Many people divide evil into two categories: moral evil and natural evil. Moral evil is rebellion against God and natural evil consists of natural disasters such as hurricanes, earthquakes, tornadoes, and so on. Does the Bible call "natural disasters" a kind of evil? Does the Bible divide evil into two categories: moral and natural?
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Originally posted by Jaxb View PostMany people divide evil into two categories: moral evil and natural evil. Moral evil is rebellion against God and natural evil consists of natural disasters such as hurricanes, earthquakes, tornadoes, and so on. Does the Bible call "natural disasters" a kind of evil? Does the Bible divide evil into two categories: moral and natural?
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Originally posted by Jaxb View PostMany people divide evil into two categories: moral evil and natural evil. Moral evil is rebellion against God and natural evil consists of natural disasters such as hurricanes, earthquakes, tornadoes, and so on. Does the Bible call "natural disasters" a kind of evil? Does the Bible divide evil into two categories: moral and natural?
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Originally posted by seanD View PostThe book of Job seems to associate natural evil directly with Satan, at least in that particular incident. Not sure if that really answers your question though.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostThis would be an acceptable ancient view of cause and effect in the natural world when they did not have the modern knowledge of science. It is time we moved beyond the limitations of this ancient world view.
http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/announcement.php?f=46
Get lost shunya.
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Originally posted by Faber View PostI know the word, at least in English translations, is used to mean such things as harm or misfortune, things which are not evil in the moral sense. I checked the Biblehub website, and found one Hebrew word, raah, defined as "evil, misery, distress, injury". In the NASB it is translated as:
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Originally posted by Adrift View Post
If you object appeal to the moderator.Last edited by shunyadragon; 08-12-2015, 07:24 AM.
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostGet lost shunya.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostI do not believe Natural Evil exists. Nature is simply natural as God Created and intended.
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Here is my take on natural evil:
Genesis 1:28
God blessed them; and God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it; and rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over every living thing that moves on the earth.
Subdue=kabash
to subject, subdue, force, keep under, bring into bondage
(Qal)
to bring into bondage, make subservient
to subdue, force, violate
to subdue, dominate, tread downAtheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Papa Zoom View PostIsn't calling something a natural evil a philosophical idea where we try to understand that which we observe in nature. A tornado rips through the country side in an unpopulated area and it's just a tornado. If the same tornado goes through a town and destroys homes and people are killed, we call that a natural evil. You can probably explain that better than I just did. In philosophy, the problem of evil seems to be a roadblock to believing in a good God.
Calling a natural event 'evil' would be calling something natural having the source or force of evil, or being against God in one way or another.
If a tornado occurred as you describe it, I would call it a tragic unfortunate natural event, which occurs only through natural causes and not evil causes.
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According to the KJV, Isaiah 45:7 says, "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things." According to the NASB, Isaiah 45:7 says, "The One forming light and creating darkness, causing well-being and creating calamity; I am the Lord who does all these."
The Hebrew word translated as "evil" in the KJV is the word "rah." This Hebrew word is translated as "calamity" in the NASB. Since the Hebrew word "rah" can be translated as "evil" or "calamity", is this the reason why some people call natural disasters "natural evil"?
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostI do not believe Natural Evil exists. Nature is simply natural as God Created and intended.
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