Do you drink Alcoholic beverages or not?

[Ishmael]

I like beer.

In fact, I am quite dubious of any man who does not indulge the ales, beers, and lagers... :hrm:

[Gavin]

Although drunkeness is clearly forbidden in Ephesians 5:18, I see no exegetical warrant for banning all drinking in moderation.

I really don't see a distinction between drinking alcohol and eating, say, candy. The glutton and the drunk are sinners alike.:cheers:

[smilax]

Keep in mind that the alcohol back then was way watered down.

That having been said, there is no Biblical warrant for completely forbidding alcohol, although drunkenness or addiction are clearly wrong. As for uses of wine, just look at the last supper, or Paul's command to Timothy, Melchizedek and Abraham, or Wisdom's party. Abstinence was opposed because ascetism resulted from the dualistic view (yay, Gnosticism) of anything physical as pure evil.

Colossians ii, 20-23: "Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances, (touch not; taste not; handle not; which all are to perish with the using;) after the commandments and doctrines of men? Which things have indeed a shew of wisdom in will worship, and humility, and neglecting of the body; not in any honour to the satisfying of the flesh."

I Timothy iv, 1-5: "Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving: for it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer."

I'm too young to drink... I doubt I would even if I could.

[Sozo]

I have to have a couple of beers just to understand Dee Dee's posts!

[yxboom]

I think Calvinist had a few beers before posting cause he misspelt his own screen name :hrm:

[Hitch]

Laphroaig should anyone find themself in a gifting mood...


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[graceinme]

My favorite drink is A Orange Cream blended, by TGIF. As far as being a drunkard, like anything else to much is to much.

[Alden]

Heck, I'm toasted right now!!:duh: :eww: :wtg: I need to do something to fill in the quiet hours at bible college.

Actually, although I'm not much for getting smashed, I do go in for the occasional pint of Guinness or Newcastle. Mostly the former though. What can I say? It must be the Irish in me.

[AcousticJS]

Hitch:
Laphroaig should anyone find themself in a gifting mood...


Amen!!! One of the best Islay Malts ever!!! I also like beer, ale, lager and other Malt Whiskys (proper Scotch, none of this Jack Daniels/Jim Beam rubbish ;)). Drambuie is also a nice Scotch-based liquer.

Obviously, I don't think that the Bible bans alcohol, though I believe it may be wrong for some people (former alcoholics, others whom God tells to give it up).

God bless
Jon

[dizzle]

Sozo:
I have to have a couple of beers just to understand Dee Dee's posts!


Gah!!!!!

[dizzle]

I do not drink... it is not because I believe it is forbidden by the Bible, but I know that even after one drink, I get "different" and certainly not in complete restraint of what may come out of my mouth. I need to be in complete soberness to follow the maxim, "Not everything that pops in your mind Dee Dee needs to come out of your mouth."

[Ishmael]

yxboom:
I think Calvinist had a few beers before posting cause he misspelt his own screen name :hrm:

I don't need beeer to misspell anything on these boards.

1. I can't type.
2. There is no spell checker.
3. I am not careful about proofing my comments, everytime.


I was just thinking on the way home from PT this morning that I was going to start be more careful about my posts...

[dizzle]

PT? Partial Tanning? Peeping Tom? Proofreading Text? Positive Tension? Pubs and Taverns?

[dizzle]

I don't need beeer to misspell anything on these boards.



Ironic isn't it?

[Rubia Warren]

I never drink alcohol.
The reason being, that in my old days, I rarely drank, either (I used to like other stuff ;) ) I hate the taste of any kind of alcohol- I've never liked it, and only drank it before to get wasted (although I had to slam it because it tastes gross).
I don't have any problem with others drinking in moderation, though. I don't think it is a sin or anything, as long as it is in moderation.

[Ishmael]

Dee Dee Warren:
PT? Partial Tanning? Peeping Tom? Proofreading Text? Positive Tension? Pubs and Taverns?

It's even more ironic when I spell my user name "Calsinist".. something I do now and again when I get in a hurry... damn sticky keyboard at work!

[Freak]

I do not drink. As a minister of the Gospel I believe I need to be above reproach "in all things"--as Christ gives strength.

I have no problem if other believers want to partake.

[Em7add11]

I drink occasionally. I enjoy it quite a bit which is why I try to temper myself. There's a history of alcoholism in my family so I've seen what it can do to people.

