View Full Version : "Believe" versus "acknowledge"
Sevivon1913
November 24th 2006, 12:03 AM
Dear,
Could someone answer this, please, as it has been bugging me.
What does "believe" mean, as a requirement for salvation, which "know" or "acknowledge" would not fulfill? For example, one could believe but not love Jesus.
"I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die." - John 11:25
Thanks,
Sevi
National Intelligence Director Phoenix
November 27th 2006, 11:01 AM
Dear,
Could someone answer this, please, as it has been bugging me.
What does "believe" mean, as a requirement for salvation, which "know" or "acknowledge" would not fulfill? For example, one could believe but not love Jesus.
"I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die." - John 11:25
Thanks,
Sevi
I think believe in this case means not just mental assent as the demons are said to have, but also action with trust. Those who trust in Jesus will never die.
Hope this helps!
Sevivon1913
November 27th 2006, 03:57 PM
I think believe in this case means not just mental assent as the demons are said to have, but also action with trust. Those who trust in Jesus will never die.
Hope this helps!
Thanks!
You can "trust" him, whilst simulteneously having absolutely no "feeling" for him in any positive way. In other words, would a completely plutonic "trust" (with no emotion, no love whatsoever) in his ressurection as a means by which salvation is gained suffice?
Sevi
National Intelligence Director Phoenix
November 30th 2006, 09:47 AM
Thanks!
You can "trust" him, whilst simulteneously having absolutely no "feeling" for him in any positive way. In other words, would a completely plutonic "trust" (with no emotion, no love whatsoever) in his ressurection as a means by which salvation is gained suffice?
Sevi
I think it would result in emotion from time to time of course, but I would also say that emotions fluctuate. If you came down with a virus for instance, your emotions would probably not be on the same level as before. I'd also add I do believe there are legitimately chemical imbalances that can happen. However, you cannot determine your trust by how you feel.
JardinPrayer
November 30th 2006, 10:10 AM
When you consider that God IS love, to "believe" in Him is to believe in love. Both terms (believe and love) carry with them a deep desire to hold close the object of your focus. In this case, I would call that a positive emotion...and I would rejoice over that like nobody's business!
God is saying He wishes to be in relationship with us in order to love us and - more importantly - to protect us from evil. Sin is the greatest barrier to that end, and so He calls us to keep him the very center of our focus, to love Him with "our whole heart, our whole body, and our whole mind." He tells us (in the words of Jesus) that to believe is to accept the whole Word of God, and implicit in that is constant striving for as much obedience, awe, and humility toward Him as possible. I do not see how you can "believe" if you are feeling forced to obey and be humble...that is slavery. This belief is free (Whom the Son makes free is free indeed). When you believe with your whole heart, you joyfully submit to God's will, joyfully apply yourself to learning and obeying His instruction, joyfully rest in the trust the Holy Spirit will help you cultivate. I'd call that fairly positive emotion. I'd call that love.
Satan and all the demons acknowledge Jesus, but they do not submit to God's will. You can acknowledge Him as savior, but like a foot soldier running out onto a battlefield against the strategy and orders of your general, you will not be under His protective cover when the heat is really on in realms you cannot see.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
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