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Rubia Warren
October 12th 2005, 09:01 AM
This isn't just about selling lots of stuff, but about gift-giving too.
Ever since I was homeless for a short time back in 1999, I look at material things differently. They don't mean much to me in that, I don't hold onto them like some other people do. I'm constantly either selling stuff or giving it away. There are very very few things in my possession that I actually would not consider selling. I just don't attach anything to my material possessions anymore- at least not often- it's rare when I do. It's just stuff. To me, stuff comes, and stuff goes. It means nothing, and it could be gone tomorrow anyway.
This sounds really bad, but I'll be honest about it anyway: even photographs don't mean much to me anymore. I wouldn't sell pictures of my family or anything like that, but I don't have that emotional, nostalgic thingie that other people do when I look at them. It's like, since that experience a few years ago, I am almost completely detached emotionally from material objects. They are but a tool and nothing more.
But people always make wisecracks and comments to me about stuff that I sell. If a friend or family member doesn't want something anymore and offers it to me for free, they almost always attach the condition, "but you can't SELL IT, r00bz." or "You want this? You can have it, just don't SELL IT." "Here, I bought you this thing, rubia, cuz I knew you like this stuff. Now don't turn around a get rid of it later, ok?" Or here is the biggest one I hear, "I gotta get rid of this thing. It's in my way. You want it r00bz? If not, I'm gonna give it to Goodwill. But if you don't want it in the future don't sell it or give it away, give it back to me."
Well, why not? WHy can't I sell it or give it away later? What if a month from now I have no use for it? What do I do? Stick it in a closet? Just cuz YOU got it for me? Do I keep it FOREVER??
I appreciate the thought and the generosity behind people giving me things or buying me gifts. I think I appreciate that way more than whatever the gift is. But why, if you don't want something anymore anyway, or you are giving a person a gift, why get offended if they pass it along to someone else, either for free or by selling it?
Why is it that when people give something away, they almost always want to make sure the person is going to use it in a way that THEY, the giver, think they should use it?
People always make wisecracks about me selling stuff. In fact, my neighbor was over yesterday, and saw me selling something online and smirked, "Dang, r00bz. You'd sell anything wouldn't you?"
And my reply to her was dead serious. I said, "As a matter of fact, I would. I'd sell just about anything. It's just STUFF. It comes and goes."

I know that some of you like to give gifts and you want that gift to really really mean something to the person you're giving it to. You want it to mean so much that they love it forever and never get rid of it because they can't bear to part with it it means so much. That is a wonderful sentiment that I truly apprieciate. But people, sometimes stuff is just stuff, and maybe we attach too much meaning to material objects when what means more is someone's motivation and relationship. And maybe at the same time, I need to find a way for things to mean more to me, I dunno. :nsm: I think maybe something is wrong with me.

PrometheusX303
October 14th 2005, 02:38 PM
This isn't just about selling lots of stuff, but about gift-giving too.
Ever since I was homeless for a short time back in 1999, I look at material things differently. They don't mean much to me in that, I don't hold onto them like some other people do. I'm constantly either selling stuff or giving it away. There are very very few things in my possession that I actually would not consider selling. I just don't attach anything to my material possessions anymore- at least not often- it's rare when I do. It's just stuff. To me, stuff comes, and stuff goes. It means nothing, and it could be gone tomorrow anyway.
This sounds really bad, but I'll be honest about it anyway: even photographs don't mean much to me anymore. I wouldn't sell pictures of my family or anything like that, but I don't have that emotional, nostalgic thingie that other people do when I look at them. It's like, since that experience a few years ago, I am almost completely detached emotionally from material objects. They are but a tool and nothing more.

Different experiences can affect people in different ways. My wife and I have been financially strained many times in the past two years. As a result, I have become a charity case. I always buy fund raiser items (doughnuts, candy, wallpaper...) when parents at work ask me. The only condition: I have to know where the money is going.
We have given away loads of furniture and other household items instead of holding on to them.

I never take payment when giving a person help, because people have helped me without asking.


But people always make wisecracks and comments to me about stuff that I sell. If a friend or family member doesn't want something anymore and offers it to me for free, they almost always attach the condition, "but you can't SELL IT, r00bz." or "You want this? You can have it, just don't SELL IT." "Here, I bought you this thing, rubia, cuz I knew you like this stuff. Now don't turn around a get rid of it later, ok?" Or here is the biggest one I hear, "I gotta get rid of this thing. It's in my way. You want it r00bz? If not, I'm gonna give it to Goodwill. But if you don't want it in the future don't sell it or give it away, give it back to me."
Well, why not? WHy can't I sell it or give it away later? What if a month from now I have no use for it? What do I do? Stick it in a closet? Just cuz YOU got it for me? Do I keep it FOREVER??

