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Bob Jenkins
June 10th 2003, 01:35 AM
ASTROBIOLOGY
Bulletproof bacteria
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About a decade ago, a scientific debate erupted over whether there were signs of life on a piece of rock that had been blasted from Mars and traveled to Earth. Today, few researchers believe the infamous rock ever bore microbes, but some are stilI testing whether a Mars-to- Earth transport of life is possible.
After firing bacteria-loaded projectiles into clay, Wayne Nicholson of the University of Arizona in Tucson and his colleagues argue that microbes could survive the extreme acceleration and shock forces experienced when a rock is blown into space by a major impact on a planetary surface.

Some investigators have concluded that microbes within rocks could survive the long transit between planets and the plunge through Earth's atmosphere, but there has been little focus on the initial launch into space, notes Nicholson. To reach a velocity high enough to escape Mars' gravitational pull, material on the planetary surface would undergo acceleration up to 3.4 million meters per second per second (m/s/s). That's about 35,000 times the force of Earth's gravity, or G. In contrast, shuttle astronauts experience up to 3 Gs during a launch.
To investigate the effects of this extreme acceleration on life, the researchers loaded two kinds of bacteria-the spore-forming Bacillius subtiZis and the radiation-resistant Deinococcus radiodurans (SN: 12/12/98, p. 376)-into lead pellets and used an air rifle to fire the pellets into chilled modeling clay. The deceleration of some of the pellets reached 4.5 million mlsls, and survival of the bacteria ranged from 40 to 100 percent. "We're not reducing viability by a lot;' says Nicholson.
The investigators plan to use a large gas gun owned by NASA to fire extremely highvelocity projectiles into bacteria-covered concrete. They'll search the resulting debris, which should reach speeds close to that needed to escape Mars, for any microbial survivors. "This is the closest simulation we can get on Earth;' says Nicholson. - J. T.

Socratism
June 10th 2003, 07:57 AM
As soon as the next boondoggles to Mars arrive there, we will be favored with a new round of wild speculations and premature announcements about how life originated on Mars (or anywhere but on Earth).

Bob Jenkins
June 10th 2003, 08:44 AM
- As soon as the next boondoggles to Mars arrive there, we will be favored with a new round of wild speculations and premature announcements about how life [Bob: 'possibly"]originated on Mars (or anywhere but on Earth).

I like you signature too!

wienerdog
June 10th 2003, 02:08 PM
If life is found on Mars, it probably got there from Earth. To get from Mars to here, it has to go against the solar wind. I've heard that there are some micro-organisms in the upper atmosphere that can survive many months in a vacuum and almost-absolute-zero temperatures.

geochron
June 10th 2003, 03:40 PM
Today @ 07:08 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=119448#post119448)
wienerdog:

If life is found on Mars, it probably got there from Earth. To get from Mars to here, it has to go against the solar wind.

I think the idea is that it hitches a ride on a meteorite. The effect of the solar wind on meteorites is negligible.

Thought I've never been convinced that there's a need for life to have started on Mars rather than the Earth.

Minnesota
June 10th 2003, 03:51 PM
Thought I've never been convinced that there's a need for life to have started on Mars rather than the Earth.

Yeah? Then who do you suppose dug all the canals if it wasn't Martians?? Answer that, smarty! The Good Book even confirms it in Confusions 22:5

Dee Dee Warren
June 10th 2003, 03:54 PM
I dug the canals. That is what is powering TWeb.

Joe Meert
June 10th 2003, 06:04 PM
Today @ 03:54 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=119558#post119558)
Dee Dee Warren:

I dug the canals. That is what is powering TWeb.

JM: You dug them on my command. It is the water I started flowing that gave rise to the organisms. TWEB is only in your mind, it exists nowhere else.

Cheers

Joe Meert

Dee Dee Warren
June 10th 2003, 06:06 PM
Today @ 06:04 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=119681#post119681)
Joe Meert:


TWEB is only in your mind, it exists nowhere else.


For four painful days that was horribly true.

geochron
June 11th 2003, 03:53 AM
Yesterday @ 08:51 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=119554#post119554)
Minnesota:



Yeah? Then who do you suppose dug all the canals if it wasn't Martians?? Answer that, smarty! The Good Book even confirms it in Confusions 22:5

Which good book? I thought Confusions was an eastern philosopher.