If you want to know the field well and succeed, what are some tips I recommend to follow? Read and see. http://deeperwaters.ddns.net/?p=8513
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Good article, Nick.
I would add, however, BE APPROACHABLE. And KNOW some LOST people! What good is all the knowledge and skill and experience if there's nobody "asking of the hope within you"?
But I look at this not from a "debate" viewpoint, but from a "winning souls" and "training men" standpoint. (Not saying you don't - I always enjoy your writing and viewpoints)The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Or conspiracies about whether or not you have to pay the IRS which ends up with you going to jail.Be watchful, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong.
1 Corinthians 16:13
"...he [Doherty] is no historian and he is not even conversant with the historical discussions of the very matters he wants to pontificate on."
-Ben Witherington III
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Nor should one proclaim "Galileo was wrong!" as a part of their apologetics."[Mathematics] is the revealer of every genuine truth, for it knows every hidden secret, and bears the key to every subtlety of letters; whoever, then, has the effrontery to pursue physics while neglecting mathematics should know from the start he will never make his entry through the portals of wisdom."
--Thomas Bradwardine, De Continuo (c. 1325)
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Originally posted by Boxing Pythagoras View PostNor should one proclaim "Galileo was wrong!" as a part of their apologetics.
Michael Flinn has a very good detailed breakdown of the whole incident starting here:
http://tofspot.blogspot.com/2013/08/...smackdown.html (which is down for me at the moment for some reason, here is the google cache)
http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...B5Tx8gWZlYGQDwBe watchful, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong.
1 Corinthians 16:13
"...he [Doherty] is no historian and he is not even conversant with the historical discussions of the very matters he wants to pontificate on."
-Ben Witherington III
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Originally posted by Raphael View PostBut at the same time the whole Galileo affair is not what it is often made out to be. It was not so much Church vs Science as Galileo's arrogance clashing with the Pope's pride. (yes, the Pope probably over reacted to being called a simpleton but there you have it)
Michael Flinn has a very good detailed breakdown of the whole incident starting here:
http://tofspot.blogspot.com/2013/08/...smackdown.html (which is down for me at the moment for some reason, here is the google cache)
http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...B5Tx8gWZlYGQDw
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And now, he is primarily remembered for his role in Bohemian Rhapsody."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostGalileo was also permitted to continue promoting it as long as he referred to it as a theory (this was before science defined the word theory in a different manner that as commonly used). He insisted on pushing it and the RCC over reacted. Of course almost all of the Protestant leaders denounced heliocentrism as well.- he kept on pushing it, and painted his sympathisers as fools for not immediately agreeing with him
- At the time it was not yet proven fact, and the majority of the scientific establishment of the day thought it was wrong (as they followed the models based on the Ptolemaic system)
- Copernicus' model (and Galileo's one) was infact wrong (sorry BP), as it used circular orbits and way more epicycles than some of the geo-centric models with way more complex maths than most of the geo-centric models and than the helio-centric model with elliptical orbits.
- Keppler was the first one who actually got the models right. (and Galileo seems to have ignored his stuff, despite being sent a copy, because it wasn't Galileo's or something like that).
- The pope did completely over-react to being calling a simpleton....but that is somewhat understandable
Be watchful, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong.
1 Corinthians 16:13
"...he [Doherty] is no historian and he is not even conversant with the historical discussions of the very matters he wants to pontificate on."
-Ben Witherington III
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