Praying for others?

[doulos]

I was curious as to why Jesus does not include in His model for prayer, praying for others. The only part that I see mentions anyone else besides the person praying and God is when it mentions forgiving others. What do y'all think?

[India]

It also didn't include thanking God for what he's done, or a lot of praise, etc. But I don't think Jesus meant it to cover all possible topics of prayer; it was an example, not exhaustive teaching.

[doulos]

India:

It also didn't include thanking God for what he's done, or a lot of praise, etc. But I don't think Jesus meant it to cover all possible topics of prayer; it was an example, not exhaustive teaching.

Wouldn't thanking God, though, be included in the first petition. Our Father in Heaven, Hallowed be Your name.
Here we learn that we are to put praise of God first instead of our petitions for our needs.

[Hermeneutic]

Hello,

Just a thought to throw out there. I'm not sure if the "Lord's Prayer" was even intended by Christ to be a model and outline for how all believers should pray. The context of the passage seems to indicate that Jesus was not saying "here is a model and outline for how to pray and included in it is everything you should pray for, and how you should pray for it." The context seems to show that the primary intention for the teaching of the "Lord's Prayer" was actually to teach the disciples that repetitius and ritualistic prayer (as the theology of Gentiles and pharisees ) would not insure the answer to prayer. I think Christ was not teaching "how to pray" but rather, He was teaching on a particular principle of prayer, primarily, that God hears and answers a faithful prayer, not a ritualistic and repetitious one. Though that is just off the top of my head, its something to think about.

For Him,
Hermeneutic (Frank)

[luv1another]

Hi
as far as I can tell "your will be done on earth as it is in heaven" would include praying for people.... since when Gods will is being done people would be walking in faith and doing what they are supposed to be doing thus there would be healings etc and earth would be a mini heaven almost.

anyway thats just a thought

God Bless you

[darcutm]

07-25-2003 @ 12:32 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=158096#post158096)
Hermeneutic:

Hello,

Just a thought to throw out there. I'm not sure if the "Lord's Prayer" was even intended by Christ to be a model and outline for how all believers should pray. The context of the passage seems to indicate that Jesus was not saying "here is a model and outline for how to pray and included in it is everything you should pray for, and how you should pray for it." The context seems to show that the primary intention for the teaching of the "Lord's Prayer" was actually to teach the disciples that repetitius and ritualistic prayer (as the theology of Gentiles and pharisees ) would not insure the answer to prayer. I think Christ was not teaching "how to pray" but rather, He was teaching on a particular principle of prayer, primarily, that God hears and answers a faithful prayer, not a ritualistic and repetitious one. Though that is just off the top of my head, its something to think about.

For Him,
Hermeneutic (Frank)

Yes, very good point...Christ never taught in models or formulas but rather in ideas.

The only thing or time Jesus ever told us to pray was:
Matt 9:38

38 Pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he will send forth labourers into his harvest.
KJV

He said many times "when you pray", but this was the only time He said, "Pray."

I've got some great insightful teaching on the "Lord's Prayer" that I would love to share with anyone who is curious. It's a great way to introduce righteousness and spiritual foundation. However I'm not sure if it belongs in this thread or even in this room.

IN HIM

[Little Cow]

What about the word "us" used in the prayer.


Matt 6:11-13
11 Give us this day our daily bread.

12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.

13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.
KJV

One would only assume that this prayer not only includes oneself, but also your fellow man.

Think about it.:idea: