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This forum is primarily for Christians to discuss matters of Christian doctrine, and is not the area for debate between atheists (or those opposing orthodox Christianity) and Christians. Inquiring atheists (or sincere seekers/doubters/unorthodox) seeking only Christian participation and having demonstrated a manner that does not seek to undermine the orthodox Christian faith of others are also welcome, but must seek Moderator permission first. When defining “Christian” or "orthodox" for purposes of this section, we mean persons holding to the core essentials of the historic Christian faith such as the Trinity, the Creatorship of God, the virgin birth, the bodily resurrection of Christ, the atonement, the future bodily return of Christ, the future bodily resurrection of the just and the unjust, and the final judgment. Persons not holding to these core doctrines are welcome to participate in the Comparative Religions section without restriction, in Theology 201 as regards to the nature of God and salvation with limited restrictions, and in Christology for issues surrounding the person of Christ and the Trinity. Atheists are welcome to discuss and debate these issues in the Apologetics 301 forum without such restrictions.
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Sorry for zombie threading ya'll but I forgot to link a review of the debate by Justin Bass, which I think is worth reading, enjoy and comment:
http://credohouse.org/blog/who-is-th...-ehrman-part-1
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Sorry, I don't watch hour-long videos. A transcript might be worth looking at.
The review implies that Ehrman is presenting a standard "liberal" critical view. I don't agree. I'm a liberal, but I think Ehrman is pushing the edge of accepted scholarship. Yes, it's virtually certain that 2 Peter wasn't written by Peter or the Pastorals by Paul. But Ehrman's book on the subject tries to find reasons to attack the authorship of just about every book in the NT.
Similarly, his picture of the historical Jesus is of a failed apocalyptic prophet. The idea that Jesus' Kingdom is only about the future, and an immediate future that didn't happen, is only one understanding. And I don't think it's that common. The failed apocalyptic prophet thing seems more like Schweitzer than current historical Jesus scholars.
I've read several of his books. I think they'll all subtly slanted.
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Originally posted by hedrick View PostSorry, I don't watch hour-long videos. A transcript might be worth looking at.
The review implies that Ehrman is presenting a standard "liberal" critical view. I don't agree. I'm a liberal, but I think Ehrman is pushing the edge of accepted scholarship. Yes, it's virtually certain that 2 Peter wasn't written by Peter or the Pastorals by Paul. But Ehrman's book on the subject tries to find reasons to attack the authorship of just about every book in the NT.
Similarly, his picture of the historical Jesus is of a failed apocalyptic prophet. The idea that Jesus' Kingdom is only about the future, and an immediate future that didn't happen, is only one understanding. And I don't think it's that common. The failed apocalyptic prophet thing seems more like Schweitzer than current historical Jesus scholars.
I've read several of his books. I think they'll all subtly slanted.
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