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Will_C_Drotar
July 18th 2003, 11:43 AM
Hey, it's been a VERY long time since I last posted here. What with graduation and all, I didn't have much time. But I've been reading through a defense of atheism, and noticed humongous problems.


We all know the First Cause argument. Well, from a purely scientific perspective, how exactly is it that the universe as we know it came into existence? Astrophysicist Stephen F. Hawkins introduced a theory of the expanding universe, proved it, and now it has in recent years been accepted into the scientific community and taught with great zeal.

First, what exactly prompted the "Big Bang"? I mean exactly what? And if so, what prompted that cause? Eventually we'll run into an infinite regress where there can be no first cause besides God, and if one denies God, then they are forced with the conclusion that nothing presently exists.

Secondly, how is it exactly that, with an understanding of the Law of Entropy, that an ordered universe came into existence? Infinity should yield infinite randomness. To get to the point that our universe is at today, there must have been something that created it. But the theory of evolution (not the time right now to discuss that theory) and the theory of evolution absolutely necessitate the opposite having happened, at least some point in the past.

How is it that the Big Bang created an ordered universe? In order for life to be sustained there must be perfect conditions. The bigger problem is that each of the planets keep of the other planets from colliding with each other. Jupiter might keep Mercury from colliding with the sun and keep Pluto in a constant rotation and revolve around the sun. It's really the order of the planets and the conditions on earth that make me wonder how people could believe an uncaused cause just blew one day and created everything and the earth, able to sustain life. If you ask me, the Big Bang theory sounds more like a fairy tale than Creationism.

I have many more questions but I can wait until ALL of these have been explained adequately. TTYL Jesus loves you!

Sher
July 20th 2003, 08:16 PM
Hi Will

Not believing in the "big bang", I can't help you here.

This is a creationist only area of the science section. Would you like me to move this topic to Natural Sciences? You would probably get a secular science "answer" there.


:shersig:

gcomeau
July 20th 2003, 08:49 PM
Today @ 01:16 AM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=154111#post154111)
Sher:

This is a creationist only area of the science section. Would you like me to move this topic to Natural Sciences? You would probably get a secular science "answer" there.


Just wanted to let the author know that I posted a response to this in Natural Sciences already since he seemed to be asking how us non-creationists explained these things.

http://theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7496

-Grant

Grant, you obviously read my notice ... you quoted it. Please do not ignore the rules for this area. ~Sher