Prominent creationists/evolutionists you've met in person

[Korihor]

I was just curious. Who are some prominent creationists or evolutionists in the E/C controversy that you have met in person? (That is, in the flesh, and personally talked with)

Personally, I've met Denis Lamoureux, co-author of the book Darwinism Defeated?, former YEC, and theistic evolutionist.

I've also met YEC Margaret Helder, of the Creation Science Association of Alberta. Dr. Lamoureux actually knows her personally and invited her as a guest speaker in one of his classes on science and religion, which I had a chance to attend.

As for people I've seen only from afar giving presentations, I once saw OEC Hugh Ross (of Reasons to Believe) and IDist Marvin Fritzler (one of the 100 signers of the Discovery Institute's "A Scientific Dissent from Darwinism").

[Roy]

Today @ 05:43 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=118422#post118422)
Korihor:

I was just curious. Who are some prominent creationists or evolutionists in the E/C controversy that you have met in person?

Monty White from AiG. I wasn't impressed.

Roy

[Socratism]

I've already mentioned my unfortunate experience of attending a lecture on the evolution of the horse given by Sir Julian Huxley.

All in all though, worrying too much about famous personalities is a form of "hero worship" that should properly be restricted to the only human who ever deserved to be worshipped.

This is just another reason why I would never even in my wildest dreams consider joining the Catholic Church.

[Socrates]

06-06-2003 @ 04:04 AM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=118428#post118428)
rthearle:

Monty White from AiG. I wasn't impressed.

Who gives a monkey's about what impresses a nonentity like Thearle? Dr White has more scientific knowledge in his little finger than Thearle has in his whole body.

And I heard the Australian AiG speakers at the last Creation Camp, as well as Ph.D. astronomer Danny Faulkner, Ph.D. anatomist David Menton, and leading plate tectonics modeller Dr John Baumgardner.

[Roy]

Today @ 03:45 AM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=158475#post158475)
Socrates:

Who gives a monkey's about what impresses a nonentity like Thearle?
Dr White has more scientific knowledge in his little finger than Thearle has in his whole body.


Then explain
(i) why his book quotes (wrongly) from works he admitted he had never read, and
(ii) why he was still distributing Gish's erroneous pamphlet on the bombadier beetle more than 20 years after it was shown to contain errors?



Roy

[Roy]

Today @ 03:45 AM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=158475#post158475)
Socrates:

And I heard the Australian AiG speakers at the last Creation Camp, as well as Ph.D. astronomer Danny Faulkner, Ph.D. anatomist David Menton, and leading plate tectonics modeller Dr John Baumgardner.

Who gives a monkey's what you heard?

Roy

[Socrates]

Today @ 09:15 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=158644#post158644)
rthearle:

Then explain
(i) why his book quotes (wrongly) from works he admitted he had never read, and
(ii) why he was still distributing Gish's erroneous pamphlet on the bombadier beetle more than 20 years after it was shown to contain errors?

Why should we believe a vexatious misotheist like you? And look at the evolutionary books which still have Haeckel's forged embryo pics and staged peppered moth pics.

[Frumious]

Of the 72 Nobel Laureates who signed the Amicus Curiae brief opposing the teaching of creationism in public schools in the Edwards v. Aguillard Supreme Court case I have met 4, Linus Pauling, Murray Gell-Mann, William Lipscomb and Rosalyn Yalow. Of these Linus Pauling was undoubtably the most famous. I met him once in the late 60's while in grad school at his alma mater, Oregon state, and then had lunch with him in 1986 when our department hosted a visit to company I was working for at the time. I met Murry Gell-Mann, who everyone just calls Murray when we were attending different conferences at the same conference center in Italy. We only talked about the Cuckoo that were signing outside our windows in the morning and the hotel's semi-functional elevators. Other Nobel Laureats I have met and talked with for at least some time are Max Perutz and Iyla Prigogine. I talked one on one with Iyla Prigogine for about an hour over lunch one day about 20 years ago. I have also heard lectures by David Baltimore and Arther Kornberg but can't say that I really met them. How's that for name dropping? I found most of these people to be humble and easy to talk to though Lipscomb seemed to have a bit of an attitude. It's hard to tell if that goes more with the Nobel prize or being a Harvard Prof. The daughter of a friend was with us whe he toured my lab and she was attending Yale at the time. Lipsomb told her to call him if she wanted to go to a "good" school but I suppose he was joking.

The Frumious Bandersnatch

[Roy]

Today @ 11:26 AM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=158648#post158648)
Socrates:



Why should we believe a vexatious misotheist like you?

So are you saying I'm lying?

Roy

[Lobstrosity]

Today @ 03:26 AM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=158648#post158648)
Socrates:


Why should we believe a vexatious misotheist like you? And look at the evolutionary books which still have Haeckel's forged embryo pics and staged peppered moth pics.

(i) because he's correct
(ii) because he's honest enough to avoid muddling the issues he addresses with blatant red herrings such as this tripe. The issue you brought to the table and to which rthearle responded was that of White's scientific acumen and ethics. What does this have to do with the misinformed work of a few unnamed and wholly irrelevant authors? Does this somehow justify White's incompetence/dishonesty...is this the ridiculous point you were trying to make?

I just love your debating style sock...respond to valid criticism with an ad hom followed by a red herring. Bravo!