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Exmo-Robertson
July 9th 2003, 02:00 PM
According to Eternal Mormon Doctrine (latter-day prophets and current Mormon scripture), couples sealed in the temple will NOT be together in the celestial kingdom, unless they "do the works of Abraham." The Abrahamic blessing given in the temple ceremony is conditional on obedience to the "works of Abraham" as contained in the holy scriptures. See D&C 132: 31-34.

How ironic, that even after paying tithing, the gospel's eternal principles dictate that today's temple marriages end at death. Few Mormons realize this, but read on:

Teaching to the Saints from the pulpit. The Prophet Brigham Young taught:

"Now, when a man in this Church says, `I don't want but one wife; I will live my religion with one,' he will perhaps be saved in the celestial kingdom, but when he gets there, he will not find himself in possession of any wife at all! He has had a talent that he has hid up. He will come forth and say, `Here is that which thou gavest me; I have not wasted it and here is the one talent,' and he will not enjoy it, but it will be taken from him and given to those who have improved the talent they received, and he will find himself without ANY wife, and he will remain single forever and ever." Read D&C 132:53-55

"But if the woman is determined to not enter into plural marriage, that woman, when she comes forth, will have the privilege of living in single blessedness through all eternity. Now sisters, do not say, `I do not want a husband when I get up in the resurrection.' You do not know what you will want. If, in the resurrection, you really want to be single and alone and live forever and ever and be made servants, while others receive the higher order of intelligence, and are bringing worlds into existence, you can have the privilege. They who will be exalted cannot perform all the labor, they must have servants, and you can be servants to them." See D&C 132:64-65

"Few, if any, of the temple marriages have been made binding upon the Lord by the participants fulfilling their vow and covenant, 'to fulfill all the laws, rites and ordinances pertaining to this holy matrimony in the new and everlasting covenant.' This means obeying the law of Abraham and Sarah as set forth in the Holy Scriptures (D&C Sections 131 and 132, especially verse 34). Without compliance to this law upon which eternal marriage is predicated, you will get about as far as anyone married outside the temple. The Lord says, "I the Lord am bound when ye do what I say, but when ye do not what I say, ye have no promise." See D&C 82:103

(Journal of Discourses, Vol. 16, p. 167)

The Prophet also taught:
"The only men who become Gods, even the Sons of God, are those who enter into polygamy."
(Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, Vol 11, p. 269)

Note: The 1890 Manifesto may have rescinded the practice of polygamy, but the doctrine and guiding principles for exaltation remain the same as they did when the gospel was restored to Joseph Smith. The principles governing the eternal doctrine of Celestial Marriage have not and cannot change.

John Powell
July 11th 2003, 12:36 AM
JOHN MORMON:
Is circumcision still required for entrance into God's true Church, Exmo-Robertson? If you agree that that's no longer a requirement then why can't things like polygamy have limited use, was a requirement for a while, but isn't now?

John Powell

Exmo-Robertson
July 11th 2003, 01:35 AM
Today @ 05:36 AM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=146213#post146213)
John Powell:

JOHN MORMON:
Is circumcision still required for entrance into God's true Church, Exmo-Robertson? If you agree that that's no longer a requirement then why can't things like polygamy have limited use, was a requirement for a while, but isn't now?

John Powell


I debate this in relation to the LDS teaching that they are the restored Church. Nowhere in the Bible do we find God comanding his people to pratice polygamy in order to receive their salvation. You may have had some who did it, but not as a condition of salvation.

John Powell
July 11th 2003, 02:00 AM
EXMO-ROBERTSON:
I debate this in relation to the LDS teaching that they are the restored Church. Nowhere in the Bible do we find God comanding his people to pratice polygamy in order to receive their salvation. You may have had some who did it, but not as a condition of salvation.


JOHN MORMON:
It's based on the common sense notion that if God says "jump" you ask "how high?" If God says "Joseph, be a polygamist." Joseph says "Ok, Lord, but Emma won't be happy." God says, "You should be more concerned whether I'm happy with you than whether Emma is happy with you."

If God says "No more plural marriages." The prophet says "Ok, Lord, but some members will continue doing it anyways." God says "Then excommunicate them."

The common Christian doctrine that one can be saved in God's heaven, yet disobey God's commandments, is one that is difficult for me to understand. Perhaps you can explain.

How long do you think God would put up with all these "saved" Christians if they were to refuse to do anything He commands them to do today? "Sorry, Lord, I don't have to obey you because I'm already saved. Maybe I'll help you out another day if I feel like it."

I don't understand this.

John Powell