Griggsy

Originally posted by Griggsy

headheart, your religious experience is only the actions of your mental states ,colored by your beliefs, that thus can never evidence a metaphysical reality!
One can certainly meditate with the whole body.
atanholydevil,you're giving a good layman's opinion as you fathom the reality thereof of - how the mind works whereas headheart emotes nonsense, implying that only believers can know the truth of prayer whereas we others know that prayer is no more effective than meditation

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Originally posted by Tanakh Keeper

Originally posted by Griggsy

Augustine argues that we are restless unless we are in the bosom of God. Paul Tillich and preachers so think, There is no evidence for this argument for God; they rely on anxieties which therapy can overcome. This is the argument form angst.

This argument sounds similar to the argument of a person turning away from bad behaviors (drug abuse or violence for example) due to their new belief in a god. Many people of varying religions have reported dramatic changes in their lives from

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Originally posted by Griggsy

[SIZE=4]Why do you believe or not believe?
With Carneades, I say probablity counts, and with David Hume, William Kingdon Clifford and Ernest Nage , I advise proportional your beliefs to the evidence, not like the rush to judgment of Keith Ward and William James![
All arguments from reliigous experience merely reflect people's own minds at work, and to posit Him as making them would beg the question. So, to say one has the beneficient experience that makes

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Originally posted by Griggsy

Subjectivity underpins objective morality!
I take that paradox from John Beversluis's "C.S. Lewis and the Search for Rational Religion." To quote:" The Golden Rule [ I add and the Silver One, g.] is not a substantive moral rule from which we can deduce specific duties: it is a formal rule that requires impartiality.Its substantive moral is provided by are preferences; not as Lewis would have us believe, in the sense of whatever we happen

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Originally posted by Griggsy

Shunyadragon, thanks. Now, then you use reason and facts, not necessarily what some holy book admonishes to do morally, eh?
This covenant morality for humanity ,as I call it , most Brtions follow rather than any derived from the Tanakh and the Testament.. It is consequentialist, deontological and uses the virtues.
The Ten Commandments, if followed , would set up a totalitarian state, in that the first four apply only to honoring Yahweh, nothing of importance for humanity.

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