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Mentalist
March 20th 2006, 03:22 PM
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As a religion, how do you regard Christianity?

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Is it more, less or equally as plausible than other religions?
Does it provide good and relevant lessons/teachings? More or less so than other religions?
Does it provide bad lessons/teachings? More or less so than other religions?

Minnesota
March 20th 2006, 03:43 PM
Is it more, less or equally as plausible than other religions?
In many ways not as outrageous as some, and in other ways more outrageous than others, but no more plausible than any other.

Does it provide good and relevant lessons/teachings? More or less so than other religions?
Gots some good teachin's.

Does it provide bad lessons/teachings? More or less so than other religions?
Gots some bad ones, principally those that arise from example. It's a mixed bag.

In all, Christianity has given a lot to its adherents, but at the same time has caused a lot of suffering and divisiveness. People absolutely need religion, but I don't think Christianity is the best answer.

mentored1
March 20th 2006, 09:29 PM
Well met Mentalist...


As a religion, how do you regard Christianity?

No worse off then the others. I have a certain amount of pity for Christianity when it is taken literally in all its aspects - only because I see more value in understanding it as symbolism and mythology than as a literal historical revelation of the divine.

Is it more, less or equally as plausible than other religions?

To me it depends on how it is expressed. As a literal infallible truth: somewhat mistaken and perverted. If it is taken as I believe it was intended - as a set of symbols and myths to focus the conscious mind upon then it has a plausibility on the personal level. Faith has tremendous benefits for the believer but can like all things that are believed it cuts both ways.

Does it provide good and relevant lessons/teachings? More or less so than other religions?

The lessons and teachings of Christianity are not unique - the fundamental symbolism that underlies the major stories and teachings has a certain universal appeal. If understood on a personal level there is significant change brought about: the danger lies in enforcing the historical and literal contexts in order to achieve the message.

Does it provide bad lessons/teachings? More or less so than other religions?

Everything has a certain duality about it. Granted I'm harping on this point but the bad edge of Christianity, from my experiences, comes from taking the Bible's underlying message and literal content as inseparable and then carrying that mindset forward.

Take care

Bagger_Vance
March 21st 2006, 11:59 AM
As a religion, how do you regard Christianity?

I regard it as a way to keep people pacified.



Is it more, less or equally as plausible than other religions?

I think it is pretty implausible all around but no more so than any other religion.

Does it provide good and relevant lessons/teachings? More or less so than other religions?

No more so than most other religions. They all seem to draw from the same well when it comes to love, respect, and don't kill one another. Just like other religions it offers caveats so you can kill unbelievers. I don't think it is any better or worse than other religions.

Does it provide bad lessons/teachings? More or less so than other religions?

Equal. It is no different than other religions. They all teach common sense and bad stuff. I view them like Dr. Phil who is only right when he is saying things anyone could say and gets off track when he tries to get in depth on anything.

Zeluvia
March 21st 2006, 05:25 PM
Is it more, less or equally as plausible than other religions?

Comparatively less plausible. Islam is more plausible, Bahia is more plausible.
Christianity hinges entirely on orgininal sin, which means they can't get rid of Genesis, and then on sacrafice, death, and ressurection. The idea of appeasing a god by sacraficing something is so ancient, I can not understand why this system remains today. The ressurection is all by itself very unplausible.


Does it provide good and relevant lessons/teachings? More or less so than other religions? I would say Christianity is losing its moral compass. Long gone are the days when taking vows of chastity, poverty and silence were considered a path to holiness in the Christian faith. I know Christians SAY they believe that faith without works is dead, but then they turn around and justify all kinds of other things. For example, let's look at the death penalty. If you are Christian, and you agree with the death penalty and do not give people time to live long enough to rehabilitate and redeem themselves, then you are sending them to hell. But wait, if they confess their sins and ask for grace right before they die, they are saved, so all that talk about works is meaningless. I think Buddahism, Islam and a few variants of Christianity are much better at promoting self improvement and living a good life than Christianity.

Does it provide bad lessons/teachings? More or less so than other religions?
Both Islam and Christianity are religions of death, with the thrust of their focus on heaven and hell. This is bad. Very bad.

I think Dr Phil is a charlatan.

scisyhp
April 9th 2006, 05:44 PM
Christianity-0/10

Why do Christians believe that their god is a loving one? 500 million people died of smallpox last century, and many of them were babies. Religion has caused more wars, and more deaths than any other idea created by mankind.

I once argued of the above points with a person who was walking the line between Christian and agnostic. Eventually, he countered my arguments by saying "perhaps Christianity is not correct. However, the basic teachings of Christianity are good, so even if you don't follow all of their beliefs, there's still no harm in spreading the word of god, right?"

Let's think about that. The Christian bible has been used to justify all of the following:

1.The inquisition.
2.The crusades.
3.The Salem witch trials.
4.The enslavement and brutal treatment of Africans.
5.The brutal slaughter and cultural genocide of Native Americans.
6.The nazi holocaust.

The standard Christian response to this is "yes, yes, those are mostly ancient history, the Christian church no longer advocates such atrocities". Let's look at modern times, shall we?

In northern Ireland, Catholics and Protestants kill each other on almost a daily basis because of differences in opinion on how to interpret the bible.

In many western cultures, Christian groups actively discriminate against homosexuals, simply for being homosexual.

Abortion doctors are murdered, and abortion clinics are attacked because some Christian groups feel that abortion is against god.

Discrimination against blacks still continues to this day in the name of god in some areas.

The false feeling of superiority ("holier than thou") is still encouraged by the church, planting the seeds for the next holocaust. And the next, and the next...

In light of these things, why do you think god is loving? why would he allow such horrible things upon mankind? If he was loving would he allow these things? The answer is no.

Christianity has no roots in logic, and is possibly the greatest evil mankind will ever create, my lowest recomendation.

Judism-1.5/10

This gets a higher rating than Christianity becouse it is based on fewer lies, and does not encourage belief through fear.

Islam-1/10

Although parts of it have produced violence in modern times, and discrimination, it has caused much less hate, violence, murder and war than Christianity. It also has more logic than Christianity in light of that it believes in the big bang, and believes that evolution may be plausible, however, it is rooted in violence and is severly lacking logic.

Hindu-3/10

Hindu is almost as lacking in logic as Christianity, but not quite. It has produced far less violence when compared to Christianity or Islam.

Budism-6/10

Has produced alot of piece, however, but has been unsuccesful in producing piece as much as it is capable of. It is rooted in many illogical beliefs, but modern Budism has adapted to new findings in science and has much more logic to it.

Deism-9/10

While technically inpossible to disprove, I feel that it asserts belief in a god, and thus slightly lacks in logic.

Agnosticism-10/10
Pure logic, it is impossible to prove this either way.

Atheism-9/10

The most likely, however it is impossible to prove as of yet.

XaositectCrayon
April 11th 2006, 11:30 AM
As a religion, how do you regard Christianity?

as a religion...

Is it more, less or equally as plausible than other religions?

am I more or less plausable than any other humans?

Does it provide good and relevant lessons/teachings? More or less so than other religions?

nothing catches my eyes

Does it provide bad lessons/teachings? More or less so than other religions?

Not to me...

neonmagek
May 29th 2007, 06:37 PM
Is it more, less or equally as plausible than other religions?
In many ways not as outrageous as some, and in other ways more outrageous than others, but no more plausible than any other.

Does it provide good and relevant lessons/teachings? More or less so than other religions?
Gots some good teachin's.

Does it provide bad lessons/teachings? More or less so than other religions?
Gots some bad ones, principally those that arise from example. It's a mixed bag.

In all, Christianity has given a lot to its adherents, but at the same time has caused a lot of suffering and divisiveness. People absolutely need religion, but I don't think Christianity is the best answer.
I do not think that people need religion. Philosophy could be used for the same purposes as religion. I agree with the rest of what you said. I also think that Christianity is more exacting in its concepts than some of the other religions. For example, you can find some of the attributes God has in the Bible. Some of the other religions refer to a god or gods but it isn't very clear as to what exactly they are calling a god.