Young Age of the Earth video.

[TheGreenMan]

I do not know if anyone has seen this:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6480766547126138777&q=young+age+of+the+earth
It is a very, shall we say, interesting video. I might post a review if I get time over the weekend.
Be warned, it is an hour long video.

After watching it halfway the part that gets me most is when they spend several minutes celabrating that they were able to make charcoal from wood.

[TrueCreation]

I do not know if anyone has seen this:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6480766547126138777&q=young+age+of+the+earth
It is a very, shall we say, interesting video. I might post a review if I get time over the weekend.
Be warned, it is an hour long video.

After watching it halfway the part that gets me most is when they spend several minutes celabrating that they were able to make charcoal from wood.
I only watched the first few minutes wherein gentry's work on polonium halos was brought up.

Polonium halos are, of course, a product of the geochemical behavior of radiogenic Ra, Rn, and Po, the biggest contributor probably being inert Ra mobility in the U-238 disintegration chain.

Instead of being a huge surprise to radiogenic isotope geochemists, its actually an good tool to study the systematic behavior of short lived unstable radiogenic daughters in various geochemical systems.

[grmorton]

I only watched the first few minutes wherein gentry's work on polonium halos was brought up..

Well you missed Walter Brown spouting hydroplate nonsense, having mountains rise in moments, the Grand canyon be eroded in minutes, the mid-oceanic ridges generated in minutes, continental drift happening in minutes etc etc. What a bunch of hooey.

[TrueCreation]

Well you missed Walter Brown spouting hydroplate nonsense, having mountains rise in moments, the Grand canyon be eroded in minutes, the mid-oceanic ridges generated in minutes, continental drift happening in minutes etc etc. What a bunch of hooey.
I think i've seen and thought quite enough about walt browns geofantasy, the repetition might just get mind-numbing. While hydroplates are just dumb, Po halos are just misunderstood by YEC's, and while its fairly obvious in principle what processes are involved in producing them geochemically, it would if it were true, be fairly good evidence for a young age of the earth, and they know there is nothing else, so they probably will not let it go.

[Assyrian]

Hi folks,

Radio halos are very interesting because the show radioactive decay was just as energetic in the past. The Rate project concluded there really was the amount of radioactive decay geologists claimed (and are pinning their hopes on variable rates of decay). But if all that decay happened really fast, and the decay produced as much energy in the past, then they really need to explain why the earth didn't melt with the heat.

[oxmixmudd]

Hi folks,

Radio halos are very interesting because the show radioactive decay was just as energetic in the past. The Rate project concluded there really was the amount of radioactive decay geologists claimed (and are pinning their hopes on variable rates of decay). But if all that decay happened really fast, and the decay produced as much energy in the past, then they really need to explain why the earth didn't melt with the heat.

Hi Assyrian - where you been? I miss your input around here!

But to your post, I can see Humphreys et al scurring to find some what of getting po halos that match the energy signature of today's decay rates in an environment where decay is occuring a 1,000,000 or more time the current rate. And, of course, for real problems like the heat generated, they simply cry:

"and then a miracle occurs..."

Which reminds me of the wonderful Math cartoon. A professor is eyeing the work of his student, which contains some impressive maths, a gap with the words above, and then a bit more maths and the desired conclusion. The professor quips,

"I am not so sure about this step here...", refering to the above.



Jim

[rach12]

I think i've seen and thought quite enough about walt browns geofantasy, the repetition might just get mind-numbing. While hydroplates are just dumb, ...
Am I mistaken or were you not a proponent of Walt's hydroplate theory at one time?

[aniso]

Am I mistaken or were you not a proponent of Walt's hydroplate theory at one time?

I belive you are correct and I think I predicted TC would ultimately rebel fom YEC. How's it going rach?

[rach12]

I belive you are correct and I think I predicted TC would ultimately rebel fom YEC. How's it going rach?

I think you probably did.:lol:

And has he?


I'm well - extremely busy, but well. Hope you are, too.

Are you back?

[TrueCreation]

I don't think I ever gave credence to Walt Brown's hydroplate hypothesis. I was more interested in Catastrophic Plate Tectonics. I think it was around the time I last posted on this board that I started to break away from the thought that it might have happened on earth in the past in the form of a global flood as it goes. Then I began to get a better understanding of the philosophy of science and started studying CPT in the capacity of a theory. Later I found potential application on Venus, perhaps not for CPT but for some kind of thermal runaway mechanism.

So thats a very brief history of me.

Hope you and aniso have been doing well!

[rach12]

I don't think I ever gave credence to Walt Brown's hydroplate hypothesis. I was more interested in Catastrophic Plate Tectonics. I think it was around the time I last posted on this board that I started to break away from the thought that it might have happened on earth in the past in the form of a global flood as it goes. Then I began to get a better understanding of the philosophy of science and started studying CPT in the capacity of a theory. Later I found potential application on Venus, perhaps not for CPT but for some kind of thermal runaway mechanism.

So thats a very brief history of me.

Hope you and aniso have been doing well!
Doing very well, thank you. I hope you are, too.

Yes, I do remember you discussing CPT quite a bit.

Are you still a proponent of YEC?