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			<title>Moral Relativism with Teallaura (Reply 2)</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[My first reply (http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/entry.php?181-On-cultures-with-rules-against-murder) 
 
Teal's first reply. (http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/entry.php?183-Blog-Wars-or-quot-Why-don-t-Y-all-Get-a-Thread) 
 
Right, then. 
 
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Right, then.<br />
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				<div class="message">That culture can influence moral behavior/ideology is not in dispute. That culture defines morality is. This shows influence, granted, but does not establish that morality is necessarily defined by culture. Anyone can claim the sun is blue. A culture could inexplicably conclude that the sun must be blue despite not appearing blue. The sun is not influenced by what we think about it, even if all our kids start drawing pictures of blue suns.</div>
			
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</div>You obviously didn't read what I wrote :tongue: I specifically note that in the text of my last post I was attempting to demonstrate that:<br />
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</div>...is false.<br />
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As such, this is relevant.<br />
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				<div class="message">I’ll grant this - but now you need to establish those factors and show that the probability is indeed so low that the statistical improbability is overcome. </div>
			
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</div>That's kind of the point of the entire post. Read the post all the way through, then come back and reply :glare: :hehe:<br />
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</div>Exactly :tongue:<br />
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				<div class="message">This is an individual factor, not a cultural one. I grant sane humans don’t want to be killed - but that would also be true of not wanting to be killed by cars - so why don’t we see streets lined with barriers to keep cars from accidentally running over people? If this is so overwhelming a factor we should see it just as strong in other areas. We do see self-preservation but we don’t see every culture/society regarding personal safety as overriding. To get where you are going, we should see exactly that.</div>
			
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</div>A few things here:<br />
People have different perception of risks. <a href="http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2006/11/perceived_risk_2.html" target="_blank">Take a look at this.</a><br />
Other humans are both perceived to be (see above) and are actually a larger threat. They're intelligent, afterall.<br />
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				It’s a non-issue for our purposes - you need something that makes the probability of a culture accepting murder overwhelmingly low. By your own admission this doesn’t get us there and I’d argue while it might decrease probability somewhat its counterpart, selfishness, cancels that out.
			
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</div>It's a contributing factor, as is everything I present. <br />
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As I previously mentioned, the selfishness motivation would also favour a society in which murder is not allowed - for reasons of not being murdered and not wanting to worry about murdered.<br />
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It's important not to understate the extent to which empathy and altruism plays a part in most people's decision making process.<br />
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In the vast majority of cases we require justification if we're going to kill - as... we've basically both said. The reasons that people will accept vastly differ between different cultures and even between people in cultures - which you would expect without an objective moral standard. You're very much focused on the idea that all cultures are against killing for killing's sake rather than the huge quantity of other ways that they do differ. Off the top of my head, here's some reasons in different cultures that people would accept as justification for killing:<br />
<ul><li style="">[The victim was] an enemy.</li><li style="">...or they were just not in the "in-group"</li><li style="">For family honour.</li><li style="">Committed a crime [of variable seriousness] . (Referring to lynch mobs/vigilante justice rather than state-sanctioned)</li><li style="">Adulterer.</li><li style="">"Your honour, he had it coming." (The "Texas defense")</li><li style="">Deserter in an army.</li><li style="">weaker than you.</li></ul><br />
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It's also probably important to note that someone with no justification to kill someone also has no <b>reason</b> to kill someone. I talk about this in more detail later.<br />
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				And people kill loved ones all the time - in fact the likelihood in any murder is that the victim knew the killer and usually had a close or strong relationship with them. We humans can be hurt most deeply by our loved ones and are ironically more likely to kill a loved one than a stranger. This does not reduce the probability of murder being morally acceptable - it does the exact opposite. 
			
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</div>True, but we also have a lot more contact with people close to us than not. The chance of being murdered by someone you know is small (because the chance of being murdered by someone, in general, is small) - and a lower murder rate is, as I'm sure you'd agree, optimal for smooth operation. Would you be more or less willing to trust and socialise with people if murder was acceptable in your society?<br />
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				Um, Chris, I already disproved this. Societies presently exist and are sadly stable that tolerate murder. They do not do so sans caveat, that’s true, because sane human beings require justification for their acts - but my argument is that is because morality is objective. In a morally relative world justification should not be a psychological need - yet we see it in even the most murderous of cultures/societies. <br />
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I’m pretty sure Chris accepts the same premise but for the viewing audience ‘justification’ or ‘caveat’ in this instance is not necessarily the same thing as a legitimate justification. Most would accept self-defense as legit justification (and no, self defense isn’t murder, it’s just the easiest example) but would not accept stealing the victim’s shoes as just cause.
			
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</div>Firstly - as I previously mentioned - someone without justification  for their actions also has no reason to perform that action.<br />
Secondly - Acting rationally is beneficial. To expend effort killing a person with no justification or benefit is irrational and detrimental to the person.<br />
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The sort of person who will take action without reason is incredibly rare and also probably pretty short lived. To have an entire <i>society</i> of those people... or at least, enough of them so it's the prevailing opinion? Highly improbable, particularly as people don't pop up in a vacuum - they're highly exposed to culture and the ideas and beliefs of people around them as they grow up.<br />
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				This is your best argument and it’s pretty good. But it rests on the false assumption that all cultures will act in their own best self -interest (that they will be rational). Nazi Germany self-destructed because it turned on a segment of its own population. The examples of repressive and oppressive cultures are numerous. Such cultures can be stable and survive long periods. They also use the repressed/persecuted elements as labor - often involved in agriculture. Can you think of a better way to poison people than to be harvesting and processing - even cooking - their food? Trust isn’t what keeps the oppressors safe - terror is. So to can less discriminately murderous cultures develop along ‘mutual self-interests’ to either police laborers or insulate themselves. Yes, it means subcultures develop but virtually all cultures have subcultures so that isn’t a problem for my argument.<br />
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I grant that in a rational society this factor does indeed reduce the probability of murder being regarded as acceptable - but since my contention all along has been that most cultures would not regard murder as acceptable even in a morally relative world this does not defeat my argument. I do not agree that this would reduce the probability sufficiently low such that we would see no outliers - I explained why above.
			
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</div>A society that is run too suboptimally is unlikely to last very long. Your example - Nazi Germany - lasted 12 years. I would agree that both individuals and societies don't always act rationally.<br />
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One thing to note is that you're using the term "murder" here. I think we're being a little imprecise in our wording. Shall we define it - for our purposes - as being the same as "(malicious killing of a human being) sans caveat (justification)"?<br />
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				This is demonstrably false - South America. Surprisingly stable, yet volatile and with astronomically high murder/violence rates.
			
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				Even with the points I’ve granted would reduce the probability combined, there is not enough here to reduce probability that low given that we see counter examples in most of those cases. Granted they aren’t perfect (they all function with caveat) but they don’t need to be. You now need to show why caveat would affect the probabilities sufficiently - otherwise, the counter examples disprove the points and thereby the thesis.
			
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</div>I was apparently half-asleep when I first wrote this, because I missed the obvious problem with the idea of a society in which malicious killing of a human being sans caveat is morally acceptable - the fact that (the vast majority of) people don't do things for no reason. It's the height of irrationality to do so.<br />
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Again, we're talking about whether or not we'd expect a society in which malicious killing of a human being sans caveat is morally acceptable. I present the following reasons:<br />
<ul><li style="">People who act without reason are rare. It's highly irrational to do so, expending effort to kill someone without reason is not beneficial. Someone who acts like that is unlikely to be particularly successful.</li><li style="">People don't appear out of thin air and are heavily influenced by their society, parents and other people. The sort of person to kill malicious without justification does exist - but it's rare, as I believe you've previously agreed to.</li><li style="">For it to become the prevailing opinion in a society, all (or at least a majority) people in that society have to hold it - given the rarity of people who would hold that maliciously killing people without reason is acceptable is rare, a society in which this was acceptable would be even more so.</li></ul><br />
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As such - even without an objective moral basis - we would expect the vast majority of people and the all of the societies that have ever existed to not find killing malicious without reason acceptable.</blockquote>

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			<description><![CDATA[So, I'm having a discussion with Teallaura as we speak about objective versus relative morality. Teallaura is asserting that - if morality is culturally relative - we would expect a society to exist or to have existed in which murder (defined as, for the purpose of this, "malicious killing without caveat") is acceptable. 
 
I, unsurprisingly, do not agree. 
 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote class="blogcontent restore">So, I'm having a discussion with Teallaura as we speak about objective versus relative morality. Teallaura is asserting that - if morality is culturally relative - we would expect a society to exist or to have existed in which murder (defined as, for the purpose of this, "malicious killing without caveat") is acceptable.<br />
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I, unsurprisingly, do not agree.<br />
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Unnecessary logicy bits!<br />
M = A society in which murder is acceptable exists.<br />
R = Moral relativism.<br />
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(¬M /\ (R -->M) ) --> ¬R<br />
(That is:<br />
1. A society in which murder is acceptable does not exist.<br />
2. Moral relativism implies the existence of a society in which murder is acceptable.<br />
3. Therefore, moral relativism is false.)<br />
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I'm taking objection to 2. (R-->M).<br />
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This is my defense. I don't believe this is an exhaustive list of reasons, though.<br />
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				<div class="message">The probability of a particular society having a certain moral belief is dependant on the circumstances of that society. For instance, you may find that a society with a lower ratio of males to females may be more likely to find polygamy socially acceptable.<br />
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So, the probability of a society finding malicious killing without caveat be acceptable is going to be dependant on a lot of factors, too. If this probability is rendered incredibly low from factors that every society has in common then we would expect the total lack of societies which find malicious killing without caveat acceptable.<br />
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So, let's look at the factors which are common to every society. Every society is made up of humans (we're talking about humans, here, a debate on animal morality or whatever is not something I want to get into really :tongue:) - which is an important factor.<br />
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Humans have a lot of things in common. Not wanting to be killed is one of them. For each individual person in a society, not having to face the threat of being murdered every day is an advantage – firstly, it stops them being perpetually fearful for their lives; secondly, it allows them to use the effort they'd otherwise be put into not being killed to do something productive to improve their quality of life and... there are quite a lot of other benefits of not being killed, I would imagine.<br />
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Another important factor common to basically all humans (short of the truly sociopathic) is that we do possess (and frequently carry out) alturistic actions. We also have the ability to emphasise with people and to understand how our actions will make other people feel. Being murdered, I would imagine, is not a particularly nice feeling. This isn't exactly perfect, though, as we can (obviously) kill, injure or hate – but still something to keep in mind.<br />
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Humans are also social animals. Firstly in the case that we rely on other humans for our survival (see below) and also that we enjoy (and pretty much require) socialising. Both with friends and romantic/sexual partners.<br />
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Another feature that societies share is that, in general, they want to stick around. Stability is a inherent goal of any society – this ties in a lot with the “not wanting to be murdered” thing. A stable society benefits everyone in it substantially, as I'm sure you'll agree. A society in which murder was acceptable is not one that's going to stick around for very long.<br />
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One other important similarity of the vast majority of societies is the division of labour. The fact that people rely on other members of the society to do jobs (for instance, I rely on the people who purify my water or make my food) is important. You have to trust other people – not only to perform their job well but also to not just run away with your money. The benefits of allowing division of labour to occur are obvious – imagine a society, though, in which murder was considered acceptable – it'd be hard to ensure that that baker you just gave a load of flour to would be around tomorrow for you to pick up your bread and then everyone loses.<br />
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While it is true that there have been thousands of societies throughout history, the probability of one emerging (and surviving for more than five minutes) in which murder is acceptable is incredibly low. It is entirely possible – and I would argue probable - that we could see all of the societies that have ever existed finding murder to be morally unacceptable, even when the morality is dependant on the society.<br />
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I'd also like to note that societies aren't really ever in a vacuum. The people in them come from other societies (possibly previous ones) and were brought up and taught in various ways. They have neighbours which they might trade with...</div>
			