My in-laws do the same. They have given us furniture that they were going to throw away, but we were never allowed to even think about giving it to some one else when we no longer had use for it, or that person needed it more.

A gift is a gift. If you appreciate what you are given, that should be enough. As long as the person you give or sell it to later on as a need for it, I see no reason you should be required to keep it. Your motives are selfless. A rare thing today.


I appreciate the thought and the generosity behind people giving me things or buying me gifts. I think I appreciate that way more than whatever the gift is. But why, if you don't want something anymore anyway, or you are giving a person a gift, why get offended if they pass it along to someone else, either for free or by selling it?
Why is it that when people give something away, they almost always want to make sure the person is going to use it in a way that THEY, the giver, think they should use it?
People always make wisecracks about me selling stuff. In fact, my neighbor was over yesterday, and saw me selling something online and smirked, "Dang, r00bz. You'd sell anything wouldn't you?"
And my reply to her was dead serious. I said, "As a matter of fact, I would. I'd sell just about anything. It's just STUFF. It comes and goes."

Perhaps it is because they are giving you the gift not for your benefit, but for theirs. Another point for them. My in-laws seem to keep a tight list of everything they have ever help us, and they bring it up when they need something, or want to swing a disagreement their way, or something like that.

By giving that gift to some one else, you take those points away.


I know that some of you like to give gifts and you want that gift to really really mean something to the person you're giving it to. You want it to mean so much that they love it forever and never get rid of it because they can't bear to part with it it means so much. That is a wonderful sentiment that I truly apprieciate. But people, sometimes stuff is just stuff, and maybe we attach too much meaning to material objects when what means more is someone's motivation and relationship. And maybe at the same time, I need to find a way for things to mean more to me, I dunno. :nsm: I think maybe something is wrong with me.


I don't think there is anything wrong with it at all.

JardinPrayer
October 14th 2005, 03:02 PM
Girl, you are fine. It is ridiculous for someone to give you something BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT IT ANYMORE and still ask to retain partial ownership of it. They miss the point of GIVING! If it was presented as a gift in the spirit of gift giving, I can understand them having an emotional reaction to you not keeping it, but the fact is, once a gift is given, it does not belong to the giver any longer! When they give you those conditions, I would simply say, "Sure, I'll take it if you don't want it, but I'm not making any promises!" Or, you could always tell them you think you might ultimately sell it, so why don't they just give you cash instead of the item to save time!!!

As for the photos, this is the only place I felt for you. We're about to move out of state. I have 3 large Rubbermaid tubs FILLED with photos, photo albums, and framed photos from my walls that I WILL NOT TRUST to the movers...they are coming in the car with us along with other "precious items," like our personal financial files, my substantial candle collection (so they don't melt), Craig's guns, and our cats! Most people, if you ask them what one thing they would want to grab from their burning home will say, "my photos." They are irreplacable memories of bygone times. Perhaps you can rediscover the joy of that window into the past. I would wish that for you.

Piebald
October 14th 2005, 03:05 PM
I'm almost the opposite.. most everything that I own has memories attached to it, so giving away or selling an item is like selling, giving, or throwing away the memories attached to that item. Even if it's just something I'm used to seeing in my peripheral vision. I know that is not a very healthy or spiritual way to look at things, but it's my personality.

Teallaura
October 14th 2005, 05:41 PM
Is it wrong to sell things all the time?

Only if they don't belong to you....

andiwashere
October 14th 2005, 11:14 PM
I'm with ya. I don't like 'stuff' either (never have). My Mother-in-law bought us some nice towels once. They were rolled up and placed in a pretty basket. Two years later she came to visit and found the basket of towels in my storage closet. Geez, the look I got! I tried to explain...I liked the towels but I didn't know what to do with the basket. Besides demonstrating my obvious idiocy (I later figured out that I could take the towels out and discard the basket), I've lost a gift giver for life. People can be sooo sensitive.

We move a lot - and we give as much stuff away as possible before moving. It's easier then packing and moving the stuff. I have a 1972 set of World Book Encyclopedia, with annual additions up to aprox 1999. That's about the only thing, that I don't use regularly, that I wont give away.

Happily, most people know me well enough not to buy me things (like Mother-in-law now).

Also, there are a few interesting artifacts from my life that nobody would want, so I can't sell them and I can't give them away. They do help as conversation starters though - so they aren't totally useless. Except I have to dust them...:eek:


I dunno. :nsm: I think maybe something is wrong with me.

We're women and we don't like nick-nacks. :stunned: