his spirit.

The "Catholic" who told us that Jesus probably didn't even die, much less resurrect, and that he simply doesn't care if he goes to Hell or not because, after all, he's served the purpose for which God created him -- a few years ago, he used his psychic powers to prevent an airliner crash disaster.

[Darth Executor]

Can't see anything. Be back in an hour or so.

[Higon]

Anyone can play this game? Even expressionless forum noobs? Ok then, there you go:

http://www.justgivemethetruth.com/

Are you ready to hear about

The BIGGEST Blunder of the Church for the past 2000 years!

Expect to be shocked!

"For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two edged sword" (Hebrews 4:12b)

Just as Judas was indwelled by Satan to betray Jesus, Paul was indwelled by Satan to destroy Christianity! Paul taught ANOTHER Gospel! Why else did Constantine and the Pagan leaders take out the books of the disciples and put in Paul's! To lead YOU away from the truth and into a FALSE Gospel!

Hope this website is not old news to you.

[jpholding]

Anyone can play this game? Even expressionless forum noobs? Ok then, there you go:

http://www.justgivemethetruth.com/



Hope this website is not old news to you.

It isn't, but the idea is the same as Ken Schei's Christianity Betrayed. It will win at least a silver.

[bar Jonah]

That's what Islam says about Paul, as well. "James the Just," .... but "Paul the Liar."

My favorite part:

King James was a homosexual mason, 33rd degree. He hired Sir Francis Bacon to translate the KJV. Sir Francis Bacon, also a 33rd degree mason, was also known as Shakespeare.
:rilol:

Well, they did get one thing right -- Paul taught a different gospel than the Twelve did, different from what Jesus taught in His earthly ministry, and different from what you find in Revelation. And rightly so, for good reason.

The fact remains that the Twelve recognized Paul's authority to do exactly that, and extended the right hand of fellowship, and even accepted rebuke from Paul when one of them (Peter) preached heresy.

[BronzeArcher]

Hm. I asked if Ingersoll was a biblical scholar (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?p=15884555&postcount=9), and I get...

"Why is it important that he be a biblical schlor?"

When referenced to Holding's article on calculated contempt, we have this great almighty refutation:

"I went to Holding's site and found it quite vapid. He says, "It doesn't take very long to realize that a thorough understanding of the Bible -- and this would actually apply to any complex work from any culture -- requires specialized knowledge, and a broad range of specialized knowledge in a variety of fields." Would that mean even if a christian did not have such "specialized knowledge" he would be unqualified to expound on the bible? Even if he agreed with it? Goes both ways. Hmm; I wonder if Holding is such an expert..........I also wonder if Holding thinks that one must be an expert before criticizing such books as the Koran........naaaaaaa!

Sounds like Holding is trying to scare people off from reading material written by critics of the bible. Nice try."

I think he's on some strawman there, but also, does he really think that agreement is a requirement to properly exegete? o_O

Edit: My response is posted (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?p=15907053&posted=1#post15907053).

[Darth Executor]

:rofl:

Very good stuff JP.

[jason]

Anyone can play this game? Even expressionless forum noobs? Ok then, there you go:

http://www.justgivemethetruth.com/



Hope this website is not old news to you.
Wow, that guy is the special sort of crazy.

I think he should win, nothing can top this.

*jason waits to be surprised*

Jason

[Sparko]

Anyone can play this game? Even expressionless forum noobs? Ok then, there you go:

http://www.justgivemethetruth.com/



Hope this website is not old news to you.

Thats pretty good.

But your quote doesn't do justice to the site.

How come wacko's always lay their websites out in the most awful looking layouts? That is about the ugliest site I have ever seen.

I guess words are MORE IMPORTANT when you USE CAPITAL letters randomLY, various type sizes and use lots of different colors and formatting.

[Richard-H]

actually, i think some people create these sites just to create a poor image of the ideal in question.

[eudyptes]

Thats pretty good.

But your quote doesn't do justice to the site.

How come wacko's always lay their websites out in the most awful looking layouts? That is about the ugliest site I have ever seen.

I guess words are MORE IMPORTANT when you USE CAPITAL letters randomLY, various type sizes and use lots of different colors and formatting.


Reminded me of a Dial-a-truth site.

[{Tim}]

Here's one, on the topic of Gay marriages:

http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=54385

What matters is what the Moral Law Giver says about our sexual conduct.Seeing as your god and jesus (or both combine as they are in your mind) have never had sex with anyone, ever - never lived lives like the couple above - Why do you feel that they are qualified to make comments on them? Just a question that occured to me - late night thinking.

I reckon that'd be worth at least a bronze... :wink:

"No Daddy, you can't tell me it's wrong to pull the doggy's tail, because you haven't done it yourself!"

[Darth Executor]

I want to submit my school's used book store for making me wait until the 15th before I get my money. :brood:

[Darth Executor]

Btw what's the name of the song you made a parody of under Jimbo's new comic?

[Cynic Sage]

Btw what's the name of the song you made a parody of under Jimbo's new comic?

"Infatuation", It's by Prozzak.

[jpholding]

Hmm; I wonder if Holding is such an expert..........I also wonder if Holding thinks that one must be an expert before criticizing such books as the Koran........naaaaaaa!

Yeeeeeahhhh, actually, I do think you must be an expert to criticize the Koran. That's why I "farm out" all my stuff on Islam by either linking to experts (answering-islam.org) or using one of my personal consults on the subject. I wrote nothing on Islam itself (tho' I have replied to a Muslim or two who has criticized the Bible).

Tell Dum Dum to back up and try again.

[Darth Executor]

Ha ha I honestly couldn't imagine a grown man like JP listening to Prozzac.

[jpholding]

Ha ha I honestly couldn't imagine a grown man like JP listening to Prozzac.

Huh?

I barely understand what's being said by Weird Al Yankovic...

Cu asked if he won again. Yes, a bronze.

[Cynic Sage]

Ha ha I honestly couldn't imagine a grown man like JP listening to Prozzac.

Yeah, that would be weird :hrm:
Actually, it was I who did the song parody.

[Darth Executor]

Yeah, that would be weird :hrm:
Actually, it was I who did the song parody.

Great job. The entire Toons update was awesome. I just wish I would've read them in order to get the Farrell Till ending in Jimbo's.

[jpholding]

Already on the slate to be tooned next month -- "Gargamel" (or FormerFundy, as he is called here).

[Sparko]

don't forget to do a toon of Johnny Skeptic.

I did a rip off cartoon of him once, but I am sure you can do a better job.

[jpholding]

don't forget to do a toon of Johnny Skeptic.


Darn. I need him around again for an inspiration. :sad: Maybe I can do one with him and Carrier all at once.

[Sparko]

yeah do one of Johnny hiring carrier and sitting behind him directing him, rubbing his hands together in glee. (in my cartoon, carrier would be smithers, heheh)

[BronzeArcher]

Yeeeeeahhhh, actually, I do think you must be an expert to criticize the Koran. That's why I "farm out" all my stuff on Islam by either linking to experts (answering-islam.org) or using one of my personal consults on the subject. I wrote nothing on Islam itself (tho' I have replied to a Muslim or two who has criticized the Bible).

Tell Dum Dum to back up and try again.

I had a fairly even response to him, and one funny part was when I responded to a request for examples where scholars who's works are antithetical to skeptic's views...

"You think that it's not important to be a biblical scholar. I smile in genuine amusement."

Then I quoted Pilch as saying,

In its conclusion (p. 128), the document fittingly insists that

The eternal Word became incarnate at a precise period of history, within a clearly defined cultural and social environment. Anyone who desires to understand the Word of God should humbly seek it out there where it has made itself visible and accept to this end the necessary help of human knowledge (author's comment: or as the document elsewhere proposes, the human sciences such as sociology, cultural anthropology, etc.).

Many who use cultural anthropology to interpret the Bible rely particularly upon its sub-discipline, Mediterranean anthropology. Fully appreciating differences that exist between modern and ancient times and even between individual countries in those ages, scholars believe insights from this discipline are extremely helpful in imagining in a disciplined and testable way the cultural and social environment in which Jesus lived. Any interpretation that ignores such insights distorts the scripture like a funhouse mirror.

I was laughing when typing it. Hey, he asked for it... He said in response, "Sigh. Take a breath, Robby. It ain't worth it." :lol:

[jpholding]

Remember when I wrote this?

You put your tomb stone in,
you take your tomb stone out,
you put your tomb stone in and
you shake it all about!
You do the Johnny Skeptic and you get all turned around,
and that's what it's all a-bout!

I'm reading Empty Tomb: Jesus Beyond the Grave. Guess who gave Johnny the idea that someone opened the tomb, took the body, put the stone back, and then it was pulled away again later....

Hint: He just won a screwball award last month. :huh:

[Cynic Sage]

Remember when I wrote this?

You put your tomb stone in,
you take your tomb stone out,
you put your tomb stone in and
you shake it all about!
You do the Johnny Skeptic and you get all turned around,
and that's what it's all a-bout!

I'm reading Empty Tomb: Jesus Beyond the Grave. Guess who gave Johnny the idea that someone opened the tomb, took the body, put the stone back, and then it was pulled away again later....

Hint: He just won a screwball award last month. :huh:

Was it Babinski?

[jpholding]

Was it Babinski?

ARGH! No! :argh:

But you weren't here when all this happened...

Hint:

[bar Jonah]

ARGH! No! :argh:

But you weren't here when all this happened...

Hint:
Btw, J.P.H. ... that pic is erroneously named "boat.jpg."

It is NOT a boat. That is a ship, sir. :rihrm:

[Cynic Sage]

ARGH! No! :argh:

But you weren't here when all this happened...

Hint:

Oh, him.

I guess I gave Carrier too much Credit.:lol:

[jpholding]

Btw, J.P.H. ... that pic is erroneously named "boat.jpg."


Of course! You didn't think I'd give it away TOO easy in the name of the file, did you??? Sheesh. :blush:

[Darth Executor]

Of course! You didn't think I'd give it away TOO easy in the name of the file, did you??? Sheesh. :blush:
JP is May's screwball award page up yet? My netscape's been playing tricks on me lately so I just want to make sure because it isn't showing up.

[BronzeArcher]

JP is May's screwball award page up yet? My netscape's been playing tricks on me lately so I just want to make sure because it isn't showing up.
Yeah, but it's not linked to yet.

http://www.tektonics.org/parody/may05scr.htm

[The Laughing Man]

Yeah, but it's not linked to yet.

http://www.tektonics.org/parody/may05scr.htm

Woah. It's stuff like that which makes me glad I'm no longer an atheist.

[Piebald]

There's a Typo:

Golden dun award winners

[Darth Executor]

Hmm. If I counted correctly 5 of my nominees made it.

[Rayado]

Other than Tweb there's a little forum run by my ISP that I used to mod for (Xavier knows what I'm talking about). Every now and then, in its Religion section, someone comes out of the woodwork and displays a startling lack of gray matter. One such gem was delivered unto us today by a rather...fundamentalist "smorgasboard spiritualist." After I pointed out those pesky and unavoidable logical inconsistincies of picking and choosing different beliefs, this was the response. From the "Eat your heart out, Julian of Norwich" department (emphasis added):

I don't have a cut I read and if something clicks with my perception of what the right thing should be and if it feels right inside of myself I meditate on it and the answer is apointed to me I do have several different things I have adopted from several different religions but I alot of what I believe I have dreamed up per say and it works for me and that's how I apply it to my life. I do not need someone to say hey that's bad or that's wrong I get feelings unexplainable feelings as if the universe has it's own way of telling you you've done good or wrong I explain it as Karma.

:doh:

[Darth Executor]

I see he drew his own conclusions as to what karma means as well. :rofl:

[Darth Executor]

How about this thread?
http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showthread.php?p=1054590#post1054590

[jpholding]

How about this thread?
http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showthread.php?p=1054590#post1054590

You know it. Solid Gold, baby.

[wraizyr]

http://www.blizzforums.com/showpost.php?p=1375358&postcount=692 Post

http://www.blizzforums.com/showthread.php?p=1375556#post1375556 Thread

I'm not sure if that's the best post to sum up the idiocy, but Khushrenada is trying to defend the dictionary.com definition of faith as being the proper one, and ignore the whole Patron-Client thing from way back when the Bible was actually written.

[Darth Executor]

:lmbo:

It reminds me of an argumet with Chris Baba of evilbible.com

He insisted that because dictionary.com says that anybody who claims to be a Christian is a Christian then it must be true and I can't bring "outside definitions".

[Sparko]

:lmbo:

It reminds me of an argumet with Chris Baba of evilbible.com

He insisted that because dictionary.com says that anybody who claims to be a Christian is a Christian then it must be true and I can't bring "outside definitions".

Well then I am an atheist who believes in God and Jesus.

[Cynic Sage]

:lmbo:

It reminds me of an argumet with Chris Baba of evilbible.com

He insisted that because dictionary.com says that anybody who claims to be a Christian is a Christian then it must be true and I can't bring "outside definitions".

Can you link to that?

[Cynic Sage]

Apple, on when the Bible says life begins.

http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showpost.php?p=1055388&postcount=39

I'm not against abortion because of a little something called <i>the breath of life</i>. The <i>breath of life</i> is the start of life. The <breath if life</i> "as smoke in the nostrils." Can you think of anything that could be construed as "smoke in nostrils" where a fetus is located?

So I guess I was never truly alive until I was exposed to secondhand smoke.:lol:

[bar Jonah]

Well then I am an atheist who believes in God and Jesus.
Actually, there are people who say they "believe in Jesus," and yet say He is just a man, not God, and that the resurrection didn't happen.

The GODISNOWHERE ministry has coined a term for these folks. They aren't Christians, because they actually reject Him as Christ. Christ = God. Christ = resurrection. And so we call them...