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			<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2012 20:30:18 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I managed to pop back to my university library today. Books. Nomnomnom: 
News on the Chinese Room 
Cryptography: Theory and Practice 
The economics of equal opportunity 
Artificial Intelligence (Pearson) 
Software Metrics 
Heuristics and Biases 
Cognitive Biases 
 
A nice selection of Comp. Sci, philosophy and Soc. Sci. I need to get reading :tongue:</description>
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News on the Chinese Room<br />
Cryptography: Theory and Practice<br />
The economics of equal opportunity<br />
Artificial Intelligence (Pearson)<br />
Software Metrics<br />
Heuristics and Biases<br />
Cognitive Biases<br />
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A nice selection of Comp. Sci, philosophy and Soc. Sci. I need to get reading :tongue:</blockquote>

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				30. Giant robots are going to take over the world!!! (probably) [2]<br />
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Answer: False. Giant robots take a lot of resources, it's pretty unlikely anyone would<br />
take over the world that way. Also, there's no evidence to date that robots are that<br />
talented, and currently they have no legal status as moral agents so they can not own<br />
anything. But I'll give points to any good argument about why this might be a danger<br />
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			<title>I have a shiny new Kindle!</title>
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				I recently (after a few weeks of um-ing and arr-ing about it) picked up a Kindle. I don’t have an appropriate picture-taking device, so have an amazon link instead. I ended up deciding on the £109 Kindle Touch despite some original doubts about the ease of use of the interface and that the touch is the better device – despite being £20 more expensive.<br />
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…On the down side, I had to buy it in PC World/Currys - I still don’t feel clean – although it did allow me to pick up a “cheap” case (only £10 rather than £20).<br />
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I only have a few books so far (I picked up a Kindle version of Flatland, a book on Game Theory and A Song of Ice and Fire – Game of Thrones)  but my experience so far is positive. Reading using the Kindle is considerably more comfortable and a lot easier – pressing a part of the screen rather than turning a page (although, sometimes you can miss the bit you need to press or press for too long and end up going forward five pages, which is irritating.) The number of free books and books with a very low price is also very nice – allows you to try out things you’re not quite sure about.<br />
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The books are – on the whole – cheaper on the Kindle than in dead-tree form. There are some exceptions to the rule – publishers apparently didn’t get the memo about the lower distribution and production costs for e-books and somehow think it’s reasonable to charge more. I would advise that you kept an eye out for that sort of thing. The other problem I’m running in to is splitting up a series across formats – I can’t have part of a series in book form and the rest on the Kindle! It’s an abomination! I need to decide how to resolve this for a few books I want to buy.<br />
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I also have another gripe – the one-click-checkout provided by amazon is useful but you can’t add kindle books to your cart and purchase them the regular way – this means lots of little transactions hitting your card instead of one big one. I found a work-around in that you can buy yourself a gift certificate, but this is something that really should be supported by default because there’s really no reason for it not to be.<br />
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All-in-all, I’m happy about my pre-exam purchase and am trying to convince myself that it’ll somehow help me revise.<br />
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It won’t.<br />
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Now to spend all of my money on books.
			
