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Jillyn'Toast
December 28th 2006, 09:27 PM
I am absorbed with Lewis Carroll.

I've always loved Alice's Adventures in Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass. I also am a intrigued with The Hunting of the Snark. But, I recently began reading Sylvie and Bruno. This book had a Preface. I was very impressed with some things he had to say:

Perhaps the hardest thing in all literature-at least I have found it so: by no voluntary effort can I accomplish it: I have to take it as it comes-is to write anything original. And perhaps the easiest is, when once an original line has been struck out, to follow it up, and to write any amount more to the same tune. I do not know if "Alice in Wonderland" was an original story-I was, at least, no conscious immitator in writing it-but I do know that, since it came out, something like a dozen storybooks have timidly explored-believing myself to be "the first that ever burst into that silent sea"-is now a beaten highroad: all the way-side flowers have long ago been trampled into the dust: and it would be courting disaster for me to attempt that style again.

He wanted to write original stories, and he did. But, then after he wrote only two stories in one style, he abandon it and began writing a new style. I admire that so much. Alice used nonsense to teach children logic. There's something in that that is very beautiful to me. He uses logic, then, in Sylvie and Bruno to begin a fairy tale. He always ends his stories with a moral. They are never nonsense for the sake of nonsense. :smile:

The Curtmudgeon
January 30th 2007, 08:33 PM
I am absorbed with Lewis Carroll.

I've always loved Alice's Adventures in Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass. I also am a intrigued with The Hunting of the Snark. But, I recently began reading Sylvie and Bruno....

Sylvie and Bruno is certainly my favourite Carroll work (with Snark coming in close second). That's not to denigrate Alice, which I also thoroughly enjoy, but S&B is so much better. (BTW, you do know that, as originally published, there is also Sylvie and Bruno Concluded, right? You may have a combined edition, with both together, but check to be sure, otherwise you'll miss half the story.)

He wanted to write original stories, and he did. But, then after he wrote only two stories in one style, he abandon it and began writing a new style. I admire that so much. Alice used nonsense to teach children logic. There's something in that that is very beautiful to me. He uses logic, then, in Sylvie and Bruno to begin a fairy tale. He always ends his stories with a moral. They are never nonsense for the sake of nonsense. :smile:

And just as he stopped writing Alice stories after the two, so he never attempted anything like S&B afterwards, either. I do so love the story (probably apocryphal, but "if it isn't true, it ought to be") about him and Queen Victoria: After reading Alice, and being informed who the true author was (Dodgson didn't admit to being Carroll publically for a long time), she wrote him and asked if he would dedicate his next book to her. Sure enough, Dodgson's next work, a serious mathematical treatise completely removed from Lewis Carroll, was dedicated to the Queen. Served her right, if you ask me.

The (but he always used the very best nonsense) Curtmudgeon

Jillyn'Toast
February 5th 2007, 01:34 PM
Sylvie and Bruno is certainly my favourite Carroll work (with Snark coming in close second). That's not to denigrate Alice, which I also thoroughly enjoy, but S&B is so much better. (BTW, you do know that, as originally published, there is also Sylvie and Bruno Concluded, right? You may have a combined edition, with both together, but check to be sure, otherwise you'll miss half the story.)



And just as he stopped writing Alice stories after the two, so he never attempted anything like S&B afterwards, either. I do so love the story (probably apocryphal, but "if it isn't true, it ought to be") about him and Queen Victoria: After reading Alice, and being informed who the true author was (Dodgson didn't admit to being Carroll publically for a long time), she wrote him and asked if he would dedicate his next book to her. Sure enough, Dodgson's next work, a serious mathematical treatise completely removed from Lewis Carroll, was dedicated to the Queen. Served her right, if you ask me.

The (but he always used the very best nonsense) Curtmudgeon

I think I do have the conclusion to Sylvie and Bruno. I have a collection of those stories, it seems. I assume that they're sort of like "chapters" with each story being it's own chapter.

I'd heard the story of Queen Victoria slightly different. I heard she requested a signed copy of his most influential work (expecting Alice's Adventures) and recieved his best mathematical treatise. Either way, it does show how he thought of his own work. He wanted his writing skills to be comprehensive, not limited to one style. I think that he did this more than any other author I know.

I'm also impressed at the quality of his work in comparison to the quantity. From my experience, authors that end up writing several different stories (children's or otherwise) usually decrease in their quantity as volumes go on. It's difficult to keep up the novelty once you've given away all your secrets. But, because he abandoned styles of writing each time he began a new piece, his talent remained intact and clearly seen through his work. Again, it's something to really admire.

I'm such a librarian :frown: