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Nazaroo
June 12th 2007, 12:04 PM
I have created a new page on women in the Western media, showing that systemic attitudes continue to be perpetuated and entrenched in young people's culture.

There is a disproportionate amount of women-bashing going on in the media, which originates in gay-culture circles, and gay men turn a blind eye toward this. Heterosexual men take all the heat for women-bashing, but as my examples show, the gay community is as bad if not worse than straight society, when it comes to clubbing women over the head.

Women Bashing in the Media (http://adultera.awardspace.com/WOMEN/women-media.html) <-- Click here.

Peace,
Nazaroo

Timothy Leary
June 12th 2007, 09:25 PM
Been smoking a bit too much crack lately?

James Peter
June 12th 2007, 09:54 PM
There is no such thing as too much crack.

dizzle
June 12th 2007, 10:01 PM
Amen! There is never too much crack.

Timothy Leary
June 13th 2007, 01:07 AM
Amen! There is never too much crack.
Only because you have a never-ending crack. :hehe:

Nazaroo
June 14th 2007, 11:18 AM
Original Thesis:There is a disproportionate amount of women-bashing going on in the media, which originates in gay-culture circles, and gay men turn a blind eye toward this. Heterosexual men take all the heat for women-bashing, but as my examples show, the gay community is as bad if not worse than straight society, when it comes to clubbing women over the head.



Here are the actual links to the examples which were simply listed on the webpage deleted apparently for reasons of "advertising":

All the statements here are my own opinion, illustrated by real-world examples:


These are professional "humour" pieces produced by a media largely dominated and controlled by wealthy gay interests, and the content reflects their 'humorous' attitude toward women bashing:

All of these videos avoid explicit content such as nudity or extreme foul language, to make sure that they gain 'General Audience' ratings. The fact that they can be posted on YouTube is an indication of their content rating:

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Women as 'simple animals' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KCKFw7Wkgs) <-- Click Here

Example 1: Herein is our first example of a kind of 'woman-bashing' in the guise of humour. Women are presented as 'simple' creatures to be studied like other lower animals, and it is 'humorously' suggested they can be 'handled' by a knowledge of their 'cycle' of drinking, anger, dependancy and sleep.

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Women as 'prey' for sport (http://axiomsun.com/home/video/banging_math_bus_tax_season.html) <-- Click Here

Example 2: Here although there is no por no graphy shown, the adventure is modelled after a widespread practice of enticing people to engage in dangerous activities, sometimes for money, and exploiting them in a variety of ways.
The video illustrates well that it isn't only the money that is involved, but there is a 'payoff' in humiliating and mocking the victim, which here has been neatly separated from the activity (po rn making) normally masking it.

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Rape as a 'humorous' topic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zvTRQr7ns8) <-- Click Here

Example 3: Here a serious subject almost always involving extreme violence against women is made light of, by a cast of comedians whose philosophy is pretty much 'anything goes'. How should a real rape victim feel in response to this video?

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Although individually each is only a "piece of the puzzle" of gay community misogyny, together they present a horrific and disturbing philosophy which is made light of and even glorified.

We are not denying a surface 'humour' or funniness to these videos: they are humour pieces.

But viewed as a 'norm' for humour and attitudes, and sold to the public and targeted for young audiences in particular, this constitutes a platform, an agenda meant to indoctrinate and de-sensitize North Americans from the horror, significance, and actual consequences for these viewpoints.

Let us hope that this "Debate" Forum is willing and able to discuss important political issues of an adult nature like adults.

Peace,
Nazaroo

I have deleted this post for its arguments by weblink. I have reversed the moderation on the opening post as incorrect, and restored that post.

Tlalynet
June 15th 2007, 01:18 AM
This tailed off of being a serious topic...
I dont get involved in media enough I guess. What Ive seen is more of a tennency to reduce everyone to animals in secular comedy ect. I dont really know much about the topic, just trying to get it back on track.
You probably did that too but you got a moderator thing, are you on someone bad side here?

Nazaroo
June 15th 2007, 01:22 AM
This tailed off of being a serious topic...
I dont get involved in media enough I guess. What Ive seen is more of a tennency to reduce everyone to animals in secular comedy ect. I dont really know much about the topic, just trying to get it back on track.
You probably did that too but you got a moderator thing, are you on someone bad side here?


I wish I knew what was going on. I dare not comment further.

Peace,
Nazaroo

Tlalynet
June 15th 2007, 01:30 AM
Fair enough. Hope you get it all sorted out or something...

Chaotic Void
June 18th 2007, 12:47 AM
I don't really think there is a specific group who is at fault for women-bashing.

What I think is the problem is what's being done about it, which is Virtually nothing [my guess ast to why: there is men-bashing also].

Nazaroo
June 18th 2007, 02:19 PM
Yes, the "woman - bashing" is so systemic and pervades so many cultures and places that it is hard to nail it down!

But even if it can't be easily defined as a crime or prosecuted without unfairness (how could one possibly arrest and charge ALL participants?) it can be addressed as social issue, like racism or any other obvious flaw in our thinking and behaviour.

Peace
Nazaroo

Bill the Cat
June 19th 2007, 07:38 PM
Nazaroo, the links you provided show simulations of sex, which is against decorum. Sorry, but that's just not allowed.

Nazaroo
July 4th 2007, 12:59 AM
Well, your objections are perfectly understandable, Bill.

However, those videos don't show anything graphic, or expose any nudity. In fact they are crudely suggestive however of acts, in the humour skits.

In any case, unfortunately, it is quite difficult to deal with real critically important social issues and current news events without inevitably involving some verbal and graphic (i.e. photographic) playback of events, and these discussions and reports must reasonably accurately describe the events and issues under examination, in the interests of truth and scientific analysis.

I can't see any way currently to avoid some loss of decorum if you are going to deal with serious subjects. We can minimise, but not avoid or forbid open and honest discussion of moral and ethical issues.

The third video is unnecessary for my argument (presumably the one you are objecting to), however, people could be misled into thinking that there was no problem, or that the problem I am discussing was exaggerated.

Your reaction to the videos (deletion of the links) however, only underlines and proves my case, that this kind of humour is not only objectionable on grounds of decorum', but involve violations of human rights which are naturally offensive to sensitive people.

You have proven my point. These "humour" pieces are offensive and deeply immoral, contributing the corruption of society and ethical standards. They represent a long slide down a slippery slope of public approval and tolerance.

Consider this: in 1950, these humour videos would be banned in most North American communities and those creating them would have been arrested on obscenity charges.

Yet in 2007 these videos can be posted on YouTube in the FAMILY section, just as the off-color jokes and non-stop barrage of sexual innuendoes are allowed on family television and even Disney films supposedly made "for children".

Peace,
Nazaroo

Timothy Leary
July 4th 2007, 01:17 AM
Saying that gay guys promote women bashing is like saying that nyphomaniacs promote chastity.