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			<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 01:09:52 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Why apple products are dumb: 
 
MacBook pro 17 Inch: (http://store.apple.com/uk/configure/MD311B/A?#hardware) 
 
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2.4GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7 (*Upgradable for 2.5GHz i7 for £200*) 
4GB 1333MHz DDR3 SDRAM &#8212; 2x2GB (*Upgradable to 8GB for £160*)  
750GB Serial ATA Drive @ 5400 rpm (*Speed of HDD upgradable for £40, you can change this to a SSD for £80 (128GB), £400 (256GB), £880 (512GB)*)  
SuperDrive 8x (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW) 
MacBook Pro 17-inch Hi-Res Glossy Widescreen Display]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote class="blogcontent restore">Why apple products are dumb:<br />
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<a href="http://store.apple.com/uk/configure/MD311B/A?#hardware" target="_blank">MacBook pro 17 Inch:</a><br />
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				2.4GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7 (<b>Upgradable for 2.5GHz i7 for £200</b>)<br />
4GB 1333MHz DDR3 SDRAM &#8212; 2x2GB (<b>Upgradable to 8GB for £160</b>) <br />
750GB Serial ATA Drive @ 5400 rpm (<b>Speed of HDD upgradable for £40, you can change this to a SSD for £80 (128GB), £400 (256GB), £880 (512GB)</b>) <br />
SuperDrive 8x (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)<br />
MacBook Pro 17-inch Hi-Res Glossy Widescreen Display
			
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</div><a href="http://www.dabs.com/products/samsung-series-7-700g7a-core-i7-2670qm-8gb-ram-2tb-hdd-blu-ray-17-3--windows-7-home-premium-laptop-7WJ7.html?src=3" target="_blank">Here's a samsung laptop.</a><br />
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				2.2 GHz (Turbo-able to 3.1 GHz) Quad-core Intel core i7<br />
8GB DDR3<br />
2x1TB HDD (Serial ATA)<br />
Blu-Ray drive<br />
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</div>One of these machines is £2,099.00 (~$3,400) the other is £1,364.41 (~$2200).<br />
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The machine with the considerably better specs is just over half the price. What the heck?<br />
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PS:<br />
You can upgrade the macbook to have 8GB of RAM (from 4GB) for £160 ($260)<br />
<a href="http://www.dabs.com/products/corsair-memory-4gb--2-x-2gb--xms3-ddr3-1600mhz-dimm-cl9-7GJF.html?q=2x2GB%20RAM&amp;src=16" target="_blank">This is 4GB of DDR3 RAM</a> - it costs £25 ($40)</blockquote>

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			<title>My new blog</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 03:37:17 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[There is no way this will last, but I'll give it a shot: 
http://blog.chrs181818.com/]]></description>
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<a href="http://blog.chrs181818.com/" target="_blank">http://blog.chrs181818.com/</a></blockquote>

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			<title><![CDATA[Tweb Tech: Amazon Associate & Finances]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 23:32:59 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Hey there. 
 
We've recently obtained a Amazon Associate account which allows us to make money (to go towards the maintenance of TWeb) when our users buy things on amazon. 
 
If you buy anything on amazon, please follow these (http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showthread.php?150350-Advertising-Amazon-Associate&p=3381723#post3381723) instructions - allowing you to help TWeb at no cost. 
 
Additionally: despite this new measure, we're still struggling financially. About half of the costs per...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote class="blogcontent restore">Hey there.<br />
<br />
We've recently obtained a Amazon Associate account which allows us to make money (to go towards the maintenance of TWeb) when our users buy things on amazon.<br />
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If you buy anything on amazon, please follow <a href="http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showthread.php?150350-Advertising-Amazon-Associate&amp;p=3381723#post3381723" target="_blank">these</a> instructions - allowing you to help TWeb at no cost.<br />
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Additionally: despite this new measure, we're still struggling financially. About half of the costs per month aren't covered. Please considering <a href="http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/faq.php?faq=support_financial" target="_blank">making a donation or setting up a subscription.</a><br />
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Any questions on the new system, finances or anything - feel free to ask in the comments or by PM.<br />
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-Chrs</blockquote>

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			<title>Social Matters: Sex and Gender</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2012 21:18:27 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I've gotten into a few discussions about this recently so I think I should probably codify my opinion on the issue. 
 
