Question about Repentance

[Jaxb]

Is repentance the means of receiving Christ's righteousness and God's declaration that you are righteous or is it the evidence that one has received justification?

Repentance is defined as turning away from sin. Repentance is done with one's heart. One's lifestyle or behavior is evidence of whether one has repented. Acts 26:20 implies that one's deeds is evidence of whether one has repented. A change of behavior is not identical with repentance. A change of behavior is evidence of repentance.

[37818]

Repentance is changing one's view, and precedes faith without works (Mark 1:15; Hebrews 6:1).

[The Remonstrant]

Is repentance the means of receiving Christ's righteousness and God's declaration that you are righteous or is it the evidence that one has received justification?

While in no way denying the necessity of repentance as a prerequisite for salvation, the instrumental cause of justification is faith (i.e. faith in the person and work of Jesus Christ).

[flowers92]

Repentance & Faith are 2 sides to one coin. You must repent of your sin towards Christ to be saved
When you say faith you ussually assume repentace & when you say repentance you ussually assume faith.

"Repentance is no more a meritorious work than its counterpart, faith. It is an inward response. Genuine repentance pleads with the Lord to forgive and deliver from the burden of sin and the fear of judgment and hell. It is the attitude of the publican who, fearful of even looking toward heaven, smote his breast and cried, "God, be merciful to me, the sinner!" (Luke 18:13). Repentance is not merely behavior reform. But because true repentance involves a change of heart and purpose, it inevitably results in a change of behavior.

Like faith, repentance has intellectual, emotional, and volitional ramifications. Berkhof describes the intellectual element of repentance as "a change of view, a recognition of sin as involving personal guilt, defilement, and helplessness." The emotional element is "a change of feeling, manifesting itself in sorrow for sin committed against a holy God." The volitional element is "a change of purpose, an inward turning away from sin, and a disposition to seek pardon and cleansing." (Berkhof, Systematic Theology, 486) Each of those three elements is deficient apart from the others. Repentance is a response of the total person; therefore some speak of it as total surrender. (from gty, jmac)"

[37818]

Repentance is a work. And it is dead works one needs to repent from. Biblical repentance precedes faith.
Repentance is toward forgiveness of sins. It is faith in the Lord Jesus Christ through which forgiveness of sins is obtained as a free gift.

[Marta]

Is repentance the means of receiving Christ's righteousness and God's declaration that you are righteous or is it the evidence that one has received justification?

Repentance is defined as turning away from sin. Repentance is done with one's heart. One's lifestyle or behavior is evidence of whether one has repented. Acts 26:20 implies that one's deeds is evidence of whether one has repented. A change of behavior is not identical with repentance. A change of behavior is evidence of repentance.

[flowers92]

Repentance is not a work. It is not something you do. It is a gift from God itself which is produced by a new heart.

correcting his opponents with gentleness. God may perhaps grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth, 2 Timothy 2"25

[37818]

Repentance is not a work. It is not something you do. It is a gift from God itself which is produced by a new heart.
correcting his opponents with gentleness. God may perhaps grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth, 2 Timothy 2"25

OK. Agreed regarding 2 Timothy 2:25. In that repentance precedes the knowledge of the truth which precedes the faith. Faith precedes the new heart God gives.

". . . In whom ye also [trusted], after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, . . ." -- Ephesians 1:13.

[flowers92]

They're really all kinda simultaneous... i dont think faith precedes a new heart though

***If we are elect
then, at the moment of our appointed time of salvation we are given a new heart-which produces faith

[flowers92]

"No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. (John 6:44)

I think this is an important verse to the fact that you must be spiritually born with a new heart in order to have faith... Id say it produces faith, if you're born again then you have faith.

[bling]

Is repentance the means of receiving Christ's righteousness and God's declaration that you are righteous or is it the evidence that one has received justification?

Repentance is defined as turning away from sin. Repentance is done with one's heart. One's lifestyle or behavior is evidence of whether one has repented. Acts 26:20 implies that one's deeds is evidence of whether one has repented. A change of behavior is not identical with repentance. A change of behavior is evidence of repentance.

[Rushing Jaws]

Repentance is not a work. It is not something you do. It is a gift from God itself which is produced by a new heart.

correcting his opponents with gentleness. God may perhaps grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth, 2 Timothy 2"25

If it repentance something people have to do, and they do it, it is, in some sense, a work. One that is a gift of God's grace, but not less something done in and by human beings. Otherwise, Divine judgement on those who are rebuked for not repenting, would be either meaningless, or a sadistic trick by an evil and malevolent god.

STM words are perhaps being used with associations that are not being made clear. Repentance does not *originate* in man - but it can hardly be denied that Scripture contains exhortations to men to repent. To exhort someone to do X, amounts to saying that someone must do X. And what someone does, is a work of theirs. God's grace does not vapourise human ability to act - it purifies, redeems, sanctifies and elevates it. It makes us more fully human, not less. Renewal by God's grace is renewal - not a trick, not an act of divine malevolence.

[Marta]

NagaProvocative PonderingsHebrew And Greek Words For Forgiveness Or Pardon

Regret is not really possible unless we can clearly distinguish between right and wrong - so what initiates the beginnings of forgiveness? How does one who was once blind able to see? ...God (Exodus 4:11, "And the LORD said unto him, Who hath made man's mouth? or who maketh the dumb, or deaf, or the seeing, or the blind? have not I the LORD?) and also, (Luke 12:11, "12 for the Holy Spirit will teach you in that very hour what you ought to say.")

Is this statement true - The Hebrew words translated "take (away)" and "blessing" are exactly the same?

[flowers92]

repentance is a choice you make after God grants you repentance. Its not something you have to do.

A lot like how joy is not a work.

[37818]

They're really all kinda simultaneous... i dont think faith precedes a new heart though

***If we are elect
then, at the moment of our appointed time of salvation we are given a new heart-which produces faith

"No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. (John 6:44)

I think this is an important verse to the fact that you must be spiritually born with a new heart in order to have faith... Id say it produces faith, if you're born again then you have faith.

". . . So then faith [cometh] by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. . . ." Romans 10:17.
". . . thy word is truth. . . ." -- John 17:17.
". . . Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice. . . ." -- John 18:37.

Truth, repentance and faith, come in that order.

Note Jesus' own words, ". . . repent ye, and believe the gospel." -- Mark 1:15.