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Why won't people come forth with evidence for miracles instead of using empty rhetoric?

Theists merely assume His omni-qualities without ever giving evidence for them; their intuitions just don't work. Now, those who propose limited God do presuppose evil as diminishing His omni-qualities.
The superfluity argument alone eviscerates Him as it notes His being a useless redundancy,despite Alister Earl McGrath.
Lamberth's argument from scientific credulity requires that people use evidence to find Him, and agin, to give evidence of how He operates in the Cosmos [ the Polyverse].
Tehnomange, pellucid remark! How does He use intent-purpose- to operate in the Cosmos?
Anontheist and SatantheAlien, what do you maintain about divine purpose-ntent-teleology when science only bespeaks mechanism?

I invite others to add their wisdom to this thread to discuss humanism.
The Euthyphro cuts off divine command theories. Aquinas cannot gainsay it by declaring that His nature is good, for that begs the question. We can further discuss the Euthyphro and divine comand theory at the new thread the blasphemy of divine commands.

We have determined volition, Dennett determinism or choice determinism. Thua, how could putative God test our non-existent free wills for soul-making [ John HIck is forever dead, never to reside in Heaven, so no soul-making for him,despite his good acts, including supporting Amnesty International!
Again, theists can never seriously respond to Fr. Meslier's the problem of Heaven! Recompense in Heaven for enduring horrors reflects on a sadist's twisted view!
All the defenses and theodicies glorify the mere whims and tastes of putative God, of those misanthropes who just made Him up! We sentient beings are more important than His mere wanting that relationship!
By the way, physics gainsays telepathic God! How else would he communicate with us?

We have determined volition, Dennett determinism or choice determinism. Thus, how could putative God test our non-existent free wills for soul-making [ John Hick is forever dead, never to reside in Heaven, so no soul-making for him,despite his good acts, including supporting Amnesty International!].
Again, theists can never seriously respond to Fr. Meslier's the problem of Heaven! Recompense in Heaven for enduring horrors reflects on a sadist's twisted view!
All the defenses and theodicies glorify the mere whims and tastes of putative God, of those misanthropes who just made Him up! We sentient beings are more important than His mere wanting that relationship!
By the way, physics gainsays telepathic God! How else would he communicate with us?

How does God operate in the Cosmos? How does He operate behind the scenes? How might we discern how He operates?
To merely assume His operations, theists just beg the question. Theists must give evidence of how He operates other than the argument from ignorance!
How can a brainless entity operate as the argument from physical mind queries? How can a mind that cannot think operates as McCormick's queries? How can an entity operate without manifesting any intent as the Coyne-Mayr-Lamberth queries? How can a perfect being operate with all the imperfections as the Star Trekk argument and Hume's dysteological argument query? How can a Creator operate when science illuminates how the Multivese operates without any Creator?
Again, without illuminating how He operates, other than by the magic of let it be, theists merely falsely assume His operations!

I welcome anontheist as a fellow rationalist!

This is a moral realist theory akin to metaphysical and scientific realism in finding facts. It use the subjectivism of our evolved morals sense to find objective morality. We have to refine that moral sense.
As it determines right and wrong by consequences, it thereby escapes any criticism based on the consequencs! It reflects ethical naturalism.

This is a moral realist theory akin to metaphysical and scientific realism in finding facts. It use the subjectivism of our evolved morals sense to find objective morality. We have to refine that moral sense.
As it determines right and wrong by consequences, it thereby escapes any criticism based on the consequencs! It reflects ethical naturalism.

I heartily concur, Zorathruster!

Thanks about the insight about Persia! I understand that Jewry started to accept the future state from Zoroastrianism [ now Parseeism].Some maintain that that religion is duethistic- good God and evil God.