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  1. Natural causes for miracles = no God?

    Quote Originally posted by Genesius View Post
    What if over time and through our discoveries in sub-atomic physics and the nature of the universe we find that there are natural i.e. explainable in scientific quantifiable terms, "causes" for miraculous events, does this mean there is no God?

    As is often pointed out, in ancient times now explainable natural events were often perceived as miraculous. In the period known as The Enlightment many of these "miracles" were shown to have natural, explainable causes.
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  2. Aquinas's argument from Contingency revisited

    Quote Originally posted by Griggsy View Post
    Craig's arguments against infinities are just red herrings. He conflates finite and infinite mathematics to arrive at his silly contradictions.

    Science finds no absolute beginning of the Comsos as that would contradict the law of conservation applied to the quantum fields. His obfuscations boomerang on him, showing him to be just another sophist.
    His defense of divine genocide reveals his sorry moral code, which then cannot be any objective one!
    He distorts what
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  3. So where do you get your morals?

    Quote Originally posted by Griggsy View Post
    Zorathruster has a neat point. I refer y'all to my thread natural morality- the presumption of humanism.
    Morality should be conducive to the human good, not centered on what people say is the divine command. It needs no divine policeman to get people to do good.
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  4. Arguments about God

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    The ultimate naturalist argument is the empirical one: no evidence exists for God. I contend that theists misinterpet evidence instead of proffering it.
    The fine-tuning-strong anthropic argument- contends that God set the parameters of the Cosmos, but as Carneades' atelic argument notes, that begs the question. As the products of necessity- natural selection and randomness [ as far as intent for our benefit concerns itself] -nothing pre-ordained us to evolve as the Coyne-Mayr-Lamberth
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  5. Atheists' arguments are mockery and parody against God..

    Quote Originally posted by Griggsy View Post
    None can vouch for the Tanakh and the Testament. Indeed, archaeologists and historians and scientists find it quite wrong. Oh,and any message about salvation is irrational!
    We rationalists mock a square circle. Study the thread arguments about God.
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