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Bart Ehrman Vs. Justin Bass

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  • Bart Ehrman Vs. Justin Bass

    There was a recent debate between Bart Ehrman and Justin Bass on whether the "historical Jesus" believed he was divine. It can be found on YT.

    Here is a commentary (part 1) by James White on the debate. I think it's worth following:


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    33:00-35:45 was such a profound statement. That's where skeptics miserably fail because they don't understand both the theology and historical context to see the bigger picture.

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      Sorry for zombie threading ya'll but I forgot to link a review of the debate by Justin Bass, which I think is worth reading, enjoy and comment:

      http://credohouse.org/blog/who-is-th...-ehrman-part-1

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          Sorry, I don't watch hour-long videos. A transcript might be worth looking at.

          The review implies that Ehrman is presenting a standard "liberal" critical view. I don't agree. I'm a liberal, but I think Ehrman is pushing the edge of accepted scholarship. Yes, it's virtually certain that 2 Peter wasn't written by Peter or the Pastorals by Paul. But Ehrman's book on the subject tries to find reasons to attack the authorship of just about every book in the NT.

          Similarly, his picture of the historical Jesus is of a failed apocalyptic prophet. The idea that Jesus' Kingdom is only about the future, and an immediate future that didn't happen, is only one understanding. And I don't think it's that common. The failed apocalyptic prophet thing seems more like Schweitzer than current historical Jesus scholars.

          I've read several of his books. I think they'll all subtly slanted.

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            Originally posted by hedrick View Post
            Sorry, I don't watch hour-long videos. A transcript might be worth looking at.

            The review implies that Ehrman is presenting a standard "liberal" critical view. I don't agree. I'm a liberal, but I think Ehrman is pushing the edge of accepted scholarship. Yes, it's virtually certain that 2 Peter wasn't written by Peter or the Pastorals by Paul. But Ehrman's book on the subject tries to find reasons to attack the authorship of just about every book in the NT.

            Similarly, his picture of the historical Jesus is of a failed apocalyptic prophet. The idea that Jesus' Kingdom is only about the future, and an immediate future that didn't happen, is only one understanding. And I don't think it's that common. The failed apocalyptic prophet thing seems more like Schweitzer than current historical Jesus scholars.

            I've read several of his books. I think they'll all subtly slanted.
            Have you read any conservative evangelical scholarship in relation to traditional authorship?

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              Originally posted by Scrawly View Post
              Have you read any conservative evangelical scholarship in relation to traditional authorship?
              Yes.

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                Originally posted by hedrick View Post
                Yes.
                Can you please name some of the scholars you've read?

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