Win-Ace

[Dee Dee Warren]

I am heavy-hearted to bring you the news that I received that Win Ace has passed away - here is what I received:


It is with great sadness that I must report that Allan died in the hospital this morning, surrounded by the people who loved him most. An announcement from Jessica's mother can be found here:

http://www.save-allan.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=149

My deepest condolences to Jessica, Allan's family and friends. :(

Tom (viscousmemories)

Win Ace and I got into some heated discussion, but he was always very well liked in my heart, and was the subject of my prayers. Though it is not that unusual as I am an emotional person, I did cry to learn of his death.

Any money given to the foundation for WinAce will go to others in similar dire transplant circumstances.

[Piebald]

This is an awful, awful tragedy. I can't say how awful this makes me feel.

[Dee Dee Warren]

Yes it is, and now just staring out the window, even though people die every day, he and I had some personal conversations on faith, and he was a nice guy - it is hard to just bop around today as normal. Death is so abstract until it is someone you "know."

[Amazing Rando]

:sad:

Ug. That's awful... 20 years old?

[Ryokan]

I don't ewven know what to say.

[mossrose]

Will be praying for his family.

:sad:

[Minnesota]

What a waste. What a very sad waste. We should all be thankful we've made it as far as we have no matter what tribulations we may have under gone. My sympathies to his family and those who share in this loss. :frown:

[Warcraft3]

:sad:

Very sad.....

I do not think I will be able to keep myself from crying over this.

My prayers and thoughts are with the families and friends.

[Raptor]

:sad:

I'm sorry to hear this. My condolences to his family and friends.

[A Cup of No]

I am heavy hearted.

[Sparko]

wow. that shocked me.

I didn't really know him but when I read about his plight I felt for him and decided to help a little.

I am very sad to hear he has died, I was really pulling for him. It reminds me that none of us know how much time we have.

[flipper]

*sigh* I didn't know the lad, but I read about him on his web page.

It is a shame he was hung out to dry by his insurance company. However, he seems to have grabbed life with both hands while he had it, and now he is once again returned to The Great Mystery. I am sorrowful for the pain of those he as left behind, and hope that healing is quick and the memories are fond.

[Xavier]

:frown:

[Rayado]

:frown:

[Rubia Warren]

Oh my God. I just hate Cystic Fibrosis. :bawl:

[$cirisme]

I'm not very good at this kind of stuff, but I am saddened to hear the news that he has passed away.

My thoughts and prayers are with his family.

[Rubia Warren]

I posted this in the other thread, so I will post it here, too.
Cystic Fibrosis is a disease that is affecting many people-- there are a ton more WinAces out there battling this disease. Some members even here at TWeb have it, and my 17 year-old brother has it. The gene that causes the disease has been identified and many treatments are in experimental stages. If ever you have felt like giving to a charity, or you feel like giving to one, please visit the cystic fibrosis foundation's website. There is much promise that they will soon either find a cure, or at least find better treatments. Please visit their website and do as much as you can so that they may have more funds for research. Too many WinAce's have suffered and passed away already.
http://www.cff.org/home/

[Dee Dee Warren]

The death of somone you know even only briefly is hard. I was going through my PM box today, and there are the earlier PMs from him.... it is so hard to believe he is gone. I had the similar feeling with Marc Schindler (from our early days - a very gentle Mormon) and more recently Ted's father Lion.

I am thinking that perhaps for members of our community that have passed away perhaps we could have a memorial section?

I am also trying to find out the details (please someone PM me if they know) of the memorial service so that perhaps we can send flowers on behalf of the site.

[kiwimac]

The death of somone you know even only briefly is hard. I was going through my PM box today, and there are the earlier PMs from him.... it is so hard to believe he is gone. I had the similar feeling with Marc Schindler (from our early days - a very gentle Mormon) and more recently Ted's father Lion.

I am thinking that perhaps for members of our community that have passed away perhaps we could have a memorial section?

I am also trying to find out the details (please someone PM me if they know) of the memorial service so that perhaps we can send flowers on behalf of the site.

VERY GOOD IDEA Dee Dee. I didn't know Marc had passed away until I read your comment above. May the Compassionate & Wise Lord be with their families and friends.

Kiwimac

[Dee Dee Warren]

VERY GOOD IDEA Dee Dee. I didn't know Marc had passed away until I read your comment above. May the Compassionate & Wise Lord be with their families and friends.

Kiwimac

Yes Marc passed away a long time ago. I knew he was very sick, we had a personal email friendship. I wrote to the webmaster of the site that was raising monies for Allan and inquired about memorial information.

Here is a picture that was posted in a memorial thread on that site - Allan and his love Jessica

[learning]

Thanks for that picture and news, Dee Dee. I am so sorry to hear this, but glad he knew love of family, a sweetheart and God in the short time he was here. He looks wise beyond his years, but disease does that to many.

