Griggsy

Originally posted by Griggsy

Yo lunch, that sums it up!Faith doth that to people! We shouldn't have to need that grace and so forth. It's not what He wants, but what is good for us animals! Indeed, morality would contemn Him for permitting pointless evils when the lesser evil or the heavenly good present themselves! Yes, faith does make people take absurd positions.
Per the argument from autonomy, our level ,makes for our being independent beings, not the clay of a callous potter! This new argument answers the supernaturalist the argument from for our rights that either the state grants us rights that it can revoke or H grants us inalienable rights. Ti's our level of consciousness the UN Declaration of Universal Rights notes that does indeed make for our rights in line with Morgan's Canon.
Also in line with the Canon is the Great Ape Project to grant more protections to our fellow great apes as Spain and New Zealand do.
Again, were He consistent there would ever have been Heaven on Earth! The Fall as you, Seer, note was entrapment, and I add, totally evil! This myth has no value for us rationalists but portrays what faith does to people so determined to believe! And what betrayal of reason does Michael Ruse,agnostