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nico
02-08-2014, 02:00 PM
Human beings. Discuss.

nico
02-08-2014, 02:01 PM
They have two legs. Usually. They can be odd sometimes. Even speak and listen to themselves when no one else is around.

Jedidiah
02-08-2014, 04:06 PM
I is one.

Christianbookworm
02-08-2014, 04:11 PM
Smart enough to get in a lot of trouble. Not always able to get out of it.

Christianbookworm
02-08-2014, 05:14 PM
And we like to play! But we don't make good pets, do we?

shunyadragon
02-08-2014, 06:15 PM
Gradually human over time, and still becoming human.

Jedidiah
02-08-2014, 10:45 PM
I have been fully human since before I was born. I have grown physically, mentally and spiritually, but I have always been fully a human being.

firstfloor
02-09-2014, 05:05 AM
Human being - a simian primate (hominin) taxonomically grouped with monkeys and apes.

Christianbookworm
02-09-2014, 05:44 AM
Mammal!

Paprika
02-09-2014, 05:51 AM
Featherless bipeds.

Cerealman
02-09-2014, 11:43 AM
We- I mean the adolescent versions yolo.

nico
02-10-2014, 03:15 PM
They like bacon to the detriment of their health. Especially the moist, semi-crunchy kind cooked with a drizzle of maple syrup.

Christianbookworm
02-10-2014, 07:59 PM
Most dangerous animal on Earth, or so I've heard.

nico
02-11-2014, 02:18 PM
Most dangerous animal on Earth, or so I've heard.

Sounds formidable...

Christianbookworm
02-11-2014, 02:20 PM
Why are humans considered to be the most dangerous animal? Our brains? We can defeat anything with prep time(batman joke)?

shunyadragon
02-11-2014, 04:55 PM
Why are humans considered to be the most dangerous animal? Our brains? We can defeat anything with prep time(batman joke)?

We are the most destructive to environment then any other species in the history of life. Human are one specie extinction event as destructive of a huge meteor impact.

We are the first to over populate the earth. Actually our effect on the earth and the rest of the life is something like cancer.

We are the only species to make war on ourselves on a massive scale. Possibly to the point of possibly driving us to extinction.

Christianbookworm
02-12-2014, 09:55 PM
That's the species as a whole. How many individuals are dangerous? Depends?

nico
02-13-2014, 03:13 PM
We are the most destructive to environment then any other species in the history of life. Human are one specie extinction event as destructive of a huge meteor impact.

We are the first to over populate the earth. Actually our effect on the earth and the rest of the life is something like cancer.

We are the only species to make war on ourselves on a massive scale. Possibly to the point of possibly driving us to extinction.

Well, they don't sound very kosher do they? How about this though, every other species on the plant has zero diplomatic relations. Families/clans attack one another on sight for no apparent reason. They could all just work together but instead they kill without prejudice. At least humans try, right? Or if they kill it's often driven by hate rather than directive. I couldn't imagine a much better scenario if lions were to suddenly acquire a human intellect. Goodness, they'd round up all living and eat them 53 days flat. End of story.

shunyadragon
02-13-2014, 03:41 PM
That's the species as a whole. How many individuals are dangerous? Depends?

Yes, the whole species! There are no angels!

Carrikature
02-13-2014, 06:02 PM
Well, they don't sound very kosher do they? How about this though, every other species on the plant has zero diplomatic relations. Families/clans attack one another on sight for no apparent reason. They could all just work together but instead they kill without prejudice. At least humans try, right? Or if they kill it's often driven by hate rather than directive. I couldn't imagine a much better scenario if lions were to suddenly acquire a human intellect. Goodness, they'd round up all living and eat them 53 days flat. End of story.

You're kidding, right? Some species don't even have the ability to kill each other. Killing is seldom done through hate, if ever. Lions rarely kill wantonly like you suggest. Elephants have very real social hierarchies that include other families. You're waaay off the mark.

nico
02-13-2014, 08:37 PM
You're kidding, right? Some species don't even have the ability to kill each other. Killing is seldom done through hate, if ever. Lions rarely kill wantonly like you suggest. Elephants have very real social hierarchies that include other families. You're waaay off the mark.

Oh boy...here we go. I said "directive" sir, read above, specifically not hate. Anyway, I haven't said enough on the subject for your opinion about my off the markness to mean much. Good day to you, and feel free to add to how cancerous humans are.

Christianbookworm
02-13-2014, 08:43 PM
Sound's like Ra's ah Gul... except without the reduce the population by 90%.

Carrikature
02-13-2014, 09:12 PM
Anyway, I haven't said enough on the subject for your opinion about my off the markness to mean much.

You've said more than enough. Let's recap:



How about this though, every other species on the plant has zero diplomatic relations.

This is false. I've already mentioned elephants. Chimps, bonobos, dolphins, lions, and other species all have fission-fusion societies where members may split into smaller groups or leave to join another group only to return later.



Families/clans attack one another on sight for no apparent reason.

This too is false. No apparent reason? Even disputes over territory are a reason, and they're not that hard to see. It's not accurate that all families/clans attack one another on sight, either.



They could all just work together but instead they kill without prejudice.

Except that most cases where they do kill are either rivals or the offspring of rivals. That's not without prejudice. Further, examples of altruism in animals have been amply documented.



I couldn't imagine a much better scenario if lions were to suddenly acquire a human intellect. Goodness, they'd round up all living and eat them 53 days flat. End of story.

This is silly, too. Lions don't just eat everything in sight. There's no reason whatsoever to suggest that acquiring an intellect would cause them to suddenly gorge themselves. This mostly sounds like so much hyperbole.

Carrikature
02-13-2014, 09:14 PM
Oh boy...here we go. I said "directive" sir, read above, specifically not hate.

You're right, I misread it. My mistake.

nico
02-14-2014, 01:40 AM
You've said more than enough. Let's recap:




This is false. I've already mentioned elephants. Chimps, bonobos, dolphins, lions, and other species all have fission-fusion societies where members may split into smaller groups or leave to join another group only to return later.




This too is false. No apparent reason? Even disputes over territory are a reason, and they're not that hard to see. It's not accurate that all families/clans attack one another on sight, either.




Except that most cases where they do kill are either rivals or the offspring of rivals. That's not without prejudice. Further, examples of altruism in animals have been amply documented.




This is silly, too. Lions don't just eat everything in sight. There's no reason whatsoever to suggest that acquiring an intellect would cause them to suddenly gorge themselves. This mostly sounds like so much hyperbole.

Human beings make much ado about nothing.

Also, I stand by what I said. 53 days flat, if not before.

shunyadragon
02-16-2014, 04:02 PM
Well, they don't sound very kosher do they? How about this though, every other species on the plant has zero diplomatic relations. Families/clans attack one another on sight for no apparent reason. They could all just work together but instead they kill without prejudice. At least humans try, right? Or if they kill it's often driven by hate rather than directive. I couldn't imagine a much better scenario if lions were to suddenly acquire a human intellect. Goodness, they'd round up all living and eat them 53 days flat. End of story.

This needs more explanation, and reasonable description of natural behavior of different species. Avoid hypothetical stuff, and offer more real references on animal behavior. The only animals other then humans that are known to attack in clans or families their own kind are our closest living relatives, chimpanzees. Some animals do selectively kill their own in individual combat like stallion horses. Some species have male infanticide of the competing offspring from other males.

nico
02-20-2014, 04:02 PM
This needs more explanation, and reasonable description of natural behavior of different species. Avoid hypothetical stuff, and offer more real references on animal behavior. The only animals other then humans that are known to attack in clans or families their own kind are our closest living relatives, chimpanzees. Some animals do selectively kill their own in individual combat like stallion horses. Some species have male infanticide of the competing offspring from other males.

It's a quasi-parody thread. I thought it was kind of obvious. It was never meant to make convincing arguments. You know...partially uniformed tidbits about life mixed in with exaggerated conclusions. I wasn't actually saying that families kill from within, grammar ambiguities I guess, but families kill other families, etc, etc, as opposed to, say, bringing them a leg, or a liver, to welcome them into the neighborhood instead. But, if you insist, feel free to argue the superior merits of virtue in the animal kingdom. Could be interesting?

