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Obsidian
09-19-2015, 06:34 PM
Jude 1:13 raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.

Is this referring to shooting stars, or something else?

robrecht
09-19-2015, 07:08 PM
This is just the typical Greek way to refer to the planets. They were 'wandering stars' as opposed to the fixed stars.

Rushing Jaws
04-17-2016, 01:35 PM
Jude 1:13 raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.

Is this referring to shooting stars, or something else?Might that underlined word be a reference to *Helel* in Isaiah 14.12 ? If *Helel* is Venus, that makes H. a planet - IOW, a wanderer.

rogue06
04-17-2016, 01:53 PM
This is just the typical Greek way to refer to the planets. They were 'wandering stars' as opposed to the fixed stars.
Yup.

hansgeorg
11-22-2016, 02:30 AM
This is just the typical Greek way to refer to the planets. They were 'wandering stars' as opposed to the fixed stars.

Linguistic finesse : planetes is the Greek word for wandering. I think also the word actually used in Jude in Greek NT.

robrecht
11-22-2016, 03:50 AM
Linguistic finesse : planetes is the Greek word for wandering. I think also the word actually used in Jude in Greek NT.
'planao' is a Greek verb for 'wandering' that is used here, along with 'aster' in the plural for 'stars'. From the verb we eventually get our word for 'planets', and from the noun we get our words 'astronomy' and 'astrology' and 'star'.