But I still enjoy a good stiff drink among friends.

[yxboom]

Dee Dee Warren:
Ironic isn't it? Virile!

[TheFiveSolas]

Dee,
PT (Physical Training), Calvinist is in the military.

Calvinist,
Thanks for being among those that protect our country!

[Gavin]

the question is, what kind of alcoholic beverages do ya'll enjoy?

[Ishmael]

Gavin:
the question is, what kind of alcoholic beverages do ya'll enjoy?

I personally like Sierra Nevada Pale Ale the best.

[Pilgrim]

I drink all of the above. In moderation of course.

My favorite beer is Caffrey's Irish. It's hard to find in the states but is well worth the search. It settles like a Guiness but is not as dark.

I also love a good single malt scotch. In fact, I think I'll pour myself a bit of Balvenie right now. (Though I prefer the Glen Morangie 15 year)

Peace,
Pilgrim

[Pilgrim]

Oh and Smilax, you said the alchohol back then was more watered down? I don't think so. The fermentation process was the same. We had this conversation on another board and the evidence presented seem to indicate just the opposite.

:dufus:

[Em7add11]

My favorite is Crown Royal. That stuff is like a blanket in a bottle.

[Sozo]

Gavin:
the question is, what kind of alcoholic beverages do ya'll enjoy?

Beer... Bass
Wine... Cabernet

[Ishmael]

TheFiveSolas:
Dee,
PT (Physical Training), Calvinist is in the military.

Calvinist,
Thanks for being among those that protect our country!

Thanks 5Solas.

DDW knows that I am in the Army. She is abusing her Amin powers as ussual.

[Pilgrim]

Why have crown royal when you can have a true single malt? (Besides the price I mean)

[yxboom]

I highly enjoy Skyy :thumb:

[Jaltus]

I have never had a drink nor will I. Drinking kills brain cells, and as anyone who has met me can tell, my brain is my only "selling" point.

That said, my wife drinks, and I only beat her every other time for it.

[Ishmael]

Jaltus:
I have never had a drink nor will I. Drinking kills brain cells, and as anyone who has met me can tell, my brain is my only "selling" point.

That said, my wife drinks, and I only beat her every other time for it.

If your brain is so big why did you bail out of the Infant baptism thread after you told me I used Calvin instead of the Greek text?

[Em7add11]

Pilgrim:
Why have crown royal when you can have a true single malt? (Besides the price I mean)
I'm terribly uneducated about all these things. What classifies as a single malt?

[smilax]

Pilgrim:
We had this conversation on another board and the evidence presented seem to indicate just the opposite.Hmm... Want to share?

[Jaltus]

Calvinist,

Totally forgot about it.

[Hitch]

Im inspired to search my cupboards for a we dram of the distilled tears of Islay's guardian angel....

[Hitch]

Em7add11:

I'm terribly uneducated about all these things. What classifies as a single malt? A single malt is akin to a wine taken from a specific vinyard. It is unmixed thereby retaining the distinctive qualities of a particular geography .

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[Reba]

A little booze and i get mouthy:cheers:

[GrayPilgrim]

I'm a German snob when it comes to alcohol! If it ain't German I steer clear. The German Brewing Laws forbid preservatives. And besides they know how to make a nice Auslesse or Spaetlesse that is so sweet!

[Em7add11]

I've had Scottish beer twice and that was the best beer I've ever had. It was really thick and was almost as strong as wine, but man was it smooth.

[Hitch]

GrayPilgrim:
I'm a German snob when it comes to alcohol! If it ain't German I steer clear. The German Brewing Laws forbid preservatives. And besides they know how to make a nice Auslesse or Spaetlesse that is so sweet! OPTIMATOR

[Ishmael]

"Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."
~Benjamin Franklin

[Sozo]

Calvinist:
"Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."
~Benjamin Franklin

OK, I was wrong... there was one great theologian :cheers:

[Hitch]

Calvinist:
"Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."
~Benjamin Franklin I'll drink to that.

[Ishmael]

Hitch:
I'll drink to that.

I am drinking Rolling Rock tonight. I like extra pale... I was going to drink some Sierra Nevada Pale Ale but it $7.99 a six pack and I have been spending a bunch of money of supplies for going someplace....

[Chief of Staff Lizard]

:cheers:

I don't drink anymore for personal reason (wifes family is alchoholic), but when I did rolling rock was one of my favorites.