Jesusians.

[Sparko]

Actually, there are people who say they "believe in Jesus," and yet say He is just a man, not God, and that the resurrection didn't happen.

The GODISNOWHERE ministry has coined a term for these folks. They aren't Christians, because they actually reject Him as Christ. Christ = God. Christ = resurrection. And so we call them...

Jesusians.

I would just call them idiots.

[Mark_S]

Well then I am an atheist who believes in God and Jesus.

But the scholarly Encyclopedia Brittanica says.......

[Darth Executor]

Can you link to that?

No. I took an oath before all the forces of good that I would never go back to that message board. It's in the "Hitler was a Christian" message board and since the site averages about 3 topics per section it shouldn't be very difficult to find. It was a while ago though so the topic might have been purged.

[Sparko]

But the scholarly Encyclopedia Brittanica says.......:rofl:

[johnny skeptic reference for those who didnt get it]

[Cynic Sage]

I nominate Dobbie, the Tweb house-elf (Harry Potter reference).

http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showthread.php?t=54729

Shadowmaster had just posted about a conflict arising between him and his teenage daughter.

It is not good. Daughter has gone "BRAIN DEAD".

Margo wants to nurse her FOR 5 MORE YEARS

Shadow wants to kick her butt

Help & advice is needed


Buy her a cell phone so you never have to talk to her.

If she gets one, who pays the bill?

Shadow

Wait, so she is or isn't a Christian? That she can use a cell phone seems to indicate 'no'.

How so?

For those who missed it, I was attempting to imply that Christian = Braindead.

Kudos on raising a daughter actually useful to the world.

Dobbie, I think your team of writers is significantly overpaid.:lol:

Hatred is its own reward.

Man, that last one, he sounds just like some sort of cheesy, comic-book supervillian. :lol:

[Darth Executor]

Shadowfury200 from the gamefaqs horde of imbeciles:

Lev 18:22 Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.

From that quote alone, isn't it possible that's just a translation issue and it meant to say 'no man shall lie to another man'? The quote is taken out of context, but you see my point.

[Piebald]

J.P., tonight I found this image on the Internet:


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which reminds me of a certain comic you just drew...

[BronzeArcher]

Um. http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?p=15974159&postcount=2

Ya know, Ive always said that if God is an invisible friend for grown-ups, then Satan is the guy who hides in your closet and will come out and get you if your bad for grown-ups

and a very proud person going by the name of "Researcher"

satan is the product of a primitive mind. it doesnt exist literally.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_sat2.htm

As you can see, he's got some great sources. And another one from the same thread,

Because these same people pick up the Bible and see God INSTRUCTING people to act in horrible ways, killing and pilaging and taking from others. So why should we act any differently??

He might be honest, but I'm not sure.

[jpholding]

J.P., tonight I found this image on the Internet:


[attachment=1]


which reminds me of a certain comic you just drew...

I don't get it. :sad: Sorry. :blush:

[Darth Executor]

As you can see, he's got some great sources. And another one from the same thread,


I just read that religioustolerance article and finally understand what Zeus felt like when he asked Hepahestus to split his head open.

[Piebald]

I don't get it. :sad: Sorry. :blush:


Here you go:


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[Cynic Sage]

Here you go:





[attachment=1] [attachment=2]



GASP!:stunned:
Now Jimbo's gonna getcha fer PLAGARISIZING another guy's WORK!:eek:





:lol:

[BronzeArcher]

I knew I should have stuck around CF's Apologetics forums...yet another (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?p=16014412&postcount=2),


Excellent point. Given that the Bible is a primary means that God chooses to disseminate his message, it seems rather an embarrassing oversight to introduce it at a point in history 1500 years before the advent of the printing press, let alone the fact that vast areas of the world didn't have any copy in their language whatsoever. Perhaps God needs to go back to school to learn how to better market his product!

:lol:

There's another ... uh ... essay ... linked to here (http://www.christianforums.com/t1708859-jesus-fact-or-fiction-fiction.html), in case the link is removed here it is (http://members.lycos.co.uk/agnostics/viewtopic.php?t=29).

------Is Jesus God?
---------->This is based on biblical evidence. Of cause the bible confirms that Jesus is part of the trinity, otherwise modern Christians would think otherwise. The view that Jesus was God wasn't however held by many early Christians. In the vote (I can't remember the name) in which early Christians decided upon the answers to many questions about there religion, the decision that Jesus was God only won by a minute majority. Surely this is prominent evidence against Jesus being God?

-----Has the Bible been changed over time?

---------->Of cause it has, even if it was unintentional. We have no copies of Genesis in its original language. In fact, we don't even know which language it was written in. There's also the fact that more books were submitted than entered the Bible. How did they choose the right ones? Maybe the most convenient ones to the hierarchy. In fact, there is some evidence to support that Jesus himself wrote his own Gospel. Finally, supposing the original authors wrote with Gods guidance, did the preliminary translators, secondary translators, and in some cases (the oldest books), third stage translators all hear from God. The translations contain opinions on how the originals should be read, as exact translations are not possible. What if they are wrong?

-----Is heaven more than wishful thinking?
---------->The longing for eternity is a primitive instinct. The brain wants the body to survive. The brain naturally trusts as teamwork is more productive that personal hunting & food making. Therefore, heaven is wishful thinking.

And we can't forget the exuberance:

JoeyCrossy: That will show 'em!!!

alan: Haha, sure will. I can't believe I wrote 3000 words!

...

Good one! The author of "darwins black box" can't ever read the theory properly that hes ment to rebbutal.

[jason]

------Is Jesus God?
---------->This is based on biblical evidence. Of cause the bible confirms that Jesus is part of the trinity, otherwise modern Christians would think otherwise. The view that Jesus was God wasn't however held by many early Christians. In the vote (I can't remember the name) in which early Christians decided upon the answers to many questions about there religion, the decision that Jesus was God only won by a minute majority. Surely this is prominent evidence against Jesus being God?
:lmbo:

Some clown has been using the Davinci Code as a source again.

What do you do with people this stupid ?

Jason

[BronzeArcher]

I'm not sure. This,

"I can't believe I wrote 3000 words!"

is remarkably funny. Maybe I should have quoted that in their 6 user forum, and linked to Scott Brown's dissertation (some guy from the University of Toronto, dissertation in 1999), which is roughly 420 pages long.

[Cynic Sage]

In the vote (I can't remember the name) in which early Christians decided upon the answers to many questions about there religion, the decision that Jesus was God only won by a minute majority.

"I can't remember the name"? Aren't you supposed to do research when you attempt to refute someone?

[Cynic Sage]

First of all, I'll have you know that I myself am conservative, and this is supposed to be about theology not politics, but this was so screwbally I couldn't pass up nominating it.

Some folks at FreeConservatives.com, reacting to a cartoon that appeared on an Arabic news site.

http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/showthread.php?t=22238&page=2&pp=20

Link here (http://www.arabnews.com/)


http://www.arabnews.com/cartoon/2005/05/13.jpg





Let the towel heads remember this elementary equation:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/DocDoom777/M2.jpg

+

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/DocDoom777/M1.jpg

=

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/DocDoom777/M3.jpg




Personally, I don't give a (bleep) about their feelings. They have none. All this brou-hah-hah is nothing but posturing. The ragheads know that if they do that, their allies and enablers, liberals, will immediately start groveling and bleating to be forgiven.



Ya know, Wyatt, those first two cartoons look awfully sophisticated and Western-centric to be drawn by any stoneage camel jockey... I wonder who this American traitor is who is drawing these and selling them to the Arab press...

Then a lurker reminds the mods of their own discussion board's rules.


Posting pornography, blatant racism, anything deemed offensive or inflammatory in your signature, offensive photographs or graphics or anything illegal will be cause for immediate banning.QUOTE]
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And your point is?


[QUOTE="markus3622"]
You're a smart guy - by any decent standards, what was posted in this thread would be classified as blatant racism and offensive. When I lurk I normally let it pass and hope it's a joke, but that took the biscuit. What was worse that no-one seemed to mind what you posted and celebrated it.


Nothing racist has appeared in this thread so far. Take your idiot Lefty "standards" somewhere else -- they don't fly here.

I posted my opinion. And BTW, Muslims are NOT a race, nor are Arabs, ergo your "argument" is, to be very kind, fatuous. And while you're at it, clueless liberal, look at the cartoons that provoked my response. If you don't find THAT offensive, then stuff your pointy leftist head up your strada chocolata and go back to sleep.


"Arabs are not a race", just like "Hebrew is not a language":lol:

[Darth Executor]

That first picture just about sums up my opinion of the CIA...

[jason]

I have to pick this comment by ilkhani'tus in this thread.

http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showpost.php?p=1058766&postcount=16

Don't xians care at all about human life? What a double standard. Thing is, why then the pretense about how horrible it is when someone's life is taken, when all you're really concerned about is WHO does the taking? Sad, that human life itself isn't taken into consideration at all here, and you people are the ones who say we don't have "a basis for morality" without your "god", when your god himself can do whatever he pleases, and not get criticized for it. He gives us rules, and doesn't even bother to follow them himself, yet he's the "superior morality"?

This is just too funny.

Jason

[ilkhani'tus]

I have to pick this comment by ilkhani'tus in this thread.

http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showpost.php?p=1058766&postcount=16

Don't xians care at all about human life? What a double standard. Thing is, why then the pretense about how horrible it is when someone's life is taken, when all you're really concerned about is WHO does the taking? Sad, that human life itself isn't taken into consideration at all here, and you people are the ones who say we don't have "a basis for morality" without your "god", when your god himself can do whatever he pleases, and not get criticized for it. He gives us rules, and doesn't even bother to follow them himself, yet he's the "superior morality"?

This is just too funny.

JasonYes, I speak up FOR human life, and you call that "funny". Anyway, I've made my points to your little hissy fit in my newest post in that thread. I've tried to answer your question about "why I think that god should be bound by the same rules as us".

Let me know if you have trouble understanding it.

[jason]

Yes, I speak up FOR human life, and you call that "funny".
What is funny is your incomprehension. That is all.

Jason

[jpholding]

DOH!

I didn't see the carrots in the guy's ears. :argh:

[anewlife]

Here is a comment from a fellow named HeathenAngel on the NBC Revelations forum.


http://boards.nbc.com/bb/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=163984&page=1&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=18&vc=1

Faith shares a more common diagnosis which is known in the psychiatric profession as schizophrenia; however, the item that differentiates the two is that faith is most often a disorder that is instilled through mental trauma at a young age (i.e.: churches, synagogues, mosques, temples, etc.) Schizophrenia is most commonly a genetic abnormality but research indicates that it can indeed stem from outside stimuli, thus bridging the gap between the two disorders. Unfortunately there is no guaranteed cure for the disease; but there is some hope for these individuals and it consists of a daily regimen of free and rational thinking. It is advised that anyone exhibiting any of the early symptoms of the disorder be treated early by an abnormally high dosage of educational material. While the success rates of such treatments still remain unpublished, the preliminary reports indicate rates at around 10-15%.

I found this rather bizarre.

[ilkhani'tus]

What is funny is your incomprehension. That is all.

JasonSure, as a person I can't understand how a sheep like you thinks. No surprise. It must take some time to be indoctrinated to be able to think the way you do...no thanks. I don't think I'd want to be able to comprehend people like you.


Laters

[Darth Executor]

Sure, as a person I can't understand how a sheep like you thinks. No surprise. It must take some time to be indoctrinated to be able to think the way you do...no thanks. I don't think I'd want to be able to comprehend people like you.


Laters

We're all sheep. Some of us go to the good sheppard. Most of us jump off a cliff into the wolf's mouth.


JP, look through this thread and take your pick. I liked the water coming through Jesus one the best.

http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showthread.php?p=1059251#post1059251

[Cynic Sage]

Sure, as a person I can't understand how a sheep like you thinks. No surprise. It must take some time to be indoctrinated to be able to think the way you do...no thanks. I don't think I'd want to be able to comprehend people like you.


Laters

Jay, Ikkers, can you two start a new thread if you are gonna bicker here, or perhaps continue your flamewar in the original thread you two were posting in?

[Darth Executor]

Ugh, I just remembered a while ago I read a couple of Christ myther posts that made my head hurt. One tried to make a vague connection between the trinity and the Egyptian pantheon and the other said the Encyclopedia Britannica was wrong about the Christ Myth movement starting 200 years ago because GNOSTICS did not believe Jesus ever existed. Pity I'm having difficulty finding it, I could've sworn I put it in my favorites.

[Darth Executor]

Mwahahahaha got it.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread34489/pg5

Some of this stupidity is amazing:



Well, that's well supported. Earlier in this thread, one mentioned Roman records of his brother James, etc. But, to protect the divinity of Jesus' birth, the idea of his mother and father having additional children in the normal fashion, simply didn't help to contribute to the wonder of the tale, so he was omitted. Funny though, that in order to use these references to support the existence of Jesus, you'd then also have to acknowledge the existence of James, hehe...


Yep, James was omitted...



Osiris = "God the Father" - Isis = "God the Mother/Holy Spirit" (Insert "Mary" the Mother of God & "Mary" the Wife of God here) - Horus = the "Son of God" (insert Jesus here). In actuality Jesus = Osiris during his Torture & Crucifixion (the Suffering & Dieing God). Then after the
Resurrection Jesus Christ = HOOR-RA - the Khemtic SUN GOD of Light & Life -who avenges the Slaying of his "Father" Osiris!


