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Ben Franklin
October 18th 2005, 05:22 AM
America's nightmare: Becoming Britain (http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/GJ01Dj01.html)

WASHINGTON - A combination of huge tax cuts, an insatiable appetite for foreign imports, especially oil, and record government spending is steadily eroding US independence and freedom of action, according to a "special report" released Thursday by the influential Council on Foreign Relations (CFR).

The report, entitled "Getting Serious About the Twin Deficits" calls for urgent measures to tackle serious challenges faced by the US economy, including reducing the government deficit by, among other steps, increasing taxes; reducing oil imports through the imposition of energy taxes or strict fuel efficiency standards; and managing a coordinated depreciation of the dollar vis-a-vis East Asian currencies.

Chinn's critique is not particularly new. The International Monetary Fund (IMF) voiced similar concerns at its annual meeting just last weekend, and fiscal conservatives within the Republican Party have displayed growing anxiety about the dollar's fate, particularly in the aftermath of Katrina. The CFR stressed that the new study represented Chinn's personal views only and not those of the organization. But the fact that the New York-based think tank, which has been seen since its creation shortly after World War II as the foreign policy bastion of US-based multinational corporate interests, commissioned and released the report is likely to be taken as a signal of Wall Street's growing unhappiness with Republican rule.

To address these threats, the report calls for a number of measures that will be very difficult for the administration to stomach. In particular, it calls for Bush to give up on making permanent the tax cuts of 2001 and 2003 and impose taxes on fossil fuels and/or meaningful fuel-efficiency standards to reduce consumption - steps the administration has so far steadfastly resisted. The study also called for eliminating the most costly provisions of the recently approved energy and transportation bills, which, according to critics, are laden with "pork" - that is, pet projects or other benefits that lawmakers take home to their constituencies or financial backers.

geochron
October 19th 2005, 06:23 PM
America's nightmare: Becoming Britain (http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/GJ01Dj01.html)

WASHINGTON - A combination of huge tax cuts, an insatiable appetite for foreign imports, especially oil, and record government spending is steadily eroding US independence and freedom of action, according to a "special report" released Thursday by the influential Council on Foreign Relations (CFR).

The report, entitled "Getting Serious About the Twin Deficits" calls for urgent measures to tackle serious challenges faced by the US economy, including reducing the government deficit by, among other steps, increasing taxes; reducing oil imports through the imposition of energy taxes or strict fuel efficiency standards; and managing a coordinated depreciation of the dollar vis-a-vis East Asian currencies.

Chinn's critique is not particularly new. The International Monetary Fund (IMF) voiced similar concerns at its annual meeting just last weekend, and fiscal conservatives within the Republican Party have displayed growing anxiety about the dollar's fate, particularly in the aftermath of Katrina. The CFR stressed that the new study represented Chinn's personal views only and not those of the organization. But the fact that the New York-based think tank, which has been seen since its creation shortly after World War II as the foreign policy bastion of US-based multinational corporate interests, commissioned and released the report is likely to be taken as a signal of Wall Street's growing unhappiness with Republican rule.

To address these threats, the report calls for a number of measures that will be very difficult for the administration to stomach. In particular, it calls for Bush to give up on making permanent the tax cuts of 2001 and 2003 and impose taxes on fossil fuels and/or meaningful fuel-efficiency standards to reduce consumption - steps the administration has so far steadfastly resisted. The study also called for eliminating the most costly provisions of the recently approved energy and transportation bills, which, according to critics, are laden with "pork" - that is, pet projects or other benefits that lawmakers take home to their constituencies or financial backers.

How very flattering :smile:

Of course Britain went from biggest creditor to biggest debtor in a good cause - fighting World War 2. What has the USA spent the money on?

CatholicSage
October 22nd 2005, 04:41 AM
How very flattering :smile:

Of course Britain went from biggest creditor to biggest debtor in a good cause - fighting World War 2. What has the USA spent the money on?

Communism and Islamic Extremism. All three sound like good investments to me.

Ben Franklin
October 22nd 2005, 05:20 AM
Communism and Islamic Extremism. All three sound like good investments to me.

Q. How do you fight Communism...?

A. Let it rot of it's own inefficiency.

Q. How do you fight Islamic Extremism...?

A. Stay out of it's self-destructive region.

As a Taoist, i propose that doing nothing accomplishes everything, and that the natural dysfunction in both of these theories causes self-extinguishment.

geochron
October 22nd 2005, 01:08 PM
Communism and Islamic Extremism. All three sound like good investments to me.

Presumably you meany fighting communism and Islamic extremism.

You don't think funding a massive consumer boom had something to do with it?

Ryokan
October 22nd 2005, 01:21 PM
I just don't buy the premise. It's basically saying that, because hobo's have no ties to other people, they are the most "free" and should be emulated. Sure, the US is dependant on oil producers. But it goes both ways. They are dependant on us to. No nation has complete freedom of action. Except maybe North Korea. Do you want to be like that?
As far as US deficits go.... Its a problem, but not going to cripple the US. Future deficits, and when I say future deficits I mean SS and Medicare, are what is scary.

Ben Franklin
October 22nd 2005, 01:33 PM
Well, the report does point out the overspending and the lack of revenue, and addresses what the committee felt could be done. Of course, Bush is resistant to impose heavy taxes because of the deleterious effect (killing investment capital), so something's gotta give: spending and/or services. Can't have you cake and eat it too: it's time to start paying the bills, Pa.

Ryokan
October 22nd 2005, 01:35 PM
Well, the report does point out the overspending and the lack of revenue, and addresses what the committee felt could be done. Of course, Bush is resistant to impose heavy taxes because of the deleterious effect (killing investment capital), so something's gotta give: spending and/or services. Can't have you cake and eat it too: it's time to start paying the bills, Pa.
Spending and services need to be restructed, and reduced for the wealthy and upper middle class.

Ben Franklin
October 22nd 2005, 02:35 PM
Spending and services need to be restructed, and reduced for the wealthy and upper middle class.

Agreed. But to be fair, they should be exempted from Medicare tax, or their Medicare withheld should be reimbursed for money they spent on health care. What do you think...? Since the wealthy don't contribute all that much (as a percentage) to Medicare (there is a cap of $90,000 taxable, right...?) it won't wreck the system, I think.