Sex as a Commodity

[dizzle]

Sex as a commodity. A woman as a commodity. A fetus as a disposable commodity. Marriage as an unnecessary commodity. Spiritual depth to interpersonal behavior an irrelevant commodity. Modesty from women, honor from men are archaic commodities.

Dr. Laura jams (http://www.drlaura.com/blog/2006/12/28/sex-as-a-commodity/)

[TCapp]

O brave new world,
That has such people in't

[Darth Executor]

It's this attitude that makes me wonder if I should bother to get married at all. If I do, I plan on being in it for life. I don't think most people do anymore though...

[dizzle]

Most don't unfortunately. I know I do, and what a difference it makes when hard times come when divorce simply is not an option on the table.

[Jon_Day]

i don't understand the first statement. Or any that follow.

[TuckEverlasting]

Most don't unfortunately.

That's... wow. That's sad. That kind of just hit me... it's probably true, isn't it, that most people today get married thinking 'well, if it doesn't work out, I can just get a divorce.' But I wonder how many expect that their marriage might not last. :hrm:

I know I do, and what a difference it makes when hard times come when divorce simply is not an option on the table.

Do 'hard times' come in your marriage? I don't want to pry, I just am trying to figure out if they come in every marriage.

[Darth Executor]

That's... wow. That's sad. That kind of just hit me... it's probably true, isn't it, that most people today get married thinking 'well, if it doesn't work out, I can just get a divorce.' But I wonder how many expect that their marriage might not last. :hrm:


Same sex marriage is legal in Canada you know. ;:)

[Shadow Phoenix]

I think as long as two people are in a relationship, hard times are going to come. Heck. I have hard times come with my friends on here. It's a fact of life.

I'm in it for life when it comes though myself. I am a very focused person on keeping any vow I make.

[dizzle]

Tuck, hard times come in every marriage. My husband and I have been through a few very rocky times, but we have been married almost twenty years, that is to be expected. Now, honestly, we hardly ever "fight." We disagree, but it hardly ever escalates into an actual argument. Now when we were younger, I was the one who kept up the fights, I was terrible.

[Jon_Day]

When people get married because they think it's a long-time love affair, they'll be divorced very soon, because all love affairs end in disappointment. But marriage is a recognition of a spiritual identity.

[Rusty T]

When people get married because they think it's a long-time love affair, they'll be divorced very soon, because all love affairs end in disappointment. But marriage is a recognition of a spiritual identity.

What the heck does 'spiritual identity' mean to an atheist? I'm serious.

BTW, great article (especially that part with the Pope guy :tongue: )

rusty

[Jon_Day]

What the heck does 'spiritual identity' mean to an atheist? I'm serious.

BTW, great article (especially that part with the Pope guy :tongue: )

rusty
what does spirit have to do with theism?

[Rusty T]

what does spirit have to do with theism?

So, you are a non-materialist atheist?

rusty

[Jon_Day]

So, you are a non-materialist atheist?

rusty

I am a transcendentalist, but there is no option. the closest is athiest. i do not support the majority of the tenants of theism. so i am a non-materialist, transcendentalist athiest. if we have to go putting "ist's" on things.

i very much believe in the "spiritual".

[Trout]

I just am trying to figure out if they come in every marriage.

Been married 22 years. And there have been MANY hard times. When we were younger and had more energy for fighting we had the cops called on us a couple of times.

But like Xena said, divorce is simply NOT an option, it's not even a remote consideration. Mrs. Trout and I have learned to get along better with each passing year, but we still have our occasional fight.