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Rayado
June 16th 2006, 12:23 PM
Just a quick question off the top of my head--I was reading through NTPG yesterday, and came across where the Roman general Pompey marched directly into the Holy of Holies in the fall of the year 63ad.

Does this particular event have any significant placement within the Orthodox Preterist timescheme concerning the events leading up to the destruction of the temple, and if so, how?

To me, it seems like his act would have been absolutely chock full of eschatological importance, for both Christians and Jews of that time period.

Chief of Staff Lizard
June 16th 2006, 01:08 PM
Just a quick question off the top of my head--I was reading through NTPG yesterday, and came across where the Roman general Pompey marched directly into the Holy of Holies in the fall of the year 63ad.

Does this particular event have any significant placement within the Orthodox Preterist timescheme concerning the events leading up to the destruction of the temple, and if so, how?

To me, it seems like his act would have been absolutely chock full of eschatological importance, for both Christians and Jews of that time period.

Meh?

Some say it was the beginning of the 7 years of tribulation, but I find no merit for a 7 year tribulation in scripture, so I am not one of them.

I agree that it would seem that there would be some eschatological significance, but darned if I can find one. (My lack of finding only implies my lack of finding not a lack of significance).

Hopefully some other preterist can answer better.

Rayado
June 16th 2006, 01:13 PM
My copy of End Times Fiction is currently on loan, that's why I'm asking here. :hehe:

But thanks for the input! :smile:

The Curtmudgeon
June 16th 2006, 03:20 PM
Just a quick question off the top of my head--I was reading through NTPG yesterday, and came across where the Roman general Pompey marched directly into the Holy of Holies in the fall of the year 63ad.

Can't answer from a Preterist point of view, but one correction: Your date's wrong. Pompey's visit to Jerusalem was in 63 BC, not AD. He was Julius Caesar's contemporary, not Titus'.

I'm not much into preteristic writings, but I've never seen any preterist address Pompey's visit at all. Perhaps someone can enlighten.

The (but all those old Latins look alike) Curtmudgeon

Chief of Staff Lizard
June 16th 2006, 03:47 PM
Can't answer from a Preterist point of view, but one correction: Your date's wrong. Pompey's visit to Jerusalem was in 63 BC, not AD. He was Julius Caesar's contemporary, not Titus'.

I'm not much into preteristic writings, but I've never seen any preterist address Pompey's visit at all. Perhaps someone can enlighten.

The (but all those old Latins look alike) Curtmudgeon

:doh: That is right. I was confusing Pompey with another Roman General who did come to Jerusalem before Vespasian came in AD 70. Can't never remember that guys name. (But I now remember that the general came c. AD 67 NOT 63).

The Curtmudgeon
June 16th 2006, 05:03 PM
:doh: That is right. I was confusing Pompey with another Roman General who did come to Jerusalem before Vespasian came in AD 70. Can't never remember that guys name. (But I now remember that the general came c. AD 67 NOT 63).

You're probably thinking of Cestius Gallus, but AFAICT his 'invasion' only entered Galilee; ditto for Sulla, general of Agrippa's troops. AFAICT no Roman general at the time of the Jewish War came to Jerusalem before Vespasian. But my copy of Josephus is not to hand at the moment, and I'm refreshing my memory with web sites which can always be dicey.

The (:whistle: "poor old Dicey Riley, she has taken to the sup" -- woops, wrong Dicey :doh:) Curtmudgeon

Rayado
June 20th 2006, 01:01 AM
:doh:

Yeah, I was apparently thinking of that other Pompey. :outtie:

Certainly glad I asked now... :hehe: