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    I came across this paragraph while researching for a paper I'm writing on how the church can reach sexual abuse victims. I think it speaks for itself... the fact that most churches don't do this sort of thing seems hard to square with the idea that there's an entire book of the Bible called Lamentations.

    Very few hymns express lament and psalms that are used in a
    modern paraphrase are almost never psalms of lament, but usually
    psalms of praise. And there is rarely formal liturgical provision
    for the expression of lament. The virtual exclusion of
    lament from most Christian worship carries a strong implicit
    message that such lament has no legitimate place in worship.
    Yet most congregations most of the time will have someone
    who is hurting.
    - R.W.L. Moberly
    "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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    Hmmmmm

    giving this a mull
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    • #3
      <insert standard comment about how Protestant horror of Tradition has generally led them to abandon using the Psalms as part of liturgy and hence the laments within>

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      • #4
        http://matthewjacoby.tumblr.com/post...-i-was-driving (click the play button to hear the music)

        One of the things I like about Sons of Korah is that they play all the Psalms, not just the happy ones.

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        • #5
          Tenebrae. It's awesome... though it does only happen once a year

          And then there's the various settings of the Miserere and a lot of other similar hymns that come out around Holy Week (but only then ).

          Incidentally, KG, have you come across either of these documents in your research?
          http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/co...nc-itc_en.html
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dives_in_misericordia
          Don't call it a comeback. It's a riposte.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Spartacus View Post
            Incidentally, KG, have you come across either of these documents in your research?
            http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/co...nc-itc_en.html
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dives_in_misericordia
            No; it's a semester project and I just started my research yesterday. I'll give those a look, thanks.
            "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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            • #7
              Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
              No; it's a semester project and I just started my research yesterday. I'll give those a look, thanks.
              The first is, IIRC, a theological exploration/explanation of Pope John Paul II's various apologies during the Jubilee Year in 2000-- that is, an answer to the question, in what sense is it possible for the Church to apologize or ask forgiveness for sins committed by its members?
              Don't call it a comeback. It's a riposte.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Paprika View Post
                <insert standard comment about how Protestant horror of Tradition has generally led them to abandon using the Psalms as part of liturgy and hence the laments within>

                <add in standard quote about how the modern church has removed mention of suffering from the believer's life>
                "For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6

                "Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom

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