Yum!!!!

Drink one for me.

[Hitch]

I reckon im fortunate. Around here if you're in town and trip you fall into a Book Store or a Micro-Brew Pub.



A local favorite is TERMINATOR,, as dark as Bosco...

But Ill down one for ya anyways...

Hitch

[Socrates]

Yeah, drinking is over-rated in today's culture, but not a sin. Only drunkenness is a sin, and is to drinking what gluttony is to food. Don't really like most of the stuff, except sweet fruity wine and flavorsome liqueurs. I have no patience for claims that Jesus turned water into grape juice etc. :duh:

[Iceman]

Socrates:
I have no patience for claims that Jesus turned water into grape juice etc. :duh:

it was actually Welch's Sparking Grape Juice... trust me :grin:

[Hitch]

White or red smart guy?

[Jade]

Gavin:
the question is, what kind of alcoholic beverages do ya'll enjoy?

Celebrator Doppelbock (http://www.celebrator.com) is my favorite: it's a German import!

[PRAISE]

Actually, (although very rarley), I will have a beer with a meal! I was never a big drinker, even in college!


Praising God for the GREAT way my parents brought me up!
PRAISE:thumb:

[Ishmael]

PRAISE:
Actually, (although very rarley), I will have a beer with a meal! I was never a big drinker, even in college!


Praising God for the GREAT way my parents brought me up!
PRAISE:thumb:

:huh:

[Jaltus]

I was the designated driver at my own 21st birthday party.

[GrayPilgrim]

:rofl:

[Sozo]

Jaltus:
I was the designated driver at my own 21st birthday party.

How many people can you fit in a Pinto?

[Pereynol of Sheer Dread]

Chimay Ale---brewed by Trappists in Belgium!:angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel:

[Jaltus]

How many people can you fit in a Pinto? No idea, I was driving a 78 Malibu.

[Sozo]

Jaltus:
No idea, I was driving a 78 Malibu.

That is way to much car for a geek, you have to sell it to me.

[Jaltus]

It wasn't mine.

[Pereynol of Sheer Dread]

:bawl:
:cheers:


"Hide the beer---the pastor's here!"

[Ishmael]

:rofl:

[Hitch]

pereynol:
:bawl:
:cheers:


"Hide the beer---the pastor's here!" He'll drink it all huh?

[HeDied4all]

I use to drink and drug and I am thankfull that the Lord has cleansed me of that which I do not need and that which serves no purpose. To each his own, and this is my walk...

[b488]

I was on an army deployment to the philippenes, at a local karaoke bar, after a long hot and hard day of backbreaking labor, knocking a couple of longnecks back of one of the local fare, brooding about my circumstances, feeling very lonely and homesick (married only 4 weeks before), I heard someone ask, "What are you doing?"
Now, I dont know if it was from the lyrics of the song that was being sung by, from one of the boisterous revelers beside me, something i thought aloud or the voice of God. But I was forced to admit that i didnt know. I had a realization that this is probably how my dad felt when he was on deployment so long ago (and he became an alcoholoic, btw) and I thought of my mom, who suffered so greatly as a result, and I thought of my bride, full of hope and sparkle and dreams . And i stood up and walked away, resloved to not have any alcohol at least for the time being.
The time i had been spending goofing off at the enlisted club and other places, i spent at the mess tent, reading the bible from cover to cover. The amazing thing about it was that people seemed to be instantly and oddly attracted to this , and before i knew it I had people left and right asking me questions about the bible and christianity and reading the bible with me etc. (I would be embarrassed now if i heard some of my simple answers now, i fear)
Anyway, i see now that for me and alcohol the principle of "anything not done in faith is sin" applies. The sin of my fathers (I have done a little probing of my ancestry and im fairly sure that alcoholism stretches all the way back to Cain :tongue: ) visited upon me, but I have trusted on Christ not to be guilty of it and perpetuate (even potentially) such an awful 'curse'

To those who can, I say cheers, but make mine a birch beer!

:cheers:

Ciao! :thumb:

[Salus]

I like the occasional beer or vodka on the rocks. Personally, I don't feel anything is "wrong" with a drink. I believe alcoholism or drinking for the sake of drunkeness are sinful and just plain wrong. But I do not find an occasional social drink to be a damnable offense.