I can see the day where Christianity or at least what people call Orthodox, corrupts and falls at the seams. The whole idea of the trinity makes no sense at all. People need to wake up and see the light. Three persons? One entity? That doesn't work. Its quite apparent, even with scripture that Jesus and God the Father are two separate entities. One day, we are going to see the uprising of the Mormon people. Stand and Unite for the LDS church, and praise our founder of the religion, Joseph Smith.
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Originally posted by Apocalypticsights View PostI can see the day where Christianity or at least what people call Orthodox, corrupts and falls at the seams. The whole idea of the trinity makes no sense at all. People need to wake up and see the light. Three persons? One entity? That doesn't work. Its quite apparent, even with scripture that Jesus and God the Father are two separate entities. One day, we are going to see the uprising of the Mormon people. Stand and Unite for the LDS church, and praise our founder of the religion, Joseph Smith.
I'll admit the the Trinity is something that's hard to wrap one's brain around, but I don't think it's as nonsensical as you make it out to be. I also don't think you're doing justice to the concept either. It's three persons, one essence(or nature), not one "entity". Maybe you could go through some of the information here, under Trinity. I know it's a lot, but this isn't exactly a simple subject. At least not for most of us. Although the one who owns that website has a book called "The Trinity Made Simple". I haven't gotten to read the book, but perhaps he really does that. It's something I need to read(and buy) when I get a chance.
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Originally posted by Apocalypticsights View PostI can see the day where Christianity or at least what people call Orthodox, corrupts and falls at the seams. The whole idea of the trinity makes no sense at all. People need to wake up and see the light. Three persons? One entity? That doesn't work. Its quite apparent, even with scripture that Jesus and God the Father are two separate entities. One day, we are going to see the uprising of the Mormon people. Stand and Unite for the LDS church, and praise our founder of the religion, Joseph Smith.
The Trinity is going nowhere. And even if every single person on earth abandoned belief in the Trinity it still would not mean that it is false, it would only mean that everyone on earth is wrong about this issue.
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First of all, I'm not the right race to be of Islam faith. I am not Muslim. Only Muslims should be Islamic.
Second, the Mormon faith is the only faith that teaches love and acceptance. Thats what our almighty God sent down to Joseph Smith through visions. I also believe through visions I have seen the greatness of God and the one and only truth to be of the Mormon faith. I have seen my birth before I was conceived through the almighty eternal eye of God. Mormonism says I was in heaven at first before I was conceived to be born. Since I have seen this vision and the countless irrefutable truths in the Book of Mormon, I have no recourse but to believe the prophecies of Joseph Smith and my own.
Why does Jesus pray to God in the garden? What is the whole purpose of that if they are not separate entities? The whole of the trinity does not make sense.
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Originally posted by Apocalypticsights View PostFirst of all, I'm not the right race to be of Islam faith. I am not Muslim. Only Muslims should be Islamic.
Second, the Mormon faith is the only faith that teaches love and acceptance. Thats what our almighty God sent down to Joseph Smith through visions. I also believe through visions I have seen the greatness of God and the one and only truth to be of the Mormon faith. I have seen my birth before I was conceived through the almighty eternal eye of God. Mormonism says I was in heaven at first before I was conceived to be born. Since I have seen this vision and the countless irrefutable truths in the Book of Mormon, I have no recourse but to believe the prophecies of Joseph Smith and my own.
Why does Jesus pray to God in the garden? What is the whole purpose of that if they are not separate entities? The whole of the trinity does not make sense.
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Originally posted by Apocalypticsights View PostDo you consider Jew a race? I do.
You don't have to take my word for it, though. Just ask anyone. Consult a dictionary or an encyclopedia if that helps.
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostTechnically it's an ethnicity, but for the sake of simplicity I'm willing to regard Jewishness as both a race and a religion. The same is simply not true of the word "Muslim", which simply describes an individual who ascribes to Islam. There are Arab Muslims, Asian Muslims, African Muslims, European Muslims, and so on. Muslim does not, in any way, shape, or form refer to shared biological similarities as do designators like: black, caucasian, asian, indian, aborigine, etc.
You don't have to take my word for it, though. Just ask anyone. Consult a dictionary or an encyclopedia if that helps.
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Originally posted by Apocalypticsights View PostFirst of all, I'm not the right race to be of Islam faith. I am not Muslim. Only Muslims should be Islamic.
Second, the Mormon faith is the only faith that teaches love and acceptance.
2. What about love and acceptance for same-sex couples, you bigot?
3 (and this is the one that actually represents my perspective). "Only"? Seriously? Is Mormonism the only religion that has John's epistles in its scriptures?
Thats what our almighty God sent down to Joseph Smith through visions. I also believe through visions I have seen the greatness of God and the one and only truth to be of the Mormon faith. I have seen my birth before I was conceived through the almighty eternal eye of God. Mormonism says I was in heaven at first before I was conceived to be born. Since I have seen this vision and the countless irrefutable truths in the Book of Mormon, I have no recourse but to believe the prophecies of Joseph Smith and my own.Don't call it a comeback. It's a riposte.
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Originally posted by Spartacus View PostAdrift corrected you sufficiently on this point.
1. Hi, my name is shunyadragon, and I would like to speak with you about the Bahai faith.
2. What about love and acceptance for same-sex couples, you bigot?
3 (and this is the one that actually represents my perspective). "Only"? Seriously? Is Mormonism the only religion that has John's epistles in its scriptures?
I'll not get into the archaeological and historical questions related to the Book of Mormon's accuracy. Instead, I'll just raise my eyebrow at your claims about receiving visions, and wonder what your response is to claims in places like Fatima and Lourdes of people saying they were visited by Jesus' mother.
2) Christianity is an okay religion, its just incomplete. The totality of love and acceptance is not found in the Christian belief structure, but obviously the love of Jesus is there.
3)Who is to say that they were not visited by Jesus's mother?
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Originally posted by Apocalypticsights View Post1) God does not create homosexuals. That is a choice. It is not what God created them to be.
3)Who is to say that they were not visited by Jesus's mother?Don't call it a comeback. It's a riposte.
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Originally posted by Apocalypticsights View PostI can see the day where Christianity or at least what people call Orthodox, corrupts and falls at the seams. The whole idea of the trinity makes no sense at all. People need to wake up and see the light. Three persons? One entity? That doesn't work. Its quite apparent, even with scripture that Jesus and God the Father are two separate entities. One day, we are going to see the uprising of the Mormon people. Stand and Unite for the LDS church, and praise our founder of the religion, Joseph Smith.That's what
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Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Apocalypticsights View PostMormonism says I was in heaven at first before I was conceived to be born.That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Apocalypticsights View PostDo you consider Jew a race? I do.That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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