spauline
July 17th 2007, 02:49 AM
A friend wrote:
Can't any of you understand? When Christ said 'many will say I am he." and mentions that he will not come and that their would be tribulation such has never been since there was a nation nor will be again; the idea that you're all going to waltz into heaven is comical, after all, he said we are going to need be baptized with the same baptism he was. Yes, some are far more innocent and will not have as much tribulation, but it doesn't matter if you're a Christian or not, I guaranty that in the end time, everyone will be seeking Christ. Do you really think Christ is so cold as to not inform people bluntly and concretely through the divine signs and lamentations of those times. St. Peter had to often be corrected until he realized that salvation was meant for everyone, I guess it is going to take a pretty rude awaking for contemporary Christian to realize he meant everyone literately. I know deep within my bosom that my tribulation will probably be tremendous, but I see this as a necessary process of eliminating my flesh and learning the necessary truth which will set me free in spirit.
I responded:
Dear <Name Omitted>,
God Bless your earnestness to will the salvation of all men.
I meet you half way, my dear brother. I beleive that modern humanity is still curable, redeemable spriitually. For indeed, the modern world is scandalized by the bad things that have been done in the name of religion, as well as the sad and great divisions. Indeed, because the pursuit of religious truth has left us with a big *** can of worms, the world would rather not even go there. It's easier just to say, I'm not gonna deal with. Just live a normal life and don't care about doctrine.
Again, I don't see this a totally condemnable mindset at this point in human history. And, yes, I agree, a chastisement is probably what it will take to restore the faith. Indeed, in this regard, you are in the good company of the mystics, even though the Church approaches this question with caution, and even a sense of "but probably not because of sin, the weeds...."
But alas, I have utter faith that through abandoning humanity into the consequences of their errors, God can show them the various darknesses for what they are. For the modern world considers the true light the darkness and the true darkness the light. But when humanity gradually enters the fruits of the darkness, they will gradually see that this darkness is not light, but in fact darkness. And then, as they see the darkness for what it truly is, how much more so shall the light of the Gospel shine and be noticable. And, in the midst of the darkness, they shall come BACK into the light that they had forsaken, and God shall gather all His Children from the various foreign SPIRIUAL lands back into the Promised Land, which is the Church. Hence, the Muslims and the Orthodox, and the Protestants, and the Deists and the Rationalists, as well as the full apostates, shall all come home, like the Prodigal Son. and The Father shall embrace them, and put on him a new robe and celebrate.
And so, if the mystics are right, the near totality of humanity WILL come into Salvation in the second to last era of human history. But, <??>, even the near total Catholicization of humanity cannot LAST. For the fallen nature is "working", as St. Paul states. Humanity cannot be brought into a PERMANENT embrace of the truth. Inevitably, even if they come as a near whole to embrace it in full, with time they will go tired of spiritual and materialistic prosperity. In time, they shall commit the ultimate insult, even as demons did. For it is presumed by some theologians (and seems corroborated by Our Lord to Faustina) that the demons KNEW the whole Plan, they knew everything that the Church will eventually know, and still they turned away from God, radically, irrevocably, unforgivably.
It is highly likely that the Gentiles shall, for a great era, accept the Gospel, but they will not be able to persevere. For the thrid time Christ fell, He could no longer raise Himself in His Human Nature. So it is in the end: in the third time the Gentiles fall (the modern present crisis is the second), they will not be able to get up.
Can't any of you understand? When Christ said 'many will say I am he." and mentions that he will not come and that their would be tribulation such has never been since there was a nation nor will be again; the idea that you're all going to waltz into heaven is comical, after all, he said we are going to need be baptized with the same baptism he was. Yes, some are far more innocent and will not have as much tribulation, but it doesn't matter if you're a Christian or not, I guaranty that in the end time, everyone will be seeking Christ. Do you really think Christ is so cold as to not inform people bluntly and concretely through the divine signs and lamentations of those times. St. Peter had to often be corrected until he realized that salvation was meant for everyone, I guess it is going to take a pretty rude awaking for contemporary Christian to realize he meant everyone literately. I know deep within my bosom that my tribulation will probably be tremendous, but I see this as a necessary process of eliminating my flesh and learning the necessary truth which will set me free in spirit.
I responded:
Dear <Name Omitted>,
God Bless your earnestness to will the salvation of all men.
I meet you half way, my dear brother. I beleive that modern humanity is still curable, redeemable spriitually. For indeed, the modern world is scandalized by the bad things that have been done in the name of religion, as well as the sad and great divisions. Indeed, because the pursuit of religious truth has left us with a big *** can of worms, the world would rather not even go there. It's easier just to say, I'm not gonna deal with. Just live a normal life and don't care about doctrine.
Again, I don't see this a totally condemnable mindset at this point in human history. And, yes, I agree, a chastisement is probably what it will take to restore the faith. Indeed, in this regard, you are in the good company of the mystics, even though the Church approaches this question with caution, and even a sense of "but probably not because of sin, the weeds...."
But alas, I have utter faith that through abandoning humanity into the consequences of their errors, God can show them the various darknesses for what they are. For the modern world considers the true light the darkness and the true darkness the light. But when humanity gradually enters the fruits of the darkness, they will gradually see that this darkness is not light, but in fact darkness. And then, as they see the darkness for what it truly is, how much more so shall the light of the Gospel shine and be noticable. And, in the midst of the darkness, they shall come BACK into the light that they had forsaken, and God shall gather all His Children from the various foreign SPIRIUAL lands back into the Promised Land, which is the Church. Hence, the Muslims and the Orthodox, and the Protestants, and the Deists and the Rationalists, as well as the full apostates, shall all come home, like the Prodigal Son. and The Father shall embrace them, and put on him a new robe and celebrate.
And so, if the mystics are right, the near totality of humanity WILL come into Salvation in the second to last era of human history. But, <??>, even the near total Catholicization of humanity cannot LAST. For the fallen nature is "working", as St. Paul states. Humanity cannot be brought into a PERMANENT embrace of the truth. Inevitably, even if they come as a near whole to embrace it in full, with time they will go tired of spiritual and materialistic prosperity. In time, they shall commit the ultimate insult, even as demons did. For it is presumed by some theologians (and seems corroborated by Our Lord to Faustina) that the demons KNEW the whole Plan, they knew everything that the Church will eventually know, and still they turned away from God, radically, irrevocably, unforgivably.
It is highly likely that the Gentiles shall, for a great era, accept the Gospel, but they will not be able to persevere. For the thrid time Christ fell, He could no longer raise Himself in His Human Nature. So it is in the end: in the third time the Gentiles fall (the modern present crisis is the second), they will not be able to get up.