criteria for the mesiah?

[shadowman]

If an individual fails to fulfill even one of these conditions, then he cannot be "The Messiah."

http://www.jewsforjudaism.com/web/faq/general-messiah-criteria.html

http://www.jewsforjudaism.com/web/faq/general-messiah-belief.html

[Amazing Rando]

If an individual fails to fulfill even one of these conditions, then he cannot be "The Messiah."

http://www.jewsforjudaism.com/web/faq/general-messiah-criteria.html


I think I could make a fairly good case that Jesus did indeed fulfill all those criteria, albeit not in the way most Orthodox Jews would expect. And yes, I'm quite serious. :yes:

[shadowman]

can you please?

[BrianK]

They didn't put that the messiahs own people will reject him in that and a lot others Jesus fulfilled all ask me what you think he didn't fulfill and I will try to answer

[Amazing Rando]

can you please?

Sure- I'll take a stab at it tomorrow. I looked over the list of criteria the website provided for "Messiahship" and it looks pretty good.

[Soyeong]

If an individual fails to fulfill even one of these conditions, then he cannot be "The Messiah."

If a prophet, or one who foretells by dreams, appears among you and announces to you a miraculous sign or wonder, 2 and if the sign or wonder of which he has spoken takes place, and he says, "Let us follow other gods" (gods you have not known) "and let us worship them," 3 you must not listen to the words of that prophet or dreamer. The LORD your God is testing you to find out whether you love him with all your heart and with all your soul. 4 It is the LORD your God you must follow, and him you must revere. Keep his commands and obey him; serve him and hold fast to him. 5 That prophet or dreamer must be put to death, because he preached rebellion against the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt and redeemed you from the land of slavery; he has tried to turn you from the way the LORD your God commanded you to follow. You must purge the evil from among you.

I think many Jews use this passage to support the idea that Jesus was a false prophet. God has given us criteria to determine if prophets are from Him and He does test us on it, so anyone who does not come up to specs should be put to death. Through other prophets, God provided us with further details of how to know who the Messiah is. My question is how close do the prophecies have to match up before God’s test turns to deceit? For example, if it is show that Jesus matched up to every single prophecy except that he was called Immanuel, wouldn’t that go beyond a test and into God actively deceiving His people? It is not recorded whether Jesus was called Immanuel, but if all of the other hundreds of prophecies matched up, then I’m willing to bet that he was called that. With all of the prophecies, I do not think it is possible for someone to fulfill half of them even if they dedicated their life to doing so. I think if we were unable to show one prophecy, it would still be too risky to disgard Jesus. However, I still am confident that Jesus was up to specs.

[BrianK]

The jews were suppose to reject the messiah and they are doing that look at this


He must rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem - "...and I will set my sanctuary in their midst forever and my tabernacle shall be with them.." (Ezekiel 37:26 - 27)

At last check, there is NO Temple in Jerusalem. And worse, it was shortly after Jesus died that the Temple was DESTROYED! Just the opposite of this prophecy!


Jesus rebuilt the temple in 3 days we can pray where ever we want now!

[ApologiaPhoenix]

This thread is being moved to General theistics

[Sevivon1913]

If an individual fails to fulfill even one of these conditions, then he cannot be "The Messiah."

http://www.jewsforjudaism.com/web/faq/general-messiah-criteria.html

http://www.jewsforjudaism.com/web/faq/general-messiah-belief.html
I don't recall the Bible ever predicting that a messiah would come and he must fulfill a set criteria. I do see alot of diverse prophecies which later commentators have bundled into having to be fulfilled by one individual. But essentially, the messiah is an irrelivent personification of the future. One could just as easily say that the Jewish people themselves will be their own messiah (because I don't recall there being a messiah in 1948 to bring back the exiles....yet they came anyway). The notion of a supernatural messiah is unscriptural.