Beginning Greek

[Sher]

Always on the lookout for new learning tools, I found this website (http://cc.cumber.edu/acad/biblang/bibgreek/greek/letters.htm) today ... and decided to share. This really is rather cool :cool: I've bookmarked it to start my teen on Greek early ... and to begin to learn it myself.

Welcome to Writing Greek Letters! This page uses Flash animations to show you how correctly to write and pronounce the names of characters in the biblical Greek alphabet.
:thumb::thumb:

:shersig:

[Bib Lit Major]

I wish you the best on your quest to learn Greek, Sher! There may be times when you want to give up, and for the first year or so, you may not see much fruit from your endeavor, but keep learning and don't get discouraged! Greek will pay high dividends the further down the road you go. I have that as the consistent witness of the profs that have taught me Greek thus far, and I am beginning to see that their witness was true.

Kevin

[$cirisme]

I've been trying to learn Greek... but I am soooo lost.

[Jaltus]

Cir,

Feel free to PM me or e-mail me and I will help you in any way I can.

Do you have the Bibleworks 4.0 font? If so, I can e-mail you the sheets I use when I teach. My students say that it helps them a ton.

[Bill the Cat]

Hey Jaltus, can you email them to me too?? I know the characters, and can read the words, but putting them together into sentences is where I get stuck. I hate grammar in ALL languages.

[Bill the Cat]

Sher, check your PM. I sent you something that may help, but I can't give to the public

[Jaltus]

Do you have Bibleworks 4.0 Greek font? You can download it from their site for free. If you do not have it, I can just e-mail it to you also.

[Sher]

Today @ 11:18 AM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=150085#post150085)
Bill the Cat:

Sher, check your PM. I sent you something that may help, but I can't give to the public

Thanks Bill ... that was very sweet of you :smile:

:shersig: always happy for any and all assistance!

PS. Jaltus :jaltus: ... If you are sharing, flip some my way ... please? :bunny:

... and thanks for the words of encouragement Kevin :thumb: with my horrible memory, it is going to be a trial ... but I think it will really pay off in the future and make me a better witness for Christ.

[Jaltus]

I'll try to write up some more stuff for you guys this weekend. If you all could PM me with your e-mails, I'd be happy to oblige and do this in a mass e-mail since I am going to be pulling a ton of different resources together and I don;t want to have to do it a bunch of times.

[Belteshazzar]

Sher:

Always on the lookout for new learning tools, I found this website (http://cc.cumber.edu/acad/biblang/bibgreek/greek/letters.htm) today ... and decided to share. This really is rather cool :cool: I've bookmarked it to start my teen on Greek early ... and to begin to learn it myself.

Sher, thanks for the link! If you ever want a break from Greek grammar, and if you're really interested in Greek thought (which the language is based upon) be sure to read the Iliad and Odyssey by Homer. And then learn everything you can about Alexander the Great who brought Greek to you, the Maccabees, Christ, the Apostles, and all of us.

Jerry

[$cirisme]

Hey, thank you very much, Jaltus!

I downloaded a pack of Hebrew and Greek fonts, but I don't think it has BibleWorks. What is their site so I can download the font?

Thanks again. :yipee: :thumb:

[Jaltus]

If you ever want a break from Greek grammar, and if you're really interested in Greek thought (which the language is based upon) be sure to read the Iliad and Odyssey by Homer.

Just don't read them in the original! The Illiad is the hardest Greek I have ever worked on.

[Sher]

Thanks Jaltus ... they arrived just perfectly through both addresses! :yipee:


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Download the fonts here: http://www.bibleworks.com/fonts.html



:shersig: :sher:

[Seeton]

all I ever wanted was a sheet of all them dang declensions!

Did I ever get one. No. :argh:

:smile:

[Jaltus]

For some reason I cannot get back into my e-mail, so it might be a bit before you get the next set of stuff from me. I think the server for it is down (hotmail).

[$cirisme]

Got the first email, thanx man!

:bunny:

[Jaltus]

Sent the second one.

[Socrates]

Today @ 08:52 AM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=150425#post150425)
Jaltus:

For some reason I cannot get back into my e-mail, so it might be a bit before you get the next set of stuff from me. I think the server for it is down (hotmail).

Not surprised -- Yahoo is much better, e.g. smarter looking interface, three times as much storage, and hardly any spam.

