This guy deserves a Darwin award.

[AtheistArchon]

http://www.datalounge.com/datalounge/news/record.html?record=20953


Grant E. Storms, a far right pastor who for years has organized anti-gay protests in the French Quarter, was issued a court summons after scuffling with a security guard at a predominantly gay bar on Sunday.

[...]

Storms is a persistent critic of the annual Southern Decadence Festival, and led a group of about 200 Christian protesters through the crowds Friday night with a bullhorn shouting anti-gay slogans.

- Amazing the man and his flock were not seriously hurt. It kind of reminds me of... was it SNL? Kentucky Fried Movie? A stunt man dressed up kind of like Super Dave Osborne goes for the ultimate death-defying stunt: he walks into the ghetto and into a group of black gang members and yells at the top of his lungs, "N----RRRRR!!!"

[Sher]

:smack:

When are people going to learn that this is NOT the way to correct the problem? He'd have done much better to take those people and lobby to have the festival shut down than to create a scene ... one that had no chance of changing a blasted thing.

[Solly]

I thought you could only get the Darwin Award posthumously, or is that posthumorously?

[The Laughing Man]

DAs are for the (semi-recently) deceased.

So what exactly constitutes "anti-gay slogans?" Is this guy like Fred Phelps or is he more of the typical "love the sinner, not the sin" Christian? (I know that to homosexuals and their supporters, there is no difference whatsoever.)

[John Boy]

Darwin Awards are for those who remove themselves from the gene pool because of their own stupidity. You can, however, get an honorary Darwin Award if you survive but lose the ability to reproduce. :eek:

For fun, here's a link:
http://www.darwinawards.com/

Take care. :smile:

[The Laughing Man]

Their message boards are quite atheistic-leaning (not surprising considering the name of the website).

Beware mentioning anything about the Texas A&M homecoming tragedy a few years back.

[A2SG]

Yesterday @ 08:26 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=203234#post203234)
Jinx72:

So what exactly constitutes "anti-gay slogans?" Is this guy like Fred Phelps or is he more of the typical "love the sinner, not the sin" Christian? (I know that to homosexuals and their supporters, there is no difference whatsoever.)
Seems to me that a difference that makes no difference is no difference. I know that those who profess the "hate homosexuality, but not homosexuals" mean well, but if its hard to see the distinction, maybe they should examine the way they present it. Just a thought.

I do know, however, that a lot of my personal self-image is based in a large part to my sexual orientation: I'm a husband and father, and that defines the vast majority of my life...so it'd be hard for me to not take coments from someone who professes hate toward being a husband or a father personally.

-- A2SG, or perhaps professing hate for internet posters.....

[Bob Jenkins]

"love the sinner," might just have unintended consequences in New Orleans

[Sher]

Yesterday @ 08:26 PM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=203234#post203234)
Jinx72:

DAs are for the (semi-recently) deceased.

So what exactly constitutes "anti-gay slogans?" Is this guy like Fred Phelps or is he more of the typical "love the sinner, not the sin" Christian? (I know that to homosexuals and their supporters, there is no difference whatsoever.)

I take if from the write up ... not that that is the end all of truth ... that he is more of the Fred Phelps variety. Regardless ... it was was a stupid action that wouldn't have a chance of being productive.

[Bob Jenkins]

"love the sinner, not the sin" ... (I know that to homosexuals and their supporters, there is no difference whatsoever.)

I am one of those supporters that fails to see a difference. I see, as long as homosexuality is classified as sin, there will always be opposition to full attainment of civil rights for homosexuals.

[Sher]

Today @ 06:59 AM post located here (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=203547#post203547)
Bob Jenkins:

I am one of those supporters that fails to see a difference. I see, as long as homosexuality is classified as sin, there will always be opposition to full attainment of civil rights for homosexuals.

I disagree Bob. Sin needs to be "classified" ... all sin. We are all sinners ... but we are all still entitled to basic civil rights. That should be a given.

:shersig:

[AtheistArchon]

I disagree Bob. Sin needs to be "classified" ... all sin. We are all sinners ...

- This is your religious belief, yes. But it's not a fact. I think that's what BJ was trying to say.

- Civil rights, as prescribed by the government, do not take "sin" into consideration... or at least they shouldn't. Sin is a religious belief.

[Vigilante]

A person who wants to truely "help" said person can really only do a couple things. One is to pray for them. The second is to do what you would do with any other person on the planet, and that is to preach the gospel. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying they should have preached instead of yelled anti-slogans or whatever. But they could have, I don't know, done SOMETHING else. Or nothing. But not THAT! They might as well have thrown stones and torched the place.

What I'm driving at is basically, you don't make a Christian by making them feel bad about a sin. You don't convice a person to become Christian by scientifically proving God. You can't make a Christian by proving a biblical account like the flood. As if somebody would say "prove the flood happened, and I'll believe". It just doesn't work that way. Nor would somebody convert because some loony outside my gay bar is yelling insults at me. Now there is great marketing for the Christian!

Conversion takes place from hearing the gospel. God speaks to them, they feel convicted of their own lifestyle and sins. The conversion is from inside, out. Not from the outside and in. It happens. This "group" would have done better to simply leave some kind of liturature on all their vehicles or something.
Note that in God's eyes, one group of sinner in a gay bar, is no less evil then a group of guys playing football at the park. "ALL have sinned, and come short", says the Word. But I don't see this group throwing a ralley at the local football field or basketball court or gym. Where it would be equally necessary to spread the Word.

Early church founders (apostles) would go around just preaching "repent!" and that was nearly all that was needed. They didn't go around saying, "you sir in the brown leather sandels, you cheated on your wife and are going to hell unless you repent now!" No, the message of "repent" was universal and applied to ALL people and ALL sins. However, when Jesus ministered, because he knew the heart of the people he talked with, WOULD actually pinpoint some sin. Such as the woman at the well, or the rich young ruler. He would bring right out their "biggest" sins, so to speak, and it would speak to them. But note, He WAS the living water, He didn't have to preach repent, because he was right there, offering to them in person.
Ok, but now I'm the one preaching, sorry. I'm just saying, as a Christian, a lot of my peers, I guess you could call them, certainly come up with some strange ideas for trying to reach people. But put the blame where it is due, on the PERSON, not on the faith of Christianity, or the Holy Bible and its teaching. Such instances as this come down to human stupidity, as always, and should not be used as a case against the faith. Not that I'm saying anyone is, but these cases are sometimes used that way, wrongly.

Good night!

[JusticeMachine]

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- Amazing the man and his flock were not seriously hurt. It kind of reminds me of... was it SNL? Kentucky Fried Movie? A stunt man dressed up kind of like Super Dave Osborne goes for the ultimate death-defying stunt: he walks into the ghetto and into a group of black gang members and yells at the top of his lungs, "N----RRRRR!!!"


It was Kentucky Fried Movie. I love the "Fist Full of Yen" Scetch.