Christianbookworm
02-20-2014, 04:12 PM
Are we to pretend a alien/robot/animal view of humans???
polar/grizzly Bear: small crunchy creatures. slow and yummy. Can shoot back.
Great White Shark: tried them, too bony

shunyadragon
02-21-2014, 07:20 PM
What would be the attributes that would classify a primate as human? Homo Sapiens Sapiens are indeed human, recent discovery and research has broadened the definition. The following would be attributes of humans: (1) Bipedal locomotion. (2) Manual Dexterity. (3) A larger complex brain. (4) Tool making. Maybe add (5) Capable of speech?

If you consider these attributes, a number of our ancestors older then Homo Sapiens Sapiens could possibly be considered human such as: Homo sapiens neanderthalensis and possibly Homo (sapien?) antecessor.

nico
02-22-2014, 09:56 AM
What would be the attributes that would classify a primate as human? Homo Sapiens Sapiens are indeed human, recent discovery and research has broadened the definition. The following would be attributes of humans: (1) Bipedal locomotion. (2) Manual Dexterity. (3) A larger complex brain. (4) Tool making. Maybe add (5) Capable of speech?

If you consider these attributes, a number of our ancestors older then Homo Sapiens Sapiens could possibly be considered human such as: Homo sapiens neanderthalensis and possibly Homo (sapien?) antecessor.

You forgot sexual reproduction. How could you forget that? I'll let it slide...

shunyadragon
02-22-2014, 02:23 PM
It's a quasi-parody thread. I thought it was kind of obvious. It was never meant to make convincing arguments. You know...partially uniformed tidbits about life mixed in with exaggerated conclusions. I wasn't actually saying that families kill from within, grammar ambiguities I guess, but families kill other families, etc, etc, as opposed to, say, bringing them a leg, or a liver, to welcome them into the neighborhood instead. But, if you insist, feel free to argue the superior merits of virtue in the animal kingdom. Could be interesting?


quasi-parody? If so send it to the poop deck. If not, the thread question is a valid question. What does it mean to be human?

37818
01-07-2016, 06:40 PM
To be made in God's image of being a creative creature.

shunyadragon
01-08-2016, 04:21 PM
Well, they don't sound very kosher do they? How about this though, every other species on the plant has zero diplomatic relations. Families/clans attack one another on sight for no apparent reason. They could all just work together but instead they kill without prejudice. At least humans try, right? Or if they kill it's often driven by hate rather than directive. I couldn't imagine a much better scenario if lions were to suddenly acquire a human intellect. Goodness, they'd round up all living and eat them 53 days flat. End of story.

Note highlighted above: The reality of genetic studies of the diverse variety of human variations is that different human tribes and clans made more love with each other than war. We are a product of hybridization of many varieties including Neanderthal.

Jedidiah
01-08-2016, 05:57 PM
Why are humans considered to be the most dangerous animal? Our brains? We can defeat anything with prep time(batman joke)?

Human beings in prime shape are pretty dangerous physically. They can outrun a horse over the long run, even though a horse will leave them behind in the short run. A friend of mine killed a Kodiak Brown Bear with a knife and walked away, he still survives. Men have been attacked by big cats and killed them.

shunyadragon
12-06-2018, 04:22 AM
It's a quasi-parody thread. I thought it was kind of obvious. It was never meant to make convincing arguments. You know...partially uniformed tidbits about life mixed in with exaggerated conclusions. I wasn't actually saying that families kill from within, grammar ambiguities I guess, but families kill other families, etc, etc, as opposed to, say, bringing them a leg, or a liver, to welcome them into the neighborhood instead. But, if you insist, feel free to argue the superior merits of virtue in the animal kingdom. Could be interesting?

Not obvious at all.
Then why put this thread here where it would belong in the "Padded Room"

Anthropology 201 is not the place for a parody thread