So, let's translate Egyptian Mythology into Christianity:

Mary is the Holy Spirit and conceived Jesus by herself without any aid even though God the Father was her husbant. We now have Osiris (the Father) get CRUCIFIED? Were the romans even around when the Egyptians "made up" their myths? At any rate, Set killed Osiris (who is now the father's father's son's father) which translates into the devil killing God. When was osiris(or anybody in this story for that matter) ressurected, who knows.I have no idea who Hoor-ra is, I'm assuming it's Horus who, much like Jesus, avenged his father's murder and now awaits for his father to return at the end of the world to take over... Oh wait...


Encyclopedia. Britannica says, in its discussion of the multipleextra-biblical witnesses (Tacitus, Josephus, the Talmud, etc.):"These independent accounts prove that in ancient times even the opponentsof Christianity never doubted the historicity of Jesus, which was disputedfor the first time and on inadequate grounds by several authors at the endof the 18th, during the 19th, and at the beginning of the 20th centuries."(Article on "Jesus", 1990)


False.
Doubts existed from the earliest times -


Even in the BIBLE, we have -
2 John warning of those who don't
"acknowledge the coming of Jesus Christ in the flesh".



Yep. They acknowedged that Jesus came in some way, not in the flesh, and that he did not exist at the same time. :rofl:

These are my favorites but I'm sure that the entire thread is a gold mine.

[Sparko]

Recent dialogue with Da Blonde...




Da Blonde: I'm not sure in what context you're using the term "Biblical Sexuality" there. The Bible is a poor guide for surgery and aeronautics, and just as inadequate to address sexuality.

JohnSparks: Uh, so your thinking goes like this:
Because they didnt have airplanes 2,000 years ago, they also didn't have sex 2000 years ago.

Da Blonde: No, Sir, it does not.

:lmbo:

http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showpost.php?p=1060341&postcount=38

[jason]

Recent dialogue with Da Blonde...




Da Blonde: I'm not sure in what context you're using the term "Biblical Sexuality" there. The Bible is a poor guide for surgery and aeronautics, and just as inadequate to address sexuality.

JohnSparks: Uh, so your thinking goes like this:
Because they didnt have airplanes 2,000 years ago, they also didn't have sex 2000 years ago.

Da Blonde: No, Sir, it does not.

:lmbo:

http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showpost.php?p=1060341&postcount=38
:lmbo:

[Sheepdog]

that is one of those cases where someone is oblivious to the problems in what they are saying, even when you point them out to that person. it almost makes my feel sorry for her.

almost. :wink:

[Cynic Sage]

I nominate Steve of the uber-anti-intellectual InformationGospel.net

First he starts a thread here.

http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showthread.php?t=4442&page=1

God wishes that none would perish but that all would come to repentance. God has shown love by condeming all homosexuals to eternal damnation; His righteous decree has found homosexuality to be an abomination and has in the past brought fire down on men, women and children because of it.


I would have used "God has shown his love by giving homosexuals a chance to repent of their sin."

What's even weirder is that he attaching a fire animated gif to his post.


Only that I think one must distinguish between "homosexuality" (which many define as simply being attracted to people of the same gender) and homosexual acts. Hypothetically, of course, a person could struggle with homosexual feelings and live a lifestyle of repentence as a Christian. Many people would define this person as a "Homosexual."



it clear from Scripture that no one who is a homosexual is going to enter the Kingdom. If you are homosexual, you are not a believer in Christ. The scripture absolutely condemns any such behavior, period.
" Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders..." 1 corinth 6:9

:duh:

It says "homosexual offenders" -- e.g. people who engage in homosexual activities. Being attracted to the same gender isn't an "activity".. it's just a temptation. Are you saying that someone who has homosexual feelings/temptations but does their best to steer clear of acting on them while living in repentence can't be a "True" Christian?

you show your own hatred for God's word by denying the Scriptures. Let us not play games here, God has reserved some of the hottest parets of hell for them who take the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ and turn it into laciviousness

Wow, it seems that repentance isn't enough for Steven's god.:lol:

Now this is what makes it a June screwball as opposed to a may one. Steve copies the thread to his site BUT cuts it off, so it looks like he has the last word in.

http://www.informationgospel.net/debate_on_homosexuality_as_defined_by_scripture,_and_those_w.htm

Now read what's at the top of the page:


This debate took place in May of 2003, on a discussion forum at TheologyWeb, a site which claims to debate theology seriously. The thread started by Steven was entitled: "Why God has shown love to the homosexual", located in the Christianity 201 Forum Room. Most of the people who populate the rooms of TheologyWeb have been highly educated in Christian theology via universities, seminaries and colleges of various nature, and they claim faith in Christ. But, as we found out, when it comes to the issue of homosexuality they arrogantly think that their opinionated assertions overthrow &/or reinterpret the Scriptures, all the while condemning themselves for the day of Judgment. Thus, these are the type of people who are gracing the halls of our so-called 'chrisitan' educational institiutions: lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God.



:lol:

To those at IG::tongue:

[BronzeArcher]

"Most of the people who populate the rooms of TheologyWeb have been highly educated in Christian theology via universities, seminaries and colleges of various nature"

Wow, how many Ph. Ders are there here?

[Sparko]

that was just Steven's way of puffing up the 'competition' because he thinks his edited thread is 'won' by him. What better way to increase his victory than to defeat a whole site of geniuses?

[Darth Executor]

I think RightIdea pretty much destroyed him with his question since it hit closer to home than anybody in his position would've liked. You did good too John.

[nathanLpaylor]

Hey JP,

If you (or anyone else here) is alread aware of this, then I apologise, but when reading that site penned by a wiccan named 'Pendragon' (whom you so wonderfully nailed, but I'll get to that in a sec), I came across this and thought it may be a worthy screwball quotation-

I don't want to sound puffed up (I Cor. 8:1), but... I know the Bible better than you do. No brag, just fact. I am a veteran of many "defending the faith" discussions... I once enrolled in a seminary, and actually attended classes for a while. I have spoken in tongues... I can read the Bible in Hebrew and Greek. I have memorized hundreds of Bible verses; I can still quote them and cite the chapter and verse. I have memorized Bible verses in the original languages (Hebrew and Greek). I have forgotten more Bible verses than twelve average Christians memorize in their entire lifetimes...

What I'm saying is that whatever you're going to say to me, I have probably not only heard it before, I've used that very argument, probably phrasing it better than you ever could.

Find it here (http://st09.startlogic.com/~pendrago/christianemail.html)

[Emphasis added]

I find Pendragon's boast somewhat embarrassing... but mostly amusing :teeth: However on its own it ain't too 'screwbally'- what makes it so is Holding's aforementioned beasting here- http://www.tektonics.org/parody/pendragon142.html

What do you think J.P? It may not be 'weird' but the obvious delusion I thought could qualify it as screwbally..?

Take care,

Nathan P. :lol:

[Cynic Sage]

I once enrolled in a seminary, and actually attended classes for a while.


"and actually attended classes for a while.":lol:

[nathanLpaylor]

I know! lol

I was going to highlight that... but then I thought it stood on its own ground

Nathan :teeth:

[jpholding]

What do you think J.P? It may not be 'weird' but the obvious delusion I thought could qualify it as screwbally..?


True; though in his email to me I suspected someone who was not so much deluded as misinformed. Oddly he has not written back to me after I notified him of the project I did answering his questions.

[nathanLpaylor]

I did wonder whether or not he knew at all. I only paid more attention to his site because he's been doing the rounds of amateur apologetics sites such as my own, posting in the guest book comments like (and I quote), "I've always had a few nagging doubts about the Bible...", quickly proceeding to offer the URL to his 142 questions.

I love that faux sense of curiosity. It works well for him.

Anyway. Maybe he does know, and he knows he's going down, but he's trying to take every Christian down with him?

Speculation, speculation...

[jpholding]

I did wonder whether or not he knew at all. I only paid more attention to his site because he's been doing the rounds of amateur apologetics sites such as my own, posting in the guest book comments like (and I quote), "I've always had a few nagging doubts about the Bible...", quickly proceeding to offer the URL to his 142 questions.

Follow him around posting the URL to my reply. :teeth:

[Cynic Sage]

Another interesting article from informationgospel.net

http://www.informationgospel.net/fortune_cookie.htm

I cracked open my fortune cookie at the end of lunch. It was a double-fortune, one of those where the two little slips of paper are stuck together, thus increasing the fortunate good sayings always contained therein. One slip said, “Good news will come from far away,” and the other, “You are heading in the right direction.”

Being a Christian, I do not believe in fortunes. If these two fortunes were read by a wicked, godless, man who believes in omens, portents, witchcraft, spells, wizardry, spiritualism, occultism (they are legion), he would consider this yet another good fortune of his, a hopeful reading of his future because he is convinced he is O.K. and heading in the right direction. He also hopes, as does any sane person, for good news from a far country.

I'm gonna go ask CuMhorrigan if he believes that fortune cookies speak the truth.:ahem: :lol:

[Darth Executor]

Or even better, ask LGM.

[Higon]

He is not a screwball. He is THE screwballer person ever born. I give you:

SOLLOG!!!

http://www.sollog.com/

The modern Bible is full of inaccurate translations. If you want to know what the Bible really says then read Jesus Is Not God - The Biblical Truth.

His books: http://www.1ebooks.com/sollog/

And from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sollog

Sollog prefers not to be called by his birth name, John P. Ennis, considering it an insult, and claims instead that "Sollog", "God" and "God Almighty" are his only legal names

This is Gold baby. Gold!

[Darth Executor]

He is not a screwball. He is THE screwballer person ever born. I give you:

SOLLOG!!!

http://www.sollog.com/



His books: http://www.1ebooks.com/sollog/

And from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sollog



This is Gold baby. Gold!



:lmbo::lmbo::lmbo::lmbo::lmbo::lmbo::lmbo::lmbo::lmbo::lmbo::lmbo::lmbo::lmbo::lmbo::lmbo:

[Cynic Sage]

Another nomination for Chris:

http://www.informationgospel.net/movies.htm


Recent trends in entertainment, children’s books, etc, try to show demons in a humorous light, or even in a benefactor role. “E.T.”: was especially apt at sucking people in.

"E.T."? The extra-terrestrial?


</P>

Picking a recent movie, “Men in Black II,” we see hundreds of aliens in various roles and forms. This is all humorous. One person keeps getting his head blown off. He is really goofy. It’s really funny to see his brains get splattered everywhere. The worst alien, very evil you know, assumes the form of a beautiful woman, although her real form is millions of serpent-like appendages that eat men. This is all humorous. “Monsters, Inc.” was very enlightening in that it showed that monsters were more afraid of humans and just fed off humans’ fear of them and let’s just have a little girl show us different and now we can all love each other even though we are from different dimensions. - You know, the old David and Goliath story… </P>

</P>

</P>

Is this guy being sarcastic here, cuz I'm just confused by what he's saying.</P>

</P>

</P>

What is the purpose of this entertainment? Of course, the main purpose is to make money. Movies are especially lucrative, therefore the main avenue for these portrayals of demons as benefactors. Children’s books have been loaded with sort of thing for years, buttering the children up for the big screen and computer games. Did you see dollars signs everywhere? Have you been asleep? Barney is a purple demon on Sesame Street. They started out with feathers and have wound up in scales. You protest, “Hey, Barney isn’t a demon, he’s a dinosaur!” You love ’im too, don’t you?</P>

</P>

</P>

What a grossly mis-informed innacuracy, Barney isn't on "Sesame Street".:lol: </P>

Which leads to the second purpose for this entertainment. You may feel that entertainment is entertainment and why get all scrunched up about it? That seems to be the new cry of oppression from the overstimulated, downtrodden audience. Let’s just say that some people are entertained by some pretty sick things (not you, of course). So, having dispensed with that bogus argument, let’s say that the second purpose of entertainment is to indoctrinate. Maybe this used to be the first purpose, in tribal meetings and such, but family and tribal loyalty has been thrown out in favor of money so it is a distant second.
If you think Barney is a lovable, non-offending terrycloth dinosaur, so be it. The scales are not far underneath that costume, however. He is just a spin-off from E.T. and its cousins. Demons today like to start things off as being humorous, then proceed to acceptable, then to desirable, then to exemplary. Look at the recent trend in homosexuality, for instance.

In today’s society, man’s chief purpose in life is to be entertained, and make money doing it. Demons, however, are entertained by seducing men into perversity and rebellion. But deviant and rebellious behavior is not their final goal. The devil and his demons are especially appreciative when men praise them as wonderful. Just look at the recent movies portraying aliens, monsters, and apparitions as being the good guys. Maybe this new trend started out with the Star Trek T.V. series. Who knows? Aliens and monsters and ghouls used to be terrifying: Now they are better than most humans, and if you listen to them, they may teach you how to love in the universal cosmic way. Once again, just look at the movie E.T. and its spawn, and you’ll get your proof.

On judgment day, God will present these images before their creators and before their audience. Then they will be seen in the true light. They will also see real angels and real demons. They will then find out that these “aliens” and “monsters” ideas were based in reality. The reality will testify against them that they enjoyed the presence of demons and hated the presence of God and his angels (oh, they hate God’s human servants, too). On that day, Jesus Christ will be victorious over all these fictions that held men in bondage. Don’t just Shrek this off. Demons are real and they want you to be comfortable around them and they want you to hate the living God. Be entertained by dragons if you will, but be aware that entertainment always has a secret agenda, and it may cost you more than you know.

It's surprising how inclusive the term "demon" becomes when he uses it, I wouldn't be surprised it my pet Hamster qualified.

I also find it strange that he didn't mention InuYasha or Spirited Away.

[Cynic Sage]

Or even better, ask LGM.

LGM doesn't believe in the occult.

[Darth Executor]

Oh, I assumed he assumed all godless people believe in the occult.

[Cynic Sage]

Oh, I assumed he assumed all godless people believe in the occult.

