Recently a New Mexico Sheriff and his entire police force were relieved of their duty because the sheriff attended a meeting of the CSPOA (Constitutional Sheriffs and Policy Officers Association). See Chief of Police Harassed by Feds, Placed on Leave After Signing Pledge to Uphold Constitution . Evidently a member of the TSA (Transportation Safety Administration (part of Homeland Security)) detained the sheriff on his way to a convention of the CSPOA. The sheriff did have a name change in his recent history and after being detained for 25 minutes he was allowed to go with no charges. However, upon returning to New Mexico, another sheriff put him and his department on administrative leave because of his POLITICAL AFFILIATIONS. Evidently someone doesn't agree with our sheriffs wanting to uphold the constitution. There is another article that is interesting in this case: Number Of Nation's Sheriffs Refusing To Enforce Unconstitutional Gun Laws Snowballs. Isn't it interesting that our everyday police officers have to organize to try and keep their vow to uphold the constitution. Obviously there are forces at work in the Federal Government that are pushing these men and women who are dedicated to upholding the constitution to do otherwise. To learn more about the CSPOA go to their website at: http://cspoa.org/cspoa-jan-2014-resolution/
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The CSPOA does not promote "upholding the Constitution." They promote upholding a particular, selective, and somewhat dishonest interpretation of the Constitution, and promote unconstitutional schemes such as nullification. Mack himself has supported the assertion that a state has the right to secede, contrary to Texas v. White, 74 U.S. 700.
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I'm dubious of the part where "another Sheriff" put him and his department on admin leave... perhaps this is the common misconception that a deputy sheriff is a "sheriff" because he wears that name on his jacket, or drives a "Sheriff" car. I can't imagine a Sheriff (one per county or parish) having jurisdiction over another Sheriff.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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OK, it looks like maybe you're using "Sheriff" and "Police Chief" interchangeably --- not the same thing at all.
See Chief of Police Harassed by Feds, Placed on Leave After Signing Pledge to Uphold Constitution . Evidently a member of the TSA (Transportation Safety Administration (part of Homeland Security)) detained the sheriff on his way to a convention of the CSPOA.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI'm dubious of the part where "another Sheriff" put him and his department on admin leave... perhaps this is the common misconception that a deputy sheriff is a "sheriff" because he wears that name on his jacket, or drives a "Sheriff" car. I can't imagine a Sheriff (one per county or parish) having jurisdiction over another Sheriff.
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Originally posted by Outis View PostThe CSPOA does not promote "upholding the Constitution." They promote upholding a particular, selective, and somewhat dishonest interpretation of the Constitution, and promote unconstitutional schemes such as nullification. Mack himself has supported the assertion that a state has the right to secede, contrary to Texas v. White, 74 U.S. 700.
Here is an interesting video to watch regarding nullification: Thomas Woods speaks on Nullification at Nullify Now Los AngelesLast edited by onefour1; 02-08-2014, 04:36 PM.
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From local Channel 7 News:
"It is our understanding that he had a boarding pass under Shane Harger and his driver's license indicated Braxton Haze," Lt. Keith Elder said.
Elder said that obviously made TSA agents suspicious. When Harger took his job with Jemez Springs, he was on a commission to assist the Sandoval County Sheriff's Office in protection of its citizens, but that's now over.
"So when that information came out that there was a difference in identity, the sheriff asked Chief Harger to surrender his special commission that is issued by the sheriff's office, and Chief Harger did that voluntarily," Elder said. "He is an employee of the Jemez Springs Village. The governing body of that village would have to take whatever actions they see appropriate concerning his employment."
Despite the controversy, Harger or Haze is still considered a legitimate, certified law enforcement officer in New Mexico.
Read more: http://www.koat.com/news/new-mexico/...#ixzz2slyKVoWp
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It is disingenuous (and I know that's not your intent, 141) to use a scrambled up case like this to make a point.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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States do, at least theoretically, have the right to secede from the union. The procedure is simple--just as the several states individually petitioned Congress to join the union, they must petition the Congress to leave it. It has never been done, but the doing so would not be impossible.
States can _attempt_ to leave the union by unilateral declaration ... but that's been tried before. Didn't seem to work out too well.
I do not respond to arguments by link, and refuse to give Dr. Woods the time of day on general principle. Nullification is a settled issue. So is secession by any means but petition.
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I used to be detained routinely at TSA checkpoints. I finally had a very polite (and "grown up") TSA screener, and I took the gamble to ask "what, exactly, is it that makes me get extra screening every single time?" He paused a second, then replied, "your flight documents show your informal first name, but your identification shows your formal first name". I asked -- "THAT'S IT?" He said, "yeah, change your frequent flier info, and you'll be fine".
Sure enough, I called Continental Airlines, changed my first name to my "formal" first name (Bovine instead of Cow ) and was amazed that I almost NEVER get stopped anymore --- "clear sailing" (or flying)
The Sheriff in question had, in fact, two completely different names.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostThe Sheriff in question had, in fact, two completely different names.
And the reason for two names is quite straightforward. He was involved with an earlier case where he received some death threats. http://www.abqjournal.com/news/metro...ro05-15-11.htm
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Originally posted by Outis View PostAgain, he is a police chief, not a sheriff. Though it is easy and understandable why such an error would be made.
And the reason for two names is quite straightforward. He was involved with an earlier case where he received some death threats. http://www.abqjournal.com/news/metro...ro05-15-11.htmThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostThat may be a fact, but not an excuse. Was TSA aware of that? Were they reasonably expected to know that?
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Originally posted by Outis View PostI highly doubt that the TSA was aware of that, nor could they reasonably be expected to know. It's not like they have a database of name changes for people who legally change their names for perfectly good reasons. And name changes/false names are one of the things on the "Flag this person" list, for good or ill.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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