[Rdr. Arsenios]

The sight has some nice features - The construction sequencing of the sounds of the verbs is nice - A refreshing change from the memorization of charts... Shis way shows you the thought sequence in pronounciation... I wish I had thought of it... :-)

Good luck - You can always puddle your way through a pericope, outline it, get a test that parses for you, and come up with a pretty good translation... Fluency is normally a product of immersion, and that gobbles up tons of time...

So be patient and enjoy the little pieces as you grapple with them. It will come together in its own time...

ciao!

geo

[AVmetro]

I'm using Machen's as it was recommended. Once I get my rules of accenting down I'll start on lesson three next week. You definitely have to WANT to learn another language if you're going to make that attempt. :doh:

[Jaltus]

Accenting is VERY VERY tricky. I recommend learning only the two basic rules:

This is a direct quote from my handout on accents:

Accents are the marks that appear above the vowels embedded in a word. there are three kinds of accents, namely acute( ' ), grave( ` ), and circumflex( ^).

The acute can occur on any of the last three syllables.

The grave can occur only on the final syllable, and an acute will appear instead only when there is a punctuation mark after the word.

The circumflex can occur only on the last two syllables and will always be over a long vowel (or a long diphthong).

The last syllable of a word is called the ultima. cristoV
The second to last syllable is called the penult. amartia
The third to last syllable is called the antepenult. euaggelion

TWO BASIC RULES OF ACCENTING

1. The accent wants to be on the antepenult. The acute can only stay on the antepenult if the ultima is short. If the ultima is long, then there cannot be an accent on the antepenult. The accent must move to the penult or the ultima.

2. If the accent wants to be on the penult, the penult is long, and the ultima has a short vowel or ends in ai or oi, the accent on the penult will be a circumflex. A circumflex can appear on the penult only when the ultima is short vowel or diphthong, otherwise it is acute or grave.


In general, nouns want the accent to stay where it is, and verbs want the accent to be at the end of the word. However, different suffixes or prefixes will draw the accent, and this should indicate to you that the form of the word has changed and thus so has the meaning (suffixes occur only in verbs).

Other exceptions will appear, such as enclitics, but these will be dealt with in later class periods.



For further information, consult the book Greek Accents: A Student’s Manual by D.A. Carson.

[AVmetro]

Thanks Jaltus. I'll make sure to add that to my notes. :cwink:

God bless

[usarmy770]

I'm right now stuck in Iraq and have been here since March. I'm studying Koine Greek to pass the time, I began in early May and I'm nearly done with the basics. Granted, I'm a genius so it only been taking me one fourth the amount of time that it would take the average person. I've been using William D. Mounce's grammar and workbook and I would recommend them for anyone. He makes you feel as if you are sitting in a classroom with him. I haven't had any major problems yet.

Brian Keller
Future Member of Mensa

[Jaltus]

Mounce is what I use to teach from.

My classhandouts are set up as a compliment to his book and workbook.

[usarmy770]

Just came across my first major obstacle.

Jaltus, can you explain to me what the whole deal with the genitive absolute is?

[Jaltus]

A genitive absolute is when a string of genitives are put together (usually at the beginning of the sentence) containing a noun (be it pronoun, articular participle, or whatever) and a verb (generally a participle in the genitive case) that has no grammatical relationship to the rest of the sentence.

In other words, it is a group of genitives that make sense with the sentence as long as you translate them separately from the rest of the sentence.

Generally they are going to be some sort of introductory phrase:

While Peter was sleeping, Jesus prayed for all believers.

The part about Peter could be a genitive absolute in Greek. It is genitive since that is the case of everything, and it is absolute because it is grammatically unrelated even though it is related in terms of meaning.

[usarmy770]

Thanks. I finally got it, understood it, and am now working on subjunctives.

I was under the impression that it had to act the way a genitive normally does.

[Jaltus]

Nope. You will also run across nominative absolutes, but they are extremely rare (I think there are like 5 in the NT, but don't quote me on that).

[Dee Dee Warren]

Today @ 01:14 AM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=165258#post165258)
Jaltus:

Nope. You will also run across nominative absolutes, but they are extremely rare (I think there are like 5 in the NT, but don't quote me on that).

Oops, I just quoted you on that. :lmbo:

[Jaltus]

Good grief!

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