First, definitions: 
*Sex* - Do you have a Y chromosome? If yes, your biological sex is male. Otherwise, your biological sex is female. 
*Gender* - Roughly "femininity" and "masculinity" - refers to traits culturally associated with sexes. 
*Trait* - Something about a person. A personality aspect, skill, physical feature, whatever. 
 
So, what do I believe? 
Your biological sex...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote class="blogcontent restore">I've gotten into a few discussions about this recently so I think I should probably codify my opinion on the issue.<br />
<br />
First, definitions:<br />
<b>Sex</b> - Do you have a Y chromosome? If yes, your biological sex is male. Otherwise, your biological sex is female.<br />
<b>Gender</b> - Roughly "femininity" and "masculinity" - refers to traits culturally associated with sexes.<br />
<b>Trait</b> - Something about a person. A personality aspect, skill, physical feature, whatever.<br />
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So, what do I believe?<br />
Your biological sex pre-disposes you to certain traits. So do a lot of other things: other genes, your upbringing, environment, what you spend your time doing, surgery, etc. An individual is a sum of a lot of things.<br />
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Traits are (to paraphrase an analogy from a blogger I can't credit here because of Tweb decorum :tongue:) like a buffet. You have a load of plates with different traits on and you can pick what you want. "Biologically male" and "Likes powertools" is a possible combination but as is having only one or neither. "Sews dresses" and "Likes football" are also not contradictory - you can have both, one or neither.<br />
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The ideas of masculinity and femininity are basically a set menu. You turn up and someone directs to your side of the buffet table with "Has short hair", "Likes sports" and "Likes powertools" - you could sneak over to the other table and nab a spoonful of "bakes cakes" or "knits" but people will look at you funny. The issue is <i>enforcement</i>.<br />
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Gender enforcement is, roughly speaking: the fact that you're expected - as a biological male or female - to pick traits that "belong" to your sex. A male who likes sewing dresses or having long hair (:tongue:) face stigma and being referred to as a "girly-man." It's fine to be biologically male and like sports, it should also be okay to be biologically male and knit.<br />
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Anyway, that's a surface view of my opinion on the issue. Come back later for more "Social Matters!"</blockquote>

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			<title>Oh dear.</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 22:56:37 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>This entire blog has turned into everyone just talking about NT times. 
 
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. 
 
Seriously, though: any other features people who are blogging would like? Any issues?</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote class="blogcontent restore">This entire blog has turned into everyone just talking about NT times.<br />
<br />
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.<br />
<br />
Seriously, though: any other features people who are blogging would like? Any issues?</blockquote>

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			<title>Stars!</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2012 05:14:26 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Reputation Stars now back. Enjoy :tongue:</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote class="blogcontent restore">Reputation Stars now back. Enjoy :tongue:</blockquote>

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			<title>Welcome to TheologyWeb blogs</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 11:27:32 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I am happy to announce the re-release of TheologyWeb blogs! Feel free to blog as much as you like on (basically) any topic. Standard Campus Decorum applies to all blog posts, so don't abuse the privilege.  
 
Hope you enjoy the blogs, 
-Chrs 
 
P.S. Here's a post on the blogs! (http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showthread.php?149706-Blogs)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote class="blogcontent restore">I am happy to announce the re-release of TheologyWeb blogs! Feel free to blog as much as you like on (basically) any topic. Standard Campus Decorum applies to all blog posts, so don't abuse the privilege. <br />
<br />
Hope you enjoy the blogs,<br />
-Chrs<br />
<br />
P.S. Here's a post on the <a href="http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showthread.php?149706-Blogs" target="_blank">blogs!</a></blockquote>

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