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  1. Arguments about God

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    [I ]No, the quantum energy is eternal in line with the law of conservation. Aquinas and poor,poor Feser are making the equivocation betwixt a real origination from nothing and the acutal transformation of matter -energy. The former is absurd whilst, as just noted, the latter exists forever.
    Thus, Creator God still means no sort of explanation, and He does not act behind or in the Metaverse, thus He is forever unemployed!
    God of the scientific
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  2. the presumption of naturalism

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    This presumption means commmon ground for both supernaturalists and naturalists. We both discern external reality and other minds and such as basic whilst the supernatural impinges only should supernaturalists can give evidence for it.
    Definition,faith, postulation, presuppositionalism and warrant cannot instantiate God!
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  3. Arguments about God

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    Aquinas' fourth way is his ontological argument,which reifies the continuum betwixt qualities.
    He maintains that God is that ultimate perfection of all good qualities. But reifiying the continuum thus fails as do all his five ways yet Feser refuses to rise above him, thereby exposing himself as lacking in philosophical judgment!
    Aquinas' fifth way fails, as it is like a bowman who puts the bull's-eye around the arrow after it has landed. Carneades' atelic
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  4. Arguments about God

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    Yes, that was rushed and stupid of me.
    Heck, I can understand that--though I think I'm in a superior position to you in that I don't have to be rushed to get stupid.

    How does the heart's origin being accidental imply it doesn't have a natural end?
    There is part of the problem--how do you define "end." We need to take a close look at that concept.

    In Aristotle's conception, of course, the "end" was the telos--a
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  5. the ignotist and Occam arguments

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    Not only do His attributes show incoherence and contradict each other, making for ignostiism, but the very arguments for Him do as well, and so, ignostiicsm contrary to Dr. Ayers is integral to atheism.The terms First Cause, Grand Designer and Miracle Monger[ my two terms] have no reference to reality and so , are meaningless in that sense., affirming ignostiicsm.
    In this sense, I differ with my friend, Mr. David Ramsay Steele in " Atheism Explained: from Folly to Philosophy,"
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