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Ethos
June 26th 2003, 06:45 PM
I believe in predestination to a point- I believe That God created each and every one of us to serve a certain purpose, but we do have the free will to walk away from it, and oftentimes get lost from it, thus taking our purpose in this life away from us.

That is Satans number one goal when it comes to mankind- Leading us astray from our purpose here. It is up to us to stay on the right path that God created for us to follow upon our birth.

Fine examples of people who have been led astray by the devil, through the world, exist all around us in society today.. Hence the bible passage:

"Enter by the Narrow Gate: For the gate is wide, and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and many are those who enter by it.
For the gate is small, and the way is narrow that leads to life, and few are those who find it."
Matthew 19:24

In short, yes, I do believe that God predestined a path for each and every one of us to journey along in this life, while at the same time throwing a challenge into the mix by also giving us free will to decide which road to follow.

One (Gods)road leads to life, and the other (Satans, the world) to death.. It's our own personal choice which road to follow, but once this trial called life is over, we can't change our mind, or try again, just as we can't change the ultimate destination of either one...

Any thoughts for or against this?

Dee Dee Warren
June 26th 2003, 06:46 PM
I just wanted to say HI

Ethos
June 26th 2003, 06:47 PM
Today @ 04:46 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=133517#post133517)
Dee Dee Warren:

I just wanted to say HI

Thanks! Hi Dee dee! Good to hear from you. I hope that you're having a grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreat week!! God Bless you.

Chappie
October 6th 2004, 01:41 PM
I believe in predestination to a point- I believe That God created each and every one of us to serve a certain purpose, but we do have the free will to walk away from it, and oftentimes get lost from it, thus taking our purpose in this life away from us.

That is Satan’s number one goal when it comes to mankind- Leading us astray from our purpose here. It is up to us to stay on the right path that God created for us to follow upon our birth.

To say that you believe in predestination to a point is the same as saying that you do not believe in predestination. Unless modified by context, the full force of the word must be used. And when we consider the truth that predestination is actually an expression of power, we must accept that what God says will be, will be….

God has predetermined the confirmation of those that believe into the image of Christ. Satan cannot undo that which God has predetermined….

28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?
32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.


Fine examples of people who have been led astray by the devil, through the world, exist all around us in society today.. Hence the bible passage:

Satan cannot separate the believer from the love of God. Predestination means that God has predetermined the conformation of the believer into the image of Christ. Nothing, nor no one can change that…..