Chris, is that you?

:lol:

[Darth Executor]

Which Chris?

[Cynic Sage]

Which Chris?

I was jokingly referring to the one that wrote that "Fortune Cookie" and "Demons in Movies" articles.

[Darth Executor]

I know you were joking. Only Chris Baba popped in my head though and I couldn't figure out what he had to do with anything.

[Sparko]

Sollog prefers not to be called by his birth name, John P. Ennis, considering it an insult

Gee if my mom gave me that name I wouldn't use it either.

:shocked:

[Higon]

Gee if my mom gave me that name I wouldn't use it either.

:shocked:

Ewwwwwwwwwwww! I´ve not paid too much attention to his birth name. Poor Sollog... :b_lame:

[Darth Executor]

Actually, his name makes me think that site is either a scam or a joke.

[Cynic Sage]

Hey JP, you might want to check out this L. Ray Smith character.

http://bible-truths.com/

[Cynic Sage]

DaBlonde on Marriage in other cultures.

http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showthread.php?t=54548&page=5


The system of arraged marriages of the time was evil by our standards.

Odd, maybe. Not preferred, most likely. But "Evil"?

I don't understand exactly what she's referring to, it just pops out of nowhere in her reply to JohnSparks.

[jpholding]

Hey JP, you might want to check out this L. Ray Smith character.

http://bible-truths.com/

I did respond to him once briefly at http://www.tektonics.org/qt/tithe.html -- not much of substance to him.

[Cu Mhorrigan]

Im not feeling any love this month...So come on I had to have come up with a few GEMS.

[Cynic Sage]

CuMhorrigan, on Xtian involvement in the economy (or how he thinks it should be done):

http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showthread.php?t=55061&page=1

http://www.laweekly.com/ink/05/29/features-ireland.php (http://www.laweekly.com/ink/05/29/features-ireland.php)


Spurred on by a biblical injunction evangelicals call “The Great Commission,” and emboldened by George W. Bush’s re-election, which is perceived as a “mandate from God,” the Christian right has launched a series of boycotts and pressure campaigns aimed at corporate America — and at its sponsorship of entertainment, programs and activities the Christers don’t like.

And it’s working. Just three weeks ago, the Rev. Donald Wildmon’s American Family Association (AFA) announced it was ending its boycott of corporate giant Procter & Gamble — maker of household staples like Tide and Crest — for being pro-gay. Why? Because the AFA’s boycott (which the organization says enlisted 400,000 families) had succeeded in getting P&G to pull its millions of dollars in advertising from TV shows like Will & Grace and Queer Eye for the Straight Guy. P&G also ended its advertising in gay magazines and on gay Web sites. And a P&G executive who had been given a leave of absence to work on a successful Cincinnati, Ohio, referendum that repealed a ban on any measures protecting gays from discrimination was shown the door.

Cont'd through the link.

Nope there's no designs to create a theocracy, Fundie Christians arent out to push their religion into Our laws, Not at all.

I don't know ho he goes from the above subject to the one below, but CuMho finds a way.:teeth:

Hrm let's see, Boycott a company, cut into their profits, which inevitably brings about Lost revenues, which inevitably costs Jobs, which inevitably causes companies to leave the US for countries Like India and Mexico where Labor is cheaper, leaving a bunch of Schmucks Like me without work and unable to support our families. All because a bunch of Stupid morons cant figure out how to change a channel. Or put on a nice safe DVD or Video.
Fundies have their TV preachers, their Pax TV, their Veggie Tales, they dont need to be messing with My programs just because they are too darned Stupid to get up off their fat flabby behinds and change the television or better yet!
Go and Spend some time with your kids you know, Help them with Homework, play board games, Play some sports if the tremendous girth of your fat doesnt give you a heart attack.

It's just that simple, you can actually TURN THE TELEVISION OFF!!!

Some, good advice. Emotional, but not screwbally, but it get's better.


You're forgetting the fact that they have every right to do whatever they want within the boundaries of the law.

And CuMho's reply to Darth:

Darth,

...

I Look, I scratch Myself, aim the remote control and switch the tv to something I want to watch. Or I put in a Kung-Fu Movie, or Porn DVD, or listen to the radio, Or I go outside and enjoy the fresh Urban air.
I dont need to go out a cry and wail and Moan to some company to put off offensive programming that I dont like.
Why? because there are Stupid Mornic idiots that Like to watch benny hinn, jerry fallwell, pat robertson and others. That is their business, if they want to waste their money on a bunch of swindlers that is their business, All I have to do is turn the television off and go about my day.
And what if I personally LIKE watching will and grace? Should I have to suffer because some fat disgusting Mess of a man who insecure about his own sexuality feel threatened seeing Attractive gay men walk around and be successful lawyers?
Should I have to suffer just because parents are too darned STUPID to stop their kids from watching internet porn?
NO, I shouldnt.
Stop blaming KRAFT and everyone else, get up off your fat flabby behinds and go out and take a freaking trip, or play some board games. you know do the stuff that families did before television was invented; then Shut up and let ME HAVE MY PORN!

I thought the discussion was about the Procter&Gamble Boycott. :huh:

People refuse to buy from some companies because the company produces products with slave labor in Asia. Should people be allowed to do this or are they just forcing their morality onto the company?

People refuse to buy from some companies because the company has a horrendous environmental record. Should people be allowed to do this or are these people being selfish by forcing their morality onto a company that may now be forced to close plants in the Amazon?

People refuse to buy from some companies because the product is one they don't need. Should people be allowed to do this or do you object to the consumer imposing failure upon a company because the company doesn't produce something they need?

I tell you what, CU, you surrender your right to make a choice by buying Bibles you don't read (support your local Christian bookstore, don't be a religious bigot), copies of PlayGirl magazine (don't be a homophobe), and a cheaply built car (poorly run companies need business too) and when you get to the point where you are no longer a roaring hypocrite on this issue then I'll reread your post and see if it has any merit.


Oh PLEASE MG, you are acting like a pretentious snit. You have every right to spend your money, but when you make an organised, concerted effort to drive a company out of business, then you are no longer participating in free enterprise you are participating in economic terrorism.
Fine you want to protest companies actually doing something illegal and unethical like slave labor,. I applaud that, but when you are doing so because you are so darned insecure about your sexuality that you cant even look at two gay men without getting a six foot tall erection, then you are acting out of fear not ethics. (Plus all the blood rushing out of your brain.)
If you are so insecure about your own relationship with your wife that you cant watch Desperate housewives, then you know what turn the television off, grab your wife throw her on the bed and make sure she doesnt walk for about a week.


"Opposing something illegal and unethical like slave-labor due to insecure sexuality", eh? Because nothing is a homoerotic as working in as Chinese textile factory making Nike shoes for $2 an hour. :b_bow: :spongeb: :b_bow:

In other words, you're trying to shove your nihilistic apathetic beliefs down the throat of Americans who actually care about what happens to this country.

Try again Darthie,
More like im telling these stupid idiotic whinning little maggots that if they want to find something to blame for their little suzie showing her boobies in N'Orleans, Or His wife going after Jamal the Black Pool Cleaner, or Little Mickey starting to wear lavender and playing Naked tag with the Hair dresser, that maybe He should look at the fact that He is too busy getting all bothered by Will and grace when He has bigger problems at home.
That If they really want to Clean up america they should start with Mayor Mike and His effort to exploit WTC and a cash cow. Or the fact that He has no money to pay teachers but He has tons of money to build a stadium new yorkers dont want.
Why Not actually go after the companies that are sending our Jobs to mexico, or that employ slave labor? Or Pollute our rivers so that in 100 years there will be no clean drinking water?



...

but if you morons had your way we wouldnt be having our wiccan festivals so dont give me that pile of cow manure. You are not trying to exercise your right to free speech you are trying to censor MINE. big freaking difference. I want to watch My programs, and I dont need a bunch of wife beating, knuckle dragging, bible thumping rednecks telling me what I can and cannot watch. If you dont like what you see there is this wonderful device on your television that can actually TURN THE TELEVISION OFF OR CHANGE THE CHANNEL, just like I can when I see you idiots on television trying to tell me what God I Have to worship in order to validate your religion.
I can actually USE this button to turn off material I consider offensive. there Offensive programming all gone.
I can now put on some anime, or a Kung Fu Movie, Or some dog gone Pornography.
You can watch your veggie tales or have your kids lectured and screamed at by some sexually frustrated old man who hasnt given his wife a good shag in years.
See? technology allows you the ability to CHOSE the kind of programming you want to see, and everyone is happy. OH BUT WAIT THERE IS MORE!!!
Every week there is something that tells you what is on the different channels at different times. Now I know I have to use small words for you neanderthals so I will go slow. It's called a T. V. Guide. In fact if comes out EVERY DAY in your news papers, and even tells you if something is going to be OFFENSIVE or not.
Oh wait I forgot Red necks dont read.

What's the thread subject when CuMho trolls...
When he posts, nobody knows... :cheshire:

Remember kiddies, don't Drink and Post. :stop:

[Cu Mhorrigan]

the sad part is, I dont drink alcohol. Nor take drugs. I dont even Smoke anymore.

[Cynic Sage]

the sad part is, I dont drink alcohol. Nor take drugs. I dont even Smoke anymore.

I know, it's just that it was like you were drunk, you were all over the place.

Maybe just an inner-ear typing imbalance.:lol:

The last time someone posted drunk here, He attempted to start a kabal to rule the world, create weather control machines, and find a cure for death.

[Cu Mhorrigan]

Yeah well I loaded up on some dennis leary before comming here...Ah No Cure for cancer.

[Darth Executor]

That is sad.

[Cynic Sage]

Mhore Cu-raziness from CuMhorrigan:

http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showthread.php?t=55061&page=5&pp=16

In a reply to Mad Gerbil on how dangit, xtains and other folks shouldn't be allowed to boycot things (those meanies excercising their democratic rights). Yup, still the "Procter&Gamble boycott thread".

MG, I just got done telling you that. So it's okay for ME to turn My television off but Not for you? The point I was Making was that if you sanctimonous Hypocritical Deeply Closeted fundies already Have your Programs you worthless insignificant Vile pieces of Human Wreckage, then there is No need for you to take Mine away you anal retentive book worshipping wifebeating technologically ignorant Dolt.
What? are you so pathetic that even the off chance of you turning to SEE homosexuals is going to Make you queer? Here is a clue, If you have homosexual tendencies No television program is going to make you MORE gay.
If you are straight then you are not going to get gay by seeing gay men.
What because of your stupid and assinine cowardice I now have to fight for what I am free to pursue under our constitution? What's Next? getting rid of Big Breasted Women so we can see small chested and androgynised females whine about being "Left Below?"

"NOOOOO! Not the Boobies! Will somebody PLEASE think of the BOOBIES!":bawl:

Hello? Has History Not taught you anything?
Look at what these morons did during History? Look at what they did to EUROPE.
This is not about them Scaring Me this is about them working towards imposing their Morality on everyone else. This has to do with America becomming a THEOCRATIC NATION LIKE THE FREAKING TALIBAN WHO WE SENT OUR SLDIERS TO DEFEAT.
Look at what these Idiots are trying to do in congress, with trying to destroy the filibuster so they can ram their Conservative judges up Our rectums. Guess what dude, these Idiots are about conquest, and this country is about to become One last push towards a Christian Inquisition so they can initiate armagedon.

America initiates armageddon? It seems that CuMho has been reading the latest Hal Lindsay book.:lol:

Nothing MG has said Is going to change the mind of people who see what the fundies are doing.
He and His want us to think they are not going to make america a theocracy, If you want to drink the Kool-Aid, I am sure that they would Love to have a place for you and treat with all kinnds of warm fuzzy wishes.

No because People Like Dobson and Falwell and the rest of you Fundies are going to sweep away Our freedoms one by one Much like Hitler and the nazis did.
This example of censorship is but one in a chain of events which will give you Knuckle dragging apes control of this country.

[CuMho is posting this stuff]Mainly because he is just a troll and is enjoying being fed.


Or maybe People are scared that I know their agenda.

The irony of an obvious paranoid dellusional making that statement is thick! :lol:

It isnt paranoia if they are really after you.

Now that Proctor&Gamble no longer advertise on Will&Grace, Homosexual sympathizers will never learn about Crest Tartar Control toothpaste. Then all the Gay rights activists will die of Gingivitus and us Evil Xtains will then be able to take over the World! MUAHAHAHAHA!:grin:

[bar Jonah]

I'm definitely going to have to nominate PaulT, for his laughable and preposterous assertion that dispensationalism as a whole is completely outside the scope of Christianity, and is equivelant to the Watchtower, LDS and neo-hymenaenism (sp?).

:rilol:

No, it say’s he was looking through dispy writings, and couldn’t understand their answer; however this shouldn’t be too surprising. I’m not aware of any logical theological systems that came out of the decade of the 1830’s. One guy had golden plates given to him, the other guy scissors, neither one is worth a hoot.

In Christ,
Paul


Hang on... you're saying that dispensationalists are as apostate as the LDS church?

You sure you want to make that comparison?


R.I.,

Well let's think about this, they both divide the church, and have mislead a bunch of good folks but you know what your probably right, dispys have more in common with J.W.'s who didn't come along until later that century. I apologize to any Mormons I might have offended for my oversight. Interesting phenomena don’t you think, dispys, Mormons and JW’s all coming along within a few decades of one another, all in one way or another attacking the church.


In Christ,

Paul


I then referred to the heresies of the JWs, Mormonism and Neo-Hyms, and said they are "completely outside the scope of Christianity. Unlike dispensationalism."



Completely outside the scope of Christianity.

Unlike dispensationalism.