There's a post in the Natural Science section, of how they have been able to insert some gene in mice with phenylketonuria, and heal those mice. I'll see if I can find it. It is not the same disease, but it is a genetic disease, and though it may take 25 or more years for the same to be done for humans, it is a good sign, and one of hope I wish to share. Hopefully they'll be able to speed things up. They are a little afraid to do gene things with humans, as with the one man they did so something with, (something to do with bone, I think) they say he died quite quickly, so they are more cautious with gene therapy. But they say we are close (in many ways) to the gene thing in mice, so it may work, this gene insertion thing for healing.

http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showthread.php?t=63550

Other good news, I know of a christian scientist, his name is Kenneth Miller, he works with cells in studying them. I asked him once by e-mail, if it was true that our genes were not set until 2 to 4 years (someone had said this on another forum, trying to relate something with humans and chimps but was mistaken) I said that I wondered if it would be possible to cure birth defects in babies born before that age. He said it was not true, except for some minor immunity things, our genes are set once the egg and sperm meet in the womb. But, he was also interested, as he had a relative with cerebral palsy, in helping those with birth defects. He is a well known scientist, he took the time a few years ago to write to me, a nobody, and I am so thankful we have people like him working in science. It truly gives me some hope.

Of course, our hope is in God, but I do believe He wants us to carry on the best we can and help the best we can.

Prayers with Allan's family and those here who knew him.

[Abigail]

I am very sorry to read about Winace.

[ApologiaPhoenix]

My prayers as well. The more you miss something or someone when they're gone is proportionate to the attachment you had to them.

[lee_merrill]

This is sad to hear, "People Need the Lord"...

In Christ,
Lee

[TheFiveSolas]

This tragedy highlights the fact that, as the bible states, death is an enemy, and not a normal natural part of this world (i.e., it's not the way things are supposed to be).

[Minnesota]

Allan's death is not only felt by those of us at Tweb but at other sites on the web as well. Here are 256 more notes of regret and condolence from one of these. smiley click here (http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=142688)

[Darth Executor]

Allan's death is not only felt by those of us at Tweb but at other sites on the web as well. Here are 256 more notes of regret and condolence from one of these. smiley click here (http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=142688)

You need an iidb account to read those. I was wondering why the infidels didn't have a topic about it this morning...

[Richbee]

Allan's death is not only felt by those of us at Tweb but at other sites on the web as well. Here are 256 more notes of regret and condolence from one of these. smiley click here (http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=142688)

Was Allan an Infidel? Atheist?

The Chaplains office is for encourgement and pray.

[Spiritus Naturae]

I posted this over in "Apologetics" but thought it more appropriate here. Also, I really didnt realize he was so young. Humbling how being faced with mortality can make us wise beyond years.

This is sad news. I have read his posts over the course of my time here and always found them a good read, even if I didn't agree. He was well read and his posts reflected that. This is certainly a tigh-knit community, one of the main reasons why I signed on and encourage others to do so as well, and the loss of any one of us will be, and should be, felt, recognized and remembered.

May God give his family and friends rest and comfort.

"Now cracks a noble heart. Good night sweet prince,
And flights of angels sing thee to thy rest!"

Jonathan

[Minnesota]

You need an iidb account to read those.

I wasn't aware of that. Suffice it to say then, the sentiments at iidb mirror those expressed here. Allan was very well liked and respected over there, and will be deeply missed.

[RumTumTugger]

Just a reminder here folks this is the Chaplains office not the Lockerroom. Please keep your posts respectful and encourging

[Conductor42]

To absent friends, in memory still bright.

[Warcraft3]

This tragedy highlights the fact that, as the bible states, death is an enemy, and not a normal natural part of this world (i.e., it's not the way things are supposed to be).


I will be reporting this post.

This thread is about someone we cared about who passed away....it is not a thread to use so you can make comments related to your interpretation of Genesis.

You should be ashamed.

[Jezz]

What a waste. What a very sad waste. We should all be thankful we've made it as far as we have no matter what tribulations we may have under gone.
Hmm, I have mixed sympathies about the above thoughts.

I certainly agree we should be thankful we've made it as far as we have. I think that this is perhaps the most significant thing anyone has said in this thread, Minn. Life is a precious gift - and this is true no matter how long (or short it is). Whether it be 9 months or 90 years.

It is for this reason I feel less inclined to agree with the first sentence. I can understand the sadness. Like many others, I was fond of Allan, and I had my fair share of good-hearted run-ins with him back when I used to spend my TWeb time mainly in Apologetics. I will miss him, I will pray for him and for his family, and I'm especially sorry that I didn't make the effort to reach out to him more recently, knowing what he was going through. However, while feeling saddened at his death, let us not forget to celebrate his life - which (even at 20 years) was still a precious gift. I know that he played a significant part in forming the person that I am today, and I am guessing by the response here and elsewhere that I am not the only one. His life may have been shorter than average, but it was most certainly not a waste.

[One Bad Pig]

:sad:

[Minnesota]

Jezz,

I understand where you're coming from and agree that Allan's contribution to life should in no way be minimized. However, this is not what I had in mind by my remark, but rather his potential, which was cut short and wasted by death. Whether or not we agreed with Allan, I think we all saw an honest and honorable person who had at least 60 years of good still left in him, something this world is in very short supply of.

[Roy]

:candle:

[Richbee]

I will be reporting this post.

This thread is about someone we cared about who passed away....it is not a thread to use so you can make comments related to your interpretation of Genesis.

You should be ashamed.

Was WinAce "known"? Who knew WinAce? Is there a thread or posts that I could read to gain some insight here. With respect and compassion, thank you.

[Pilgrim]

This is not a debate thread. Please refrain from debate and argumentation.