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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostLast edited by TimelessTheist; 02-19-2014, 06:33 PM.Better to illuminate than merely to shine, to deliver to others contemplated truths than merely to contemplate.
-Thomas Aquinas
I love to travel, But hate to arrive.
-Hernando Cortez
What is the good of experience if you do not reflect?
-Frederick 2, Holy Roman Emperor
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I thought the point of killing animals this way was to give them a quick and relatively painless death that fulfills the requirements for humaneness and compassion, as opposed to strangling them to death. I guess it goes against tradition, but if there is a more humane and compassionate way to kill animals, then why not go for it?"Faith is nothing less than the will to keep one's mind fixed precisely on what reason has discovered to it." - Edward Feser
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Originally posted by robrecht View PostWhat is the basis in Jewish kashrut law for requiring the animal to be conscious when killed?
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Originally posted by Soyeong View PostI thought the point of killing animals this way was to give them a quick and relatively painless death that fulfills the requirements for humaneness and compassion, as opposed to strangling them to death. I guess it goes against tradition, but if there is a more humane and compassionate way to kill animals, then why not go for it?Better to illuminate than merely to shine, to deliver to others contemplated truths than merely to contemplate.
-Thomas Aquinas
I love to travel, But hate to arrive.
-Hernando Cortez
What is the good of experience if you do not reflect?
-Frederick 2, Holy Roman Emperor
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Originally posted by Outis View PostTo be a proper shechita, the animal must be healthy, uninjured, and free of disease (along with the other qualifications). According to Jewish religious tradition, an animal that has been stunned has been injured, thus rendering them ineligible for shechita.אָכֵ֕ן אַתָּ֖ה אֵ֣ל מִסְתַּתֵּ֑ר אֱלֹהֵ֥י יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל מוֹשִֽׁיעַ׃
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Sorry for not being clear. Their goal was to provide as quick and clean of a death possible. There are rules in the Bible against strangling animals."Faith is nothing less than the will to keep one's mind fixed precisely on what reason has discovered to it." - Edward Feser
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Originally posted by Soyeong View PostSorry for not being clear. Their goal was to provide as quick and clean of a death possible. There are rules in the Bible against strangling animals.
[28]*For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things; [29]*That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Outis View PostTo be a proper shechita, the animal must be healthy, uninjured, and free of disease (along with the other qualifications). According to Jewish religious tradition, an animal that has been stunned has been injured, thus rendering them ineligible for shechita.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostWouldn't slicing their throat and bleeding them to death be considered an injury too?
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Originally posted by Outis View PostI would guess that because slicing the throat is the killing injury, that doesn't count. I have respect for their traditions, while acknowledging that they don't always make sense from an outsider's point of view.
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