Wrong,

In Christ,
Paul



Paul's got some real gumption! :rilol:

[jason]

This is not about them Scaring Me this is about them working towards imposing their Morality on everyone else.
I think this is Cu the raving loonies funniest line.

Given he is seems to think that would be wrong, but he is seeking to impose his moral ideas on the christians who voted with their wallets.

Jason

[bar Jonah]

PaulT just gets better and better...

However, now that you mention it, don’t JW’s and Dispy’s both hold the following: The kingdom was preached only to the Jews, The kingdom is wholly future, Jesus taught the Kingdom awaited Christs 2nd Coming, God doesn’t use Christians to expand the kingdom, A narrow Christian mission, Satan is dominating today, Our age is evil and getting worse, A rapture of the church, The church was a secret mystery, Expectation of an ultimate Apostasy and Babylon, a future Armageddon, The end is now near, Our thoughts must be on the new world, Christ will come before His kingdom begins, Christ will rule for 1000 years, Christians are not under the law but grace, Can’t distinguish between ceremonial and moral laws, Abraham wasn’t under the Mosaic Law, The Nations aren’t under Moses Law, The New Covenant brings a new law... looks like you hold a lot in common with the JW’s, makes sense though your system was born around the same time as theirs.

Dispensationalism is wrong because it preaches that Christians are not under the law but under grace?

Thank you, PaulT! I couldn't have done you in, any better than you did yourself.

And we're also wrong for preaching that Abraham wasn't under the Mosaic Law? Am I missing something? :huh: Is PaulT's Bible in a different chronological order than mine?

And we're wrong for preaching that "The Nations aren’t under Moses Law." We should stone people who pick up sticks on Saturday morning, PaulT? Really? Cotton-polyester is a sin?


I just love it when someone does all the work for me. Work smarter, not harder; that's what I say.

[Cynic Sage]

"Who knows what evil lurks within the hearts of men, the CuMho knows..."

http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showthread.php?p=1065622#post1065622

For the love of God, why are people continuing to ARGUE with cu?

My toilet makes a better case than he does.

Because deep down inside they fear that I am right, and their denial of the web of History being woven is now being set into place by the spidery efficacy of the leaders in the church. Deep down inside you know my insanity rings with the peals of thunderous truth that frightens you.
Nissi Nirvana,
She went to a city,
Where No Spirit was Pure,
And No Ghost was Holy.
In short, Their fear makes them come to me....For I draw it with chords of truth they dare not see.

I LOVE IT when Internet Infidels go into a Comic book-Supervillian-type monologues. It's HILLARIOUS!:lol:

[Sparko]

"Who knows what evil lurks within the hearts of men, the CuMho knows..."

http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showthread.php?p=1065622#post1065622





I LOVE IT when Internet Infidels go into a Comic book-Supervillian-type monologues. It's HILLARIOUS!:lol:


Gee he forgot the:


:maniac:

Mwaahahahahahahahahahaha.

[Darth Executor]

"Who knows what evil lurks within the hearts of men, the CuMho knows..."

http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showthread.php?p=1065622#post1065622





I LOVE IT when Internet Infidels go into a Comic book-Supervillian-type monologues. It's HILLARIOUS!:lol:


Wait until you see the flash movie I'm making. :wink:

[Sheepdog]

Wait until you see the flash movie I'm making. :wink:

dude, you are seriously making a flash movie? oh heck :cool:

[Darth Executor]

dude, you are seriously making a flash movie? oh heck :cool:

Yup. Provided this $%*^&# heat dies down and I can concentrate on it. If I like the way the first one comes out, I'll even make a second. You can expect to see JP facing LGM, Farrell Till and Jimbo in the first one.

[jpholding]

Yup. Provided this $%*^&# heat dies down and I can concentrate on it. If I like the way the first one comes out, I'll even make a second. You can expect to see JP facing LGM, Farrell Till and Jimbo in the first one.

If you don't mind waiting until a little later, say after the 19th, I will have something you can use as a model for me. :teeth:

[Cu Mhorrigan]

But what about Me?
What I get No Love?

[jpholding]

But what about Me?
What I get No Love?

Huh?

You want a toon made on you, or what? I can't do one on you until you have I have debated something, Cu, because I'd need personal debate experience to get the ideas flowing.

[Cynic Sage]

But what about Me?
What I get No Love?

I guess we can take a sprite of the black mage from 8-bit theater and recolor it red.

[Darth Executor]

If you don't mind waiting until a little later, say after the 19th, I will have something you can use as a model for me. :teeth:

Hmm. I was planning on ripping off Tyrael(see attached) for your model but sure, I can wait. That, or do the sections that don't require your presence. Just so you know, I might add stuff to your model as I see fit. :teeth:

[Darth Executor]

But what about Me?
What I get No Love?

There are two spots to fill in after dan barker in the second one(provided I do it). You and justin might make a cameo in that one.

[jpholding]

Hmm. I was planning on ripping off Tyrael(see attached) for your model

Oh heck! That's even better, because my anthrpomorphic style isn't anywhere near as suitable. Never mind. :teeth: Proceed, please, at your discretion!

[Darth Executor]

btw, do you mind if I use models similar to the ones in your comics for Till and LGM?

[Darth Executor]

Oh and just so there's no misunderstanding, the models in those pics are done by professionals. Don't expect that kind of quality from me. :lol:

[jpholding]

btw, do you mind if I use models similar to the ones in your comics for Till and LGM?

Absolutely not. Use as you please from them. :thumb:

[Cynic Sage]

Oh heck! That's even better, because my anthrpomorphic style isn't anywhere near as suitable. Never mind. :teeth: Proceed, please, at your discretion!

JP's a Furry?

[Cynic Sage]

More of Steven and his "Re-pen-tunt Queers ain't goin' to Heavun." In a more recent thread.

http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showthread.php?t=54918&page=1&pp=16

And here's a link to his new site.

http://www.gospelbasics.net/

[Darth Executor]

JP's a Furry?

:twitch:

:whack:

[Cynic Sage]

More Chris Simonson, from his Blog.

http://www.gospelbasics.net/information_blog.htm


Only bad witches are ugly

“Only bad witches are ugly.” This in response to Dorothy’s, “I thought all witches were ugly!” Dorothy had it wrong. She thought that witches were all bad (this part is right), but that they were therefore all ugly. The good witch in the Wizard of Oz doesn’t look bad to us or Dorothy. She is so sweet and lovely. She is ten times better than Billy Graham even. She never stops smiling or sounding or looking like a beautiful, sweet, young grandma. So, there must be good witches and good-looking ones. Proof of this is that since the Wizard of Oz came out, there has been a proliferation of good witches, starting with the hippie movement and its free love message. Now, the churches have to look better and love more than these good-looking witches. The church’s message has to be souped-up and tuned in to the demonic harmony so espoused by the new and loving citizens of the world. Actually, this is not the true church, just a continuation of the false church. “Only false churches are ugly,” I heard a Casual Chapelite say...
Chris Simonson 6/02/2005

:lol:

[jpholding]

JP's a Furry?

A fan of them, at any rate, and a drawer of them as well.

[Darth Executor]

I nominate Pythagoras for his thought provoking proof that Jesus isn't God:

http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showthread.php?p=1066995#post1066995



Thanks for finally admitting the obvious. In the NT, Jesus never said he was God.

I rest my case.

[Darth Executor]

A fan of them, at any rate, and a drawer of them as well.

Ahem, JP do you know what a furry is?

[Sparko]

heheh. I nominate JP Holding for screwball of the month...

[about Furries]
A fan of them, at any rate, and a drawer of them as well.

[Cynic Sage]

A fan of them, at any rate, and a drawer of them as well.

That's the definition I use (I draw myself as a Fox with sunglasses).

And you guys are sick, there's a different word that describes what you're thinking about.:eek::eww:

[Piebald]

:flip: *yiff* :flip:

[Darth Executor]

That's the definition I use (I draw myself as a Fox with sunglasses).

And you guys are sick, there's a different word that describes what you're thinking about.:eek::eww:

No, furry is that word.

[Piebald]

Read all about Furries:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Furry


The term "furry" originally came into existance at a sci-fi convention (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention) in the late 1970s. Then, the term was used to describe one specific genre of fantasy art (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fantasy_art&action=edit). As these "furry fans" became more organized, they began using e-mail and MUCKs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MUCK) to communicate. Notably, one of the oldest and largest mucks in existance is FurryMUCK (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FurryMUCK).

[Sparko]

Read all about Furries:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Furry


go here instead for what we are laughing about:

http://pressedfur.coolfreepages.com/press/vanityfair/

[Piebald]

Yes, those are furries.. and that is a furcon. Dante wrote of them.

Turn your back and keep your eyes shut tight;
for should the Furry come and you look at it
never again would you return to the light

[Cynic Sage]

go here instead for what we are laughing about:

http://pressedfur.coolfreepages.com/press/vanityfair/

A) The nuts always congregate at conventions.

B) No, I don't have a costume, I once had a fox mask I bought at a Japanese fair, but I lost it. I don't think I'd ever blow any cash of mine on a costume.

C) Yiff is wrong!

D) I draw furries (My favorite ones to draw are from the Sonic and Starfox games) cuz, y'know, their cool.

E) Yiff is wrong!

F) I think foxes are cool, so usually, when I draw myself, I portray myself as a fox.

G) Yiff is wrong!

H) Yiff is wrong!

If anyone is to blame for this. I point the finger at Sega and Nintendo, as well as that sicko, C.S. Lewis.:ahem:

[Sparko]

A) The nuts always congregate at conventions.

B) No, I don't have a costume, I once had a fox mask I bought at a Japanese fair, but I lost it. I don't think I'd ever blow any cash of mine on a costume.

C) Yiff is wrong!

D) I draw furries (My favorite ones to draw are from the Sonic and Starfox games) cuz, y'know, their cool.

E) Yiff is wrong!

F) I think foxes are cool, so usually, when I draw myself, I portray myself as a fox.

G) Yiff is wrong!

H) Yiff is wrong!

If anyone is to blame for this. I point the finger at Sega and Nintendo, as well as that sicko, C.S. Lewis.:ahem:

Methinks thou doth protest too much.

[Cynic Sage]

Methinks thou doth protest too much.

Could be worse,:sigh: some of my friends learned about Furries from an episode of CSI that involved a murder at a furry-convention. They thought I was some sort of sick freak the next few weeks.

BTW: My old fox-mask resembled the one in this picture.

[Cynic Sage]

Dobbie, the Tweb house troll. Proclaiming victory a little-too-soon:

http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showthread.php?t=55139

In another thread, when discussing the horrific massacres by the Israelites upon other OT peoples, Darth Executor offers this defense of *actively* killing women and children (i.e., non-combatants)

And would you prefer having the children starve to death instead of a quick death?

And would you prefer having the children starve to death instead of a quick death?

That is, because the children *might* die in a painful way, it is preferable to kill them. Note that we are here talking about *active* and intentional killing.

In a recent thread in PoliSci, there has been nothing but disgust and outrage (by Christians) towards the idea that some extremely premature babies should be allowed with less than the most extreme measures taken when it is clear that there is a near-zero chance of saving them, with the few that survive likely to have extreme handicap... It was even called murder to *passively* allow a death in that thread. For example, Mountain Man says the following

If if there is any chance of saving a human life then it is unconscionable and immoral to not even try. Any doctor who turns his back on a patient who has even a 5% chance of being saved is a murderer.

Do you see why us non-believers are so confused now? What is the real message from Christian morality, then? Is it wrong to kill / allow to die if we are saving someone from a worse fate? How can a passive lack of action be 'murder' but actively killing someone be 'mercy'?

There is no "might" in my example. They would have certainly died. Frankly, I have no problem with mercy killing if there is nothing that can be done. I do have a problem with our society using it so liberally though.

Excellent... so now we are getting somewhere.

Would they really have *certainly died*, or *probably* died? Christian thinktank thinks it is the latter "There were no ‘social relief’ institutions in this world [only the largest of empires could afford to take in destitute women and children as temple ‘personnel’—see OT:CANE:445], and the land in which this event occurred was depopulated .(“Those who were able to flee from their conquerors often died of exposure, starvation, or thirst” [OT:DLAM:237]) " from http://www.christian-thinktank.com/midian.html (http://www.christian-thinktank.com/midian.html)

"often" == probably, not certainly... not 100%. Don't you think 95% qualifies as often, DE?

So now I'm still confuse on why you object to the UK doctors... if the babies 'often', or even 'almost certainly' die and/or suffer severe handicaps, what is the problem? There remains a clear example where, when children (actually born ones, not fake ones) would suffer death and/or severe handicaps and *ACTIVELY* killing them is justified. So how do you explain away this clear error in your bible?

The doctors in the UK helping the babies out wouldn't plunge the UK down to poverty level...

So I win (by virtue of you failing to respond to my arguments on this issue)... Thanks for playing.

I will be sure to point out to others that you support babykilling.

Of course, that would put you in good company.

What "arguments" did I fail to respond to? And where do I support babykilling?

I pointed out that other top apologists have supported babykilling when people would "often" (his word, not mine) die of starvation.

You did not respond, but instead, tried to change the subject.

I can only interpret this as an admission that my argument was forceful.

What do I care about other apologist's personal opinion? I disagree with a lot of them on many issues and if that is the case here then I disagree here too. I don't feel the need to defend their point of view. If you want to know Miller's send him the article then ask him his opinion. I'm not Miller and I don't speak for him. In addition, you have failed to show how the biblical instance of killing children and the british babies have anything to do with each other. You instead picked a few small parts from each argument and twisted it to make a point that does not exist.

Again, so you support babykilling when the odds are severly against the baby.

Thanks for playing.

Wrong. I don't support baby killing at all. I tolerate it if there is no other way.

Dobbie: "Dangit! You two are xtians, you're supposed to think the same." :rant:

Not to mention that Dobbie mentions Glenn Miller's note of lack of "social-relief" institutions, then claims that Darth is changing the subject when he mentions that "The doctors in the UK helping the babies out wouldn't plunge the UK down to poverty level...":lol:

[Cynic Sage]

Wait, more from Dobbie in that same thread:

http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showthread.php?t=55139&page=1&pp=16

You are missing the point.

I am not claiming that the Jews should have taken on the children/tight women/young boys (in swedish tradition).

I am saying that, had they been allowed to live, they *might* have been able to survive on their own.

Answer me this... could a Navy SEAL have been able to survive in those conditions on his own?

:lmbo: Surely if a puny little Navy SEAL can survive in the desert without food and water, then surely those big, macho-tough, children would EASILY survive in the desert w/out food and water. :rofl:

[Piebald]

No Sense of Irony



http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=127578


I have a hatred towards Christianity that is unmatched by anything. This religion is absolutely ridiculous. Just typing about it is getting me angry.
I can't stand to see my friends fall victum to this disease. Even though she dumped me for this terrible disease called Christianity, I still have feelings for her. I want to save her from this Thing.



Inform your friends that "Christian Nazi" is redundant.



Christianity is horrible, to me it is indistinguishable from a mental disease


The Drumroll Please!


My advise for you is that you need to forget about her ASAP. You cannot deconvert her because she would know your motive really fast. If you want her to be deconverted, it has to be done by a 3rd person, someone she actually trusts. Non-Christians are looked at as evil and filthy.


As opposed to being mentally diseased Nazis posessed by a Thing. . .

[Darth Executor]

Find a nice girl who doesn't care about her faith as much as she cares about orgasms.

...

-_-

[Piebald]

Behold!

http://valleyadvocate.com/gbase/News/content?oid=oid:111385


We need people to stand up in public against the Christo-Islamic alliance's assaults on relativism. It's been more than a generation since anyone with access to a significant pulpit stood up for relativism. The clerics have made "relativism' into a dirty word instead of what it actually is: a term for the application of reason to public affairs. Turn your back on relativism and you get absolutism. Show me a true believer and I'll show you a bigot. Absolutism is at the heart of every religion -- our dogma or nothing.

. . . which wouldn't be a statement of absolutes, right? Because only Sith think in absolutes.

[jason]

We need people to stand up in public against the Christo-Islamic alliance's assaults on relativism
:huh:

The christo-islamic alliance ?

Does this wacko know how hard it is to get christians to agree on anything ?

Let alone christians and muslims ?

the only sort that agree are those that buy into the drivel he is peddling.

Jason

[Cynic Sage]

Find a nice girl who doesn't care about her faith as much as she cares about orgasms.
...
-_-

Who said that?

[Cynic Sage]

Nervermind Darth, I found it myself.

http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=127578

So you care about her? sorry. You will get dumped many times in your life, for many reasons, most of them stupid. Religion's just one. I just got dumped for saying "Uh huh" one too many times. If she cares more about the invisible man who lives in the sky than she cares about you, she's not for you. Find a nice girl who doesn't care about her faith as much as she cares about orgasms.


That was just HILLARIOUS!:rofl:

[Sparko]

This has got to be the funniest wacky post I have read in a long time:

Zipperhead: My point is that if you say, for instance, that Jesus sold hotdogs, you're no longer talking about the same Jesus, so you have the wrong Trinity, because you lie about the 2nd person.
http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showpost.php?p=1067828&postcount=89

eh???

[Cynic Sage]

They'd have to be kosher hotdogs. :wink:

[bar Jonah]

Yes, with bacon and cheese. What I like to call a Dispy Dog. :rithumb:

Yummy!

[Cynic Sage]

I nominate DaBlonde, on the her doctrine of the infallability of liberal xtians.

What is your authority, DB?

That of a woman freeborn who has sworn upon the Altar of Almighty God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the minds of humankind.

So where does God come into play as far as authority in your life, DB? Does what God say come in above or below this sworn hostility of yours?

He ordains it.

Go DaBlonde! Go! For the Good of the City.:lol:

[Sparko]

Lol

[TuckEverlasting]

What is this obsessive concern with truth and falsehood that Christians seem to have in spades? Everything is "true", from some perspective, just as everything is false from another.

Not really funny, but really scary. :shocked:

link (http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showpost.php?p=1069499&postcount=213)

[bar Jonah]

Not really funny, but really scary. :shocked:

link (http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showpost.php?p=1069499&postcount=213)
Therefore, Tmancour is one of those fun folks who must agree that he doesn't necessarily exist!

:rithumb:

[TuckEverlasting]

Therefore, Tmancour is one of those fun folks who must agree that he doesn't necessarily exist!

:rithumb:

Yeah, actually, it had crossed my mind to ask him. Actually, I still may do that! :hrm:

[Cynic Sage]

Cu Mhorrigan, for his discriminating taste for scholarly sources of information.

http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showthread.php?t=55249&page=2&pp=16

One of the things I was taught about magic, (And this is via a comic book,) is that Magic responds to need.

:lol:

[bar Jonah]

Howabout where Cu was telling us that Dr. Laura is wrong wrong wrong for judging others, and we're wrong if we defend her... because, you see, a person has no right to judge others publically unless they are "morally spotless" and "spiritually perfect."

Uhm.... Cu? :rilol:

[Cynic Sage]

Howabout where Cu was telling us that Dr. Laura is wrong wrong wrong for judging others, and we're wrong if we defend her... because, you see, a person has no right to judge others publically unless they are "morally spotless" and "spiritually perfect."

Uhm.... Cu? :rilol:

What thread was that?

[bar Jonah]

What thread was that?

The Censorship (http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showthread.php?t=55306&goto=newpost) thread. :rilol:

[jpholding]

Jason Long is back and won hisself another award.

Choice sample (he picked just 10 items to reply to out of all that):

I noted, Long seems to have a peculiar definition of "genocide". He says that Sodom and Gomorrah was a "genocidal operation" but "genocide" means, "deliberate and systematic destruction of a racial, political, or cultural group," and since Sodom and Gomorrah were not any of these things, it is clear that Long doesn't know how to use the word, other than for rhetorical effect. Long embarks on a skein of excuses for why his use of "genocide" is actually OK; but all of the dictionaries he appeals to offer the same definition as the one I did; Long apparently does not understand the collective use of "people". But Long persists and analyzes each part of the definition I gave in turn. Let's save him so much needed study time: In particular, he is wrong on the point of "racial, political, or cultural group." There is no evidence, and it would be very peculiar to suggest, that Sodom and Gomorrah were home to a distinct racial, political or cultural group that did not exist elsewhere. Cities would be far too small to house such a group in full, and it would be absurd, and require a substantial burden of proof, to suggest that there was some group that was small enough to fit into two cities. So we skip over Long's defensses of "deliberate" and "systematic" (those words could describe exceution of criminals as well) to what he rightly sees as the point of dispute -- and the defense is itself laughable:

How would Holding justify the notion that neither of two distinct cities has its own unique culture? Culture, after all, is the set of patterns, traits, and products considered as the expression of a particular period, class, community, or population. Does every city not have its own unique culture? Does Holding believe that there was nothing special about Sodom and Gomorrah that could not be found anywhere else?

The strain required here to batter the word "cultural" into submission is a patent absurdity. Long has now turned the killing of even a single person into "genocide" by this wacky reasoning! After all, every person has their own unique "patterns, traits, and products" (ie, we each have our own sets of fingerprints -- or maybe you can NOT commit genocide by killing only one in a pair of identical twins!). No, Long simply made a tremendous bungle in his use of the word "genocide" and is now trying to stretch the dictionary to make it fit his misuse.

[Darth Executor]

Rarely do I see so much stupidity in so little time:

Thread Title: Is artificial insemination against God's Law?

The Christian God, that is. Of course "Thou shall not commit adultery." is a no no, but what about a girl getting pregnant from someone other than her spouse via artificial insemination? God himself got Mary pregnant without having sex, so I think it's justifiable for another man to get a woman pregnant without having sex.



thou shalt follow me, and in the process become a mindless follower of an articifial religion created only to bring comfort to the cold people in the middle ages.

[Darth Executor]

Man these guys are obsessed:

http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=127864

Who the heck dreams about opposing religious views?

[Higon]

I often joke that I could debate religion in my sleep, since I've been doing it for so long, and since my arguments are basically automatic at this point. Well, it turned out a few weeks ago that I literally debated religion in my sleep. I found myself in a fundamentalist Sunday school. The kids looked to be in 11th or 12th grade, and the preacher was giving them some kind of bullshit Bible lesson. In the middle of it, I interrupted him, and triumphantly gave a proof for the certain non-existence of his god, at which point all jaws in the room fell wide open. Then I woke up.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! She "triumphantly gave a proof for the certain non-existence of his god, at which point all jaws in the room fell wide open". Aaaaaaaah bet she does, I bet she does, say no more, say no more, nowwhatahmean, nudge nudge?

What if you dream about debating religion and lose the debate?

[jpholding]

Memo to self -- award for Minnesota, at least he behaves the same in Poli Sci as he does in Apologetics....

[Cynic Sage]

Man these guys are obsessed:

http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=127864

Who the heck dreams about opposing religious views?

:lmbo: Dude, that a Screwball GOLD MINE!!! :rofl:


I had a very bad nightmare last night involving the Mormons, about whom I know very little (something about funny underwear is the limit of my knowledge). I dreamt I was in Salt Lake City visiting one of their temples and, before I knew it, I was in the thick of their religious ceremony. Big organ with a choir. Lots of well-dressed people praying and chanting and what-not. There was a call to prayer and everyone starting humming the same note (except for me), yelling that god was speaking to them and going into convulsions. Then someone spotted me as the atheist in the crowd. Luckily, I woke up at that point.
I had never even given Mormons a passing thought. Perhaps reading these message boards for the past couple of months has planted a morbid fear of Mormons in my mind. So a question to IIDBers: has anyone else had a religious nightmare?


I had a dream last night where I got kidnapped by priestesses' of a hindu sex cult.

It was pretty great.



And Higon, you forgot the funniest part of Stacey Melissa's post:

I often joke that I could debate religion in my sleep, since I've been doing it for so long, and since my arguments are basically automatic at this point. Well, it turned out a few weeks ago that I literally debated religion in my sleep. I found myself in a fundamentalist Sunday school. The kids looked to be in 11th or 12th grade, and the preacher was giving them some kind of bullshit Bible lesson. In the middle of it, I interrupted him, and triumphantly gave a proof for the certain non-existence of his god, at which point all jaws in the room fell wide open. Then I woke up.

Well, I'm rather tired now, so I think I'll see if I can dream up some more theological debates. http://www.iidb.org/ubb/biggrin.gif


I had a Catholic nightmare last night! (though I agree, ‘Mormon Nightmare’ would be a better band name)
Anyway, with mine I went to a Catholic church for fun. They called my name to come to the front of the church, then proudly proclaimed I was a new member about to take my first communion. I got pissed and tried to tell them I wasn’t baptized, much less a Catholic, so they let me sit down. Then they started passing out assorted pieces of cake and neat bottles of flavored water and they wouldn’t let me have any http://www.iidb.org/ubb/frown.gif It was so awkward.

I’ve also had a Heaven nightmare (long time ago, but one of my favorites). I went to heaven and I was soooo bored! There was nothing to do but watch DVDs. The angels felt bad and kept bringing by a snack cart with really dry cookies on it to try to cheer me up, but it just really sucked. I kept asking to go back to purgatory, but they wouldn’t let me http://www.iidb.org/ubb/frown.gif


This next one was just more disturbing than anything.

I just had a Pagan/Cthulu dream, but it wasn't a nightmare. (though it did feature a really hot woman getting her throat cut and pulled down into the depths as a sacrifice http://www.iidb.org/ubb/frown.gif )

:shock:

[Cynic Sage]

More from this Stacey Melissa character.

http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=127477[/url]

Would you lie to promote atheism? Have you ever faked a viewpoint just to get others to believe you, so you could later slip in some self-promoting thing?


Yes, I do [url="http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?p=2449546#post2449546"]pose as a Christian (http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=127477) on Christian message boards in order to get around the prejudice they have against atheists. I don't think there's anything wrong with doing that.



But wait, there's more :teeth:

I lie all the time, though never about anything truly important. Telling lies convincingly can be a bit of a sport. See how fantastic a claim you can make somebody actually believe. The only real problem is that you need to avoid becoming a known liar. So its a very fine balancing act.

And here you are, telling us this, straight up. http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0304/aetsch/cheeky-smiley-025.gif

As Bart Simpson would say "The ironing is delicious".:lol:

[Cynic Sage]

This is the website that inspired Landover Baptist Church.
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/

Just look at their material on DCtalk (an old, xtian group).

http://www.jesus-is-lord.com/dctalk.htm

As well as rock music in general.
http://www.av1611.org/question/cqdevila.html

Didn't Charles Wesley say 'Why Should the Devil Have All the Good Music'?"
"NO".
"Then it was Martin Luther."
"NO. It wasn't Martin Luther."
"Then it must have been General William Booth."
"NO."
"Hummh … Then, it was John Newton."
"NO."
"Oh. I know. It was Isaac Watts."
"NO. It wasn't Isaac."
"Well, who said, 'Why Should the Devil Have All the Good Music'?"
Larry Norman and the CCMers!

In order to justify their disobedience to the Word of God and their love for rock music, CCMers claim everyone from Martin Luther; to General William Booth; to John Newton made the infamous statement "Why Should the Devil Have All the Good Music?".

Stuff on Christain Music artists (http://www.av1611.org/crock.html).

