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$cirisme
August 24th 2003, 09:55 AM
l337: IDE
non-l33t: Integrated Development Environment
What IDEs do you use for your coding? It doesn't have to be an IDE, just whatever you use to edit. :smile:
I use notepad for Perl, HTML, and PHP(I'm trying PHPEdit for that right now). Notepad for Java too :tongue: And I'm kinda stuck with M$ Visual C++ for C/C++.
Nothing but the best here :wink:
So, what do you use? :smile:
yxboom
August 24th 2003, 10:40 AM
133 EIDE , SCSI if I could afford it :teeth: :hrm:
Dee Dee Warren
August 24th 2003, 11:48 AM
It's all Greek to me.
$cirisme
August 24th 2003, 12:01 PM
DDW, I KNEW you were going to come comment on this thread... you simply could not resist. :teeth:
Sheepdog
August 24th 2003, 03:21 PM
DD, dont' you mean, "It's all l33t sp34k to me"? :borg:
AcousticJS
August 25th 2003, 12:09 PM
XML Spy for XML, XSLT and XSD
TopStyle for CSS and XHTML, or Dreamweaver MX when I'm at Uni.
jEdit for Java (when I did Java) or TextPad when I'm at Uni (that's if I'm not working on a Sun station)
I'm gonna try Microsoft's Web Matrix for ASP.NET coding - WYSIWYG and free!
For VB.NET and C# I'm using SharpDevelop at the moment.
I think that's about it. I've dabbled in Delphi as well. I'm not doing any hugely serious development at the moment tho. Just doin some light research and muck-abouts for my 3rd and final year at uni :yipee: :yipee: :yipee:
God bless
Jon
Bald Ape
August 25th 2003, 12:42 PM
IBM's Interactive System Productivity Facility (ISPF) Editor, for a common, business-orientated language (COBOL) and a job control language (JCL).
:help:
Also, TOAD for Oracle's PL/SQL language; vi for perl and shell scripting; and QMF for Windows for DB2 sql.
$cirisme
August 25th 2003, 12:44 PM
People still use COBOL?
:lol: :wink:
iLuke
August 25th 2003, 01:33 PM
PHP, HTML, CSS, JS and just about everything else... EditPlus
I've tried the Zend studio stuff but it felt bloated to me.
DreamweaveMX is nice, but I much rather something simpler.
-L
Sheepdog
August 25th 2003, 01:46 PM
HTML, notepad
CSS, notepad
XML, notepad
XSLT, you guessed it, notepad!
$cirisme
August 25th 2003, 01:49 PM
Sheepdog:
HTML, notepad
CSS, notepad
XML, notepad
XSLT, you guessed it, notepad!
Sounds like me :cir:
PHPEdit is alright... but I'm too used to notepad to even bother.
India
August 25th 2003, 02:07 PM
If anyone can recommend a good Java IDE for Windows, please let me know.
Sheepdog
August 25th 2003, 02:20 PM
[quote]If anyone can recommend a good Java IDE for Windows, please let me know.[/qutoe]
Notepad? :lmbo:
nomad
August 25th 2003, 03:39 PM
vim for just about everything, it is 10x better than notepad (if you really need a menu, try gVim). though since i do use visual C++, a lot of times after initial coding, all the updates are done through there.
Salus
August 25th 2003, 04:13 PM
XML Spy for XML, XSLT and XSD
Dreamweaver MX for HTML, CSS
ColdFusion Studio for HTML, Cold Fusion
ActiveState Komodo for PHP, Perl
Visual Studio .NET for pretty much everything
AcousticJS
August 25th 2003, 04:22 PM
If anyone can recommend a good Java IDE for Windows, please let me know.
Notepad is good. jEdit (http://www.jedit.org/) is also good - lots of plugins that can beautify your code, and let's you compile from within the editor menus. NetBeans (http://www.netbeans.com/) is ok if you want things like a visual form designer - overall I just found it a bit big, clunky and slow.
Both NetBeans and jEdit are written in Java, with jEdit being GPL I think, so you could get a look at the source code for some really :jade: fun!
God bless
Jon
Sheepdog
August 25th 2003, 04:23 PM
Today @ 02:07 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=193849#post193849)
India:
If anyone can recommend a good Java IDE for Windows, please let me know.
actually it is a good question. not that it is important, as all Javascript is good for is adding bells and whistles (IMO, HTML gives you about all the functionality you REALLY need for a site). but, i've looked at the script language, and it makes my brain hurt :stars:
Salus
August 25th 2003, 04:25 PM
Today @ 02:20 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=193857#post193857)
Sheepdog:
If anyone can recommend a good Java IDE for Windows, please let me know.
This one gets a lot of high marks from people that I know who code in JAVA.
IntelliJ Idea = http://www.intellij.com/idea/
Sheepdog
August 25th 2003, 04:33 PM
Today @ 01:49 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=193841#post193841)
cirisme:
Sounds like me :cir:
PHPEdit is alright... but I'm too used to notepad to even bother.
ah. yeah. for some reason i just prefer to have the actual code in front of me. once you get used to it, it gets pretty intuitive, i don't even have to look up HTML reference material because i know exactly what i need and how to set it up. plus i tend to be a "let's tear it apart and see how it works" kind of guy, so the learning process itself is really fun.
then again i can't tell you how many frustrated nights i stayed up, trying to figure who why the heck my page wasn't rendering right; all because of a missing quotation mark in an tag attribute somewhere. :argh:
$cirisme
August 25th 2003, 04:43 PM
Today @ 02:23 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=193951#post193951)
Sheepdog:
actually it is a good question. not that it is important, as all Javascript is good for is adding bells and whistles (IMO, HTML gives you about all the functionality you REALLY need for a site). but, i've looked at the script language, and it makes my brain hurt :stars:
Javascript and Java are two entirelyt different things.
$cirisme
August 25th 2003, 04:44 PM
Sheepdog:
ah. yeah. for some reason i just prefer to have the actual code in front of me. once you get used to it, it gets pretty intuitive, i don't even have to look up HTML reference material because i know exactly what i need and how to set it up. plus i tend to be a "let's tear it apart and see how it works" kind of guy, so the learning process itself is really fun.
then again i can't tell you how many frustrated nights i stayed up, trying to figure who why the heck my page wasn't rendering right; all because of a missing quotation mark in an tag attribute somewhere. :argh:
I haven't used an HTML editor since I redid my site 3 years ago. I prefer to get my hands dirty. :smile:
India
August 25th 2003, 04:55 PM
Thanks for the suggestions. We're using a defunct IDE (the company that makes it got bought out and it got discontinued) and have never gotten around to replacing it, even though it sucks.
NeilUnreal
August 25th 2003, 09:26 PM
I'm a tried and true Visual Studio C++ user, since the Windows 3.1 days. Before that it was Brief, 80x86 assembly, and the makefile to end all makefiles.
-Neil
Paulbarbee
August 27th 2003, 03:08 AM
08-25-2003 @ 01:07 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=193849#post193849)
India:
If anyone can recommend a good Java IDE for Windows, please let me know.
I use Borland Jbuilder 8 Personal for Java. It's next to last after their release version of 9 and it's a free download! :teeth: For HTML and Javascript I use Notepad. But I haven't done much real coding in several months.
jabberwocky
September 1st 2003, 06:05 AM
:deal: <-- notepad??
I can't believe how many of you guys use notepad! Do you not indent your code, or do you gain some twisted pleasure from hitting tab before the start of each line? To me, the autoindent feature would be worth writing a simple editor myself in preference to notepad, for almost any language i can think of (I'm excluding COBOL)... Anyway, vote UltraEdit (it has a hex-editor mode) and gvim for me. I found EditPlus was good for HTML and related (ASP, PHP...) coding, but never shelled out for a license.
You can probably see my agreement at least in preference for editors over actual IDEs - but I'll add props to JBuilder if you want an IDE for Java. I like to see my code.
Sheepdog
September 1st 2003, 03:18 PM
indent? what is this indent that you talk of?
AcousticJS
September 2nd 2003, 07:23 AM
indent? what is this indent that you talk of?
Please, tell me that you are joking and you do indent your code. Please. I couldn't cope with the fact that someone uses Notepad AND doesn't indent their code. Isn't life hard enough without pseudo-masochistic coding practices? :frown:
$cirisme
September 2nd 2003, 05:31 PM
I used to use Perl the way it was intended... a one liner with no indentation.
Well, I was going over code I wrote from 2 years ago... and needless to say I'm very good at indenting. :teeth:
Losvedir
September 9th 2003, 04:29 PM
sigh.... I don't understand you people....
Definitely Hydra all the way for C, Perl, HTML, javascript, etc.
I haven't started yet, but I intend to use Project Builder (with Interface Builder) (actually an IDE) for Cocoa apps. Project Builder is for the guts of the project, Interface Builder is for, well, designing the Interface.
I'd like to add that with Hydra, you can code with someone else at the same time. It's pretty rad. Over the net -- you both are looking at the same code, and you can see where the other person is typing, and they can see where you are typing. Oh, and Hydra has syntax coloring for your choice of something like 15 languages. Did I mention it's free?
When will you learn, that most everything is so much better on a mac... :teeth:
AcousticJS
September 9th 2003, 05:56 PM
Today @ 09:29 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=206970#post206970)
Losvedir:
When will you learn, that most everything is so much better on a mac... :teeth:
I was beginning to wonder what platform you were using with all these programs and IDEs (and even languages - Cocoa?) I'd never heard of. More and more, I'm getting tempted to sample the Mac platform. Only trouble it's expensive to buy an iBook or something just to play. The BSD-based OS X is doubly-tempting though.
:duh: *nix-based OSs :duh:
$cirisme
September 9th 2003, 06:01 PM
Build your own Mac. (http://www.techtv.com/screensavers/macintosh/story/0,24330,3411914,00.html) :teeth: :duh:
$cirisme
September 9th 2003, 06:01 PM
That's my next project when I get a couple hundred bucks to blow
Losvedir
September 9th 2003, 06:15 PM
Yeah... I've only very recently switched (in March, I believe) when I got a 15" G4 1.0Ghz Powerbook for $1800 (about $900 off) through a deal by a college I was thinking of attending. (A couple days after I got it I decided not to go to that college, so I felt kind of bad :doh:, but I'm at MIT now so I'm happy! :teeth:). Anyway... for the most part I'm extremely glad that I switched... the only thing I'm really missing is a Windows taskbar-esque ability to quickly and easily switch among open windows of different programs. If you do decide to get one, you should wait a couple months until after the new OS is released. Panther -- OS X 10.3 should be coming out soon, right now we're at Jaguar which is 10.2. That said, I know people who run os x on g3's, so it shouldn't be too expensive to get into it at the bottom, "just to play." :wink:
Oh, Cocoa is pretty cool. It's an object oriented language for Macs that's similar to Visual Basic, but with a C-like core. It allows you to fairly easily produce a program that appears identical to standard Mac apps.
Hey, if the developers of X-Plane (http://www.x-plane.com/descrip.html) use powerbooks, I figure I should, too.
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