Michael W. Smith (http://www.av1611.org/msmith1.html)
Amy Grant (http://www.av1611.org/amysalut.html)
Carman (http://www.av1611.org/carman1.html) (Why are these folks bothered by the Apostles being depicted as Black?)

And let's not forget SATAN'S FAVORITE BIBLE VERSE! (http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Doctrines/Baptismal%20Regeneration/acts_2-38.htm)

and let's not forget that SPIDERMAN IS A SATANIST! (http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Wicca%20&%20Witchcraft/signs_of_satan.htm) (you'll have to scroll down a bit) I like it how at the bottom of the page, they brag about being in the "top 1000" of xtian sites.

And yes, they are also KJV onlyists (http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Bible/new_international_perversion.htm).

Oy Vey.:ahem:

[Cynic Sage]

Wait, there even more from that site.

Hell discovered by Communist Drillers. (http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Basics/sounds_from_hell.htm)

Harry Potter is evil. (http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/Hellivision/harry_potter_is_evil.htm)


Children can actually enroll into the Hogwart's School of Witchcraft (http://www.expage.com/enrollhkb).



Here's another Hogwart's Witchcraft school (http://www.harrypotterextras.net/) where children are taught divination, charms, and potions. This site is maintained by a 15-year old Canadian girl (just one of millions of young Satanist's being groomed to prepare the stage for the coming antichrist.

The funny thing is that those links simply lead to Harry Potter Fansites.



Bible Dictionaries and Lexicons are evil too:

http://www.jesus-is-lord.com/goliath2.htm

NIV Says "David Didn't Kill Goliath"!</FONT>

...




So the writer said,"...the Bible... has a Comprehensive Bible Dictionary in the back and it gives the definition of Goliath as [a giant]... In 2 Sam. xxi. 19, we find that ANOTHER Goliath of Gath was slain by Elhannan, also a Bethlehemite."So the writer's correction was based on the Bible dictionary and not the Bible. The writer's King James text says Elhanan slew the BROTHER of Goliath, but her dictionary said that Elhanan slew Goliath. So I wrote:



"...I believe that you need to go back and determine if you believe the Bible text or your study guide because the two conflict, no?"

The Bible MUST always take precedence! Commentaries are written by men who can twist and wrest with the scripture. That is why I usually shun commentaries and NEVER take the commentator's word over the scripture. Commentaries can be helpful in terms of dates but they have messed a lot of people up. THE BIBLE IS THE ONLY AUTHORITY. NOTHING SHOULD BE EXALTED ABOVE IT. When I say "the Bible," I mean the Authorized King James of 1611, of course. Interesting how the writer's Bible dictionary agreed with the NIV...

And even more good ol' KJV onlyism:

http://www.jesus-is-lord.com/emascula.htm


The marketing guys at IBS, publisher of the NIV, say that the NIV is easier to read, right? In the scripture comparison that we're about to examine we will find the word "emasculate" in the NIV. I didn't know what this word meant until today. It incorrectly replaces the phrase "cut off" in the authorized King James Bible. Excuse me, I'm jumping ahead of myself...



Our scripture passage is Galatians 5:12. The context: the apostle Paul is speaking to the Galatians concerning false doctrine brought in by a troublemaker (ref v. 10). What did the Apostle Paul want to happen to this person?The Authorized King James:


Galatians 5:12, I would they were even cut off which trouble you. (troublemakers, begone)

Now, the New International Version: Galatians 5:12, As for those agitators, I wish they would go the whole way and emasculate themselves! (troublemakers, cut your genitals off!)


Which one do you think the great apostle Paul said? Is wishing someone would cut off their genitals consistent with a godly, sold-out Christian like Paul? What a terrifying, bloody, horrible thing to say to someone. But you never know what you're going to get with the NIV--I almost couldn't believe this one. Last note: the NASB and the RSV say that the troublemakers should "mutilate themselves"!!!!
I wish this guy went the whole way and emasculated his typing fingers. :lmbo:

[Cynic Sage]

This actually explains alot about how a guy can make a site like that.

Psychiatry is Evil! (http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Health_Concerns/psychiatry_is_evil.htm)

:rofl:

[Darth Executor]

Psychiatry isn't evil. It is useless though.

[Cynic Sage]

Psychiatry isn't evil. It is useless though.

What?

[Darth Executor]

Most psychiatrists I meet are complete doo doo heads. They couldn't help somebody with their mental problems if the world depended on it.

[Sparko]

Da Blonde says she is a therapist. case closed.

[Cynic Sage]

Most psychiatrists I meet are complete doo doo heads. They couldn't help somebody with their mental problems if the world depended on it.

I've come across good psychiatric counselors, so I'd have to disagree.

Da Blonde says she is a therapist. case closed.

And Jack Chick is a comics artist, does that mean Osamu Tezuka was a cheap hack who churned out Buddhist propoganda tracts.

And JP, I nominate Darth Executor and JohnSparks for their comments here.:teeth: <j/k>

[Darth Executor]

I've come across good psychiatric counselors, so I'd have to disagree.

I tricked one into thinking he sucessfully hypnotised me. :teeth:

[Cynic Sage]

I tricked one into thinking he sucessfully hypnotised me. :teeth:

"When I snap my fingers, you will wake up and no longer think you are a Sith Lord."

[Cynic Sage]

This is rather old, so I don't think it will qualify for Screwball of the Month. But it was so funny I have to show it to you guys anyways.

The OneAndOnly on Xtians and TV Guide.

http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showthread.php?t=46073&page=2&pp=16



Leviticus 19:26 (New International Version)
New International Version (NIV)

26 " 'Do not eat any meat with the blood still in it.

" 'Do not practice divination or sorcery.

Definition of divination:

Divination: is a "foretelling future events, or discovering things secret by the aid of superior beings, or other than human means."

http://www.reference-guides.com/smiths_bible_dictionary/Divination/ (http://www.reference-guides.com/smiths_bible_dictionary/Divination/)

Therefore TV guides are a form of divination and should be prohibited under Mosaic law, and probably some NT rules as well.

I can't believe we missed this guy for Feb's Screwball award.

[Darth Executor]

Umm, how the heck is divination "fortelling future events"? I guess they should lock up all the prophets too.

[jpholding]

Before I forget, an award to a church in my area that had this sign posted:

DOWNLOAD YOUR SORROWS -- GET ONLINE WITH GOD

Someone at the church obviously isn't up on Net lingo. :hmph:

[Piebald]

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[Cynic Sage]

Before I forget, an award to a church in my area that had this sign posted:

DOWNLOAD YOUR SORROWS -- GET ONLINE WITH GOD

Someone at the church obviously isn't up on Net lingo. :hmph:

You think that's funny, you gotta check out this (http://www.ship-of-fools.com/Signs/index.html).

[Darth Executor]

I have access to the accumulated knowledge of science that is based on the empirical scientific method, and yet I have humility because I don’t claim to have any “ultimate, absolute truth”, because I know that new discoveries can always refine, or falsify, our current knowledge.

:rofl:

[Cynic Sage]

Remember the source. :bonk:

[Cynic Sage]

I was at this funny website, where this guy, he reads yahoo user reviews for Movies and he posts the real funny ones on his site. Anyway, when I was there, I found this.

http://www.enduringvision.com/archives/yahoo2.htm


POLAR TRAIN MORE LIKE POLAR TRAINWRECK
by fordtruckgirl4jesus (movies profile) Nov 10, 2004
5 of 18 people found this review helpful

You may think you want to see a movie about the polar train but do you really want to see a lot of satanist propaganda? Well the makers of this film clearly only care about SHOCK VALUE and the ALMIGHTY DOLLAR. But then what else can you expect from the depraved minds in hollywood and their "friends" in the liberal media. TO REITERATE :THIS FILM IS PURE FILTH. Don't listen to the hollywood liberals who want you to watch this.



The funny thing was that she was reviewing the children' Christmas movie "The Polar Express".:lol:

[Cynic Sage]

Darth Exexutor, on a not-so-well-known other Miracle of Jesus.

http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showthread.php?p=1081351#post1081351

We are not Jesus. We don't have the power to paralyze a criminal and use a level 10 telekinetic blast to push him away from his victim so we blow his brains out if he doesn't listen. The Israelis can't rain food from the sky to feed those people so they killed them before the desert did.

:rofl: "Level 10 telekinetic blast". :rofl:

Why is it I seem to be nominating more brothers this month than others?

[Cynic Sage]

TLM showed me this. A nomination for whoever wrote this guy's obituary.

http://www.tucson.com/classified/index.php?action=view_obit&ticket_id=0003881983-01802


Corwyn (Cory) William Zimbleman Tucson, AZ (formerly of Champaign, IL)

Age 53. Born April 18, 1952 to the late Willard and Gilda (Ebert) Zimbleman, died June 10, 2005. Throughout his life Cory was an extraordinary artist... Another of his passions was herpetology. As a child he was always bringing home reptiles. His friends nicknamed him "Snake." He even built a turtle pond in his backyard. An avid atheist, he studied the bible and religion with more fervor than most Christians. He had strong political opinions and followed Amy Goodman's radio broadcast "Democracy Now." Alas the stolen election of 2000 and living with right-winged Americans finally brought him to his early demise. Stress from living in this unjust country brought about several heart attacks rendering him disabled. Cory, a great man, so very talented, compassionate and intelligent, dedicated to the arts and humanities and the environment, will be greatly missed by his wife, family, and friends...

This guy died because Bush got elected and he lived near "right-winged" Americans.

Man, they should put warning labels on those "right-winged" Americans.:ahem:

[Darth Executor]

Darth Exexutor, on a not-so-well-known other Miracle of Jesus.

http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showthread.php?p=1081351#post1081351



:rofl: "Level 10 telekinetic blast". :rofl:

Why is it I seem to be nominating more brothers this month than others?

Actually that's 100% scriptural:

John 18:5 They answered him, "Jesus of Nazareth." Jesus said to them, "I am he." Judas, who betrayed him, was standing with them.
John 18:6 When Jesus said to them, "I am he," they drew back and fell to the ground.

[Cynic Sage]

Actually that's 100% scriptural:

John 18:5 They answered him, "Jesus of Nazareth." Jesus said to them, "I am he." Judas, who betrayed him, was standing with them.
John 18:6 When Jesus said to them, "I am he," they drew back and fell to the ground.

No, that would have been a level 2 telekinetic blast, a level 10 would have sent them flying through the air a couple of yards.:lol:

[Darth Executor]

No, that would have been a level 2 telekinetic blast, a level 10 would have sent them flying through the air a couple of yards.:lol:

Jesus was just a level five Messiah at the time. After His decent into hell He started picking up the pace. Imp, balrog and devil hunting racks up a lot of XP. By the time He was out He was a level 52 Demigod with a maxed telekinetic blast.

[jpholding]

http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showthread.php?t=55890&page=1&pp=16

Memo to self -- gold Screwball for Ponfyr.

[Cynic Sage]

http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showthread.php?t=55890&page=1&pp=16

Memo to self -- gold Screwball for Ponfyr.

Secular Crap! That guy is nuts! :twitch:

[Darth Executor]

Secular Crap!

:rofl:

[Darth Executor]

http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showthread.php?t=55004&page=13&pp=16

If I'm careful when I cross the road does it mean crossing the road is evil?


It means you know it's wrong.

Maybe I should jump in front of a car to appease his sense of morality.

[Cynic Sage]

More stuff from IIDB.

http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=127828

quikslvr1223 vbmenu_register("postmenu_2466348", true); [/color]]
I'm A<deleted full name> and m<delted full name> is my friend ryan. Ryan and I used to be a lot closer, we'd hang out, get lit, and play gran tourismo 4. We'd drink, smoke, go to parities,talk about cars and other normal stuff that we had in common. Then around mid April, we were hanging out before class and he said that he had found religion. At first I didn't take it seriously, but then he stopped smoking cigs(good job), pot, and drinking. He now says prayers over all of his food, changed his buddy icon from kill all bad drivers to jesus buddy, has a really gawdy jesus crusifix chain. He's really a drag to hang out with now. I hope that this is just a phase.


Honestly, quicksilver is beginning to sound like a guy out of a Jack Chick Tract.:lol:


And a nomination for King Rat, on his name choices for secular holidays.

http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=128699

Alter[/color]]
So what's your view on equinoxes/solstices (do they need better names?), and other days??

If you were able to create a large society of atheists, and pick the new holidays, what would you pick, what would you call them?


King Rat[/color]]
Sleep In Day

<edited for content by Johnny EC> Day

Amnesty Day

Drop Acid Day


"Drop Acid Day.":lol:

[Cynic Sage]

This post deleted, my mistake.

[Darth Executor]

No words needed:

http://www.jesusthemonstertruck.com/

[jpholding]

I take it that's a Landover Baptist kinda thing. Not sure if this is though:

http://hoax-buster.org/

I'm challenging their claim of "Patent on God."
Thou Shalt Not Patent God. AND
Thou shalt not terrorize children with threats of Hell.
Religion by it's very nature is child abusing. I was abused!!
Were you also abused? If you were brought up in faith you
were. Don't let this continue. Get the children out of church!
SAVE THE CHILDREN AND
SAVE THE CONSTITUTION
It's the most MORAL document ever written, inspired by Nature's God.
God has already blessed America. We won't throw Her blessings into the trash.


Moses and Jesus are just one person the Egyptian Pharaoh,
Amenophis IV. She appears to be a homosexual female, (woman
with wife) who was stupid enough to believe her father was the sun.
The burning bush is the sun. The hoaxers who wrote the Bible left
fingerprints all over ancient documents. Catholics will, unless they
are brain dead recognize their MASS. I did not label the pope's hat
which Jesus is wearing. Look at the first 4 letters of her name, AMEN

Wacky.

[Mark_S]

More stuff from IIDB.

http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=127828



Honestly, quicksilver is beginning to sound like a guy out of a Jack Chick Tract.:lol:


And a nomination for King Rat, on his name choices for secular holidays.

http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=128699





"Drop Acid Day.":lol:

The athiests already have a holiday......

April 1st

[Sparko]

No words needed:

http://www.jesusthemonstertruck.com/

:lmbo:

Watch as JESUS crushes and destroys all of his enemies
then finshes them off with the STIGMATA BLASTER©*
All in the name of GOD!!!



* Stigmata Blood may irritate skin and cause minor rashing



:lmbo:

[Cynic Sage]

I take it that's a Landover Baptist kinda thing. Not sure if this is though:

http://hoax-buster.org/


Dude! :lmbo:

http://hoax-buster.org/services.html


This picture comes from me, the hoax buster.
I made it from the "words" of the Bible. Would
anyone like to try proving I don't understand?
One of the angels, Lucifer tried to take over
heaven. "Bad angels" began to worship him.
Lucky for God, (A ball of fire) Michael, the arc
angel rescued Him and threw them all into Hell.


While Moses was preaching and teaching his face started to glow,
just like the glow from the cloud. Moses got too close to God, (ha!)
and his head caught on fire. That's what is says in the Bible.

That guy draws like my baby sister.:lol:

[Cynic Sage]

Constantine on the Samurai:

http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showthread.php?p=1085313#post1085313

I think honor suicides are a tragic waste of human life and are stupid. However, the key word we are dealing with here is SUICIDE. Those samurai killed THEMSELVES and no one else. How can one compare suicide with mass murder? Yes both are wrong but they are completely different issues.


Well, aside from those the Samurai killed on the battlefield, sometimes a Samurai would assist in a ritual suicide of another.

Seppuku--or disembowelment or hara-kiri (belly slicing)--is when a samurai stabs a knife into his abdomen and literally disembowels himself by cutting out his guts. After the samurai disembowels himself another samurai, usually a kinsman or friend, slices his head off. This form of suicide was "performed under various circumstances: to avoid capture in battle, which the samurai did not believe to be dishonorable and degrading, but generally bad policy; to atone for a misdeed or unworthy act; and perhaps most interestingly, to admonish one's lord" (Varley, 32). A samurai would rather kill himself than bring shame and disgrace to his family name and his lord. This was considered an act of true honor.
source (http://mcel.pacificu.edu/as/students/bushido/bsamurai.html)

[Cynic Sage]

Yup, Just when Athiests on Tweb are showing themselves to be be kind, thoughtful people, DivineOB comes along and ruins all they've accomplished in the eyes of Theists.

http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showthread.php?t=56052&page=1&pp=16

I hope they silence all gay haters and all Christians too.

Ha! Ha! Jokes on him, he accidentally distinguished "gay haters" from Xtians.

Anyone else from the alleged tolerant left care to chime in?

I'm not from the left and I"m not tolerant. I simply do not like your kind.

I see, "hate " is OK as long as it fits your personal bigotry

That's right. When my life and my happiness are threatened then extreme measures are justified.


Are you FOR free speech, or against it?

Or are you just FOR it as long as it fits YOUR social agenda?

:dizzy:

I am for it as long as it is neutral to or attacks my enemies. *All* Christians are my enemy. Therefore, ...


That being said, I wonder at what point divine ob went from being a run of the mill athiest to an angry, fascist conspiracy nut with an anti religious bias.

I'd question your description of me as a 'conspiracy nut,' but the rest is certainty true. It happened from a combinations of factors, but mainly from 1) the increasing success of those trying to derail evolution education and 2) Bush's arbitrary stance against stem cells.

...

Christianity is simple a disease of humanity which threatens the existence of our species, and only if it is killed off as quickly as possible (though it can be done, witness Scandinavia) can we ever hope to make it.

Just to be sure I am clear, the danger is people who make decisions (especially those that affect me) *without evidence*. I have *no* problem with people making decisions different from mine *based on evidence*. Christianity teaches that data / evidence are the enemy, and faith and hunches are a more powerful tool for discerning the truth. That is an unspeakable evil and an unspeakable danger.


To Dobbie, the Charicature that walks like a man. :cheers:

[Sparko]

To Dobbie, the Charicature that walks like a man. :cheers:

One has to question why someone like that hangs around on a Christian message board? He must have a massochistic streak a mile wide, or has way too much time on his hands.

[jpholding]

One has to question why someone like that hangs around on a Christian message board? He must have a massochistic streak a mile wide, or has way too much time on his hands.

Frustrated apostates need no excuse. :lol:

[Sparko]

Frustrated apostates need no excuse. :lol:

You have to wonder about athiests though. On one hand, they profess to not believe in God, but on the hand they seem to spend an inordinate amount of time dealing with their 'unbelief' of God, to the point of obsession.

I don't believe in Aliens and UFO's but I also don't spend my life hangin around on UFO boards telling people I don't believe in UFO's either. It's not worth the effort. I did spend some time on a board once debunking PlanetX, but that soon grew boring and I left.

But Atheists seem to spend all their time reading about atheism, studying the bible to debunk it, writing books about it, posting on message boards, taking on people like you, JP, and so on. They make entire careers about not believing in God and interacting with Christians and other theists. Its very ironic.

[Cynic Sage]

HyperHobbes, for his special brand of Calvinism.

http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showthread.php?t=56156

All of us are cunning replicas of what God originally intended in his creation. We are dying sacks of meat with a dead soul in place of a real one. All we deserve is "retirement." The elect are those tin men that are given a heart.


"cunning replicas"?

[Cynic Sage]

Pythagoras, on the Jews wanting to execute Jesus for making divine claims:

http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showthread.php?p=1090022#post1090022


But let us indulge the trinitarians. Since they claim the Jews accused Jesus of making himself God Almighty(Yhwh) in John 10:33, shouldn't they specify to us also what exactly the Jews meant by that accusation? Specifically, were the Jews accusing Jesus of making himself God the Father, God the Son or God the Holy Spirit ?

Trinitarians have a tendency to dish out claims without carefully thinking them through,and come crunch time they can't explain themselves .
I don't blame them. How do you explain nonsense?

[Darth Executor]

LakeGeorgeMan interprets the bible profesionally:

Hey Byron,

Welcome to Tweb. Howdya manage to snag that handle? I woulda thought "skeptic" was long taken, well congrats on that!

Anyway...I often wonder how the universe kept working during those 2 days when the Christian god was "dead". :hrm:

Perhaps there exists a universe "auto-pilot" button? Perhaps he turned over the controls and launch codes to a trusted angel, or Peter, or the Vice-god?

Anyway...it appears the necessary being isn't always so necessary... if everything works the same when he's dead...

[Cynic Sage]

LakeGeorgeMan interprets the bible profesionally:

Darth, PLEASE remember the source link.

[HyperHobbes]

HyperHobbes, for his special brand of Calvinism.

http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showthread.php?t=56156



"cunning replicas"?Did I miss it, or did you have the nerve to respond?

HHobbes

[Cynic Sage]

Did I miss it, or did you have the nerve to respond?

HHobbes

I don't have any spat with Calvinism, I just thought the way you worded it was funny.

[HyperHobbes]

I went to the site were Screwballs are listed. I see that someone there was castigated last month for poor wording, namely, poor spelling. Is that what qualifies you, odd grammar and unique spelling choices? I'm going to guess we all do that, but my choice of wording is award winning?

HHobbes

[Cynic Sage]

I went to the site were Screwballs are listed. I see that someone there was castigated last month for poor wording, namely, poor spelling. Is that what qualifies you, odd grammar and unique spelling choices? I'm going to guess we all do that, but my choice of wording is award winning?

HHobbes

No, it's just that from the way you phrased it, it sounds like you were saying that non-believers (and/or the elect) don't have a heart.

[HyperHobbes]

No, it's just that from the way you phrased it, it sounds like you were saying that non-believers (and/or the elect) don't have a heart.They (non-believers) are spiritually dead and never were alive, incapable of response. We mistake them understandably for being like us, but they are not. Cunning Replicas. Children of their father the devil.

HHobbes

[Cynic Sage]

They are spiritually dead and never were alive, incapable of response. We mistake them understandably for being like us, but they are not. Cunning Replicas. Children of their father the devil.

HHobbes

Oh, okay then, I was wrong.

JP, keep hyperhobbes's nomination.:teeth:

[HyperHobbes]

I'm being nominated as "screwball of the month" for having what amounts to a "Hyper Calvinist" point of view? I never saw such views as extremely popular, but they are familiar and hardly unique.

HHobbes

[Darth Executor]

Darth, PLEASE remember the source link.

Here it is you nerd:

http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showthread.php?t=56294&page=4

[Truthdigger]

Here is a little nugget from an atheist apparently mad at money:

http://evangelicalatheist.com/

In an article called "God in your pocket", the author actually says this:



I won’t tolerate it anymore. I’m certainly not the first person to write about this topic, and I hope I won’t be the last, but I had to write a post about this simple and wide-reaching way to evangelize atheism. Take a pen (I use a Sharpie) and leave it on your dresser or night stand. At the end of each day, when you remove your money from your pocket, take 10 seconds to make it constitutional. I like to think of it as “money laundering.”

Some people like to cross out the entire phrase. I just cross out the word god. Most people who will see the bill don’t know what’s there well enough to get the point if I cross the whole thing out. If you want, you can substitute something of your own, like “Ourselves” or “Timmy,” but I like the simplicity of just a black line. If you are offended by this phrase’s presence on our money, and you’re not doing this, you’re just lazy.



My favorite part is the end,

Be informed. Be enraged. Buy a marker.

:rofl:

Methinks I will have to stick around for more on this site!

[Higon]

Wow!! Now that´s a fundy. Silver, at least. Should make the "You may be a fundamentalist atheist if..." list.

[Sparko]

I reported the site to the US Secret Service. Defacing money and having scans of money on a web site are both illegal.

[Darth Executor]

I reported the site to the US Secret Service. Defacing money and having scans of money on a web site are both illegal.

:lmbo:

[Higon]

From FormerFundy:


Don't read the Bible literally, read it literarily.
Is that the best you can muster? Pointing out a typo? I would expect more from the revered Dr. Jaltus, Defender of the Universe.

http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showpost.php?p=1092140&postcount=7

[Cynic Sage]

I reported the site to the US Secret Service. Defacing money and having scans of money on a web site are both illegal.

I thought that was only illegal in Canada.

How would we report the guy, does the Secret Service have a website? :grin:

[jpholding]

From FormerFundy:



http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showpost.php?p=1092140&postcount=7

That's Gold for sure. Watch him make excuses for it.

Also a gold for Johnny Skeptic -- for just showing up here again.

[Darth Executor]

That's Gold for sure. Watch him make excuses for it.

Also a gold for Johnny Skeptic -- for just showing up here again.

I don't think he'll come back to that thread. Unless his mistake eats away at his ego so much that he can't help but return to defend his honor.

[Sparko]

does the Secret Service have a website? :grin:

Yep. and I used it to report him to the investigations unit. Not sure if it will do any good, but at least it was fun.

[Cynic Sage]

Yep. and I used it to report him to the investigations unit. Not sure if it will do any good, but at least it was fun.

Let's keep watching his blog, oh yes, let's do. :grin::lol:

[Darth Executor]

From that site

“But wait,” you say “Isn’t that illegal?” Well… yes. However, the good folks over at godoffmoney.com received a letter from the Treasury Department telling them that they had to stop selling stamps, but that the law would otherwise go unenforced.

I doubt he'll get in trouble.

[Sparko]

From that site



I doubt he'll get in trouble.

Unless the secret service (who investigates for the treasury dept) sees that little quip of his and sees that he is blatently defying the law, then they might want to make an example of the twit. :hehe:

[HyperHobbes]

"There's a Typo": Golden dun award winnersThen I nominate JP for his own award. (I've got to have some competition since Johnny Nominated me.) What's a Golden Dun by the way, a gold plated past due notice? A horse of a different color?

HHobbes

[Darth Executor]

Then I nominate JP for his own award. (I've got to have some competition since Johnny Nominated me.) What's a Golden Dun by the way, a gold plated past due notice? A horse of a different color?

HHobbes

JP gives awards for typos?

[Sparko]

JP gives awards for typos?

Kin I gets won then?

[HyperHobbes]

"JP gives awards for typos?"He was giving some poor soul Holy Sheol for typos, and then typo'd himself. I give a hat tip to Hammy for noticing it. http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:q53EVCjdfUgJ:www.tektonics.org/parody/may05scr.htm+%22golden+dun+Award%22&hl=en&client=firefox-a Thanks to Johnny EC for dragging me into this thread. I'd also like to thank my mother, my father, my Sunday School teacher, my wife, (or she will punish me for not doing so) and everyone else I forgot. Post #100! Do I get an award for that?

HHobbes

[Higon]

Post #100! Do I get an award for that?

Just if it comes with a typo.

[jpholding]

He was giving some poor soul Holy Sheol for typos,

Please. The man couldn't SPELL. It wasn't "typos".

[HyperHobbes]

"Please. The man couldn't SPELL. It wasn't 'typos'."Just trying to deflect attention from Johnny's nomination of me. Does this mean you confess to the crime of bad spelling?

HHobbes

Confess ! Confess ! Cardinal Fang, he must be made of sterner stuff. Fetch the Comfy Chair!

[Cynic Sage]

Please. The man couldn't SPELL. It wasn't "typos".

JP, I believe he is referring to "Golden Dun Award Winners".

[Darth Executor]

JP, I believe he is referring to "Golden Dun Award Winners".

Since N is next to H it's a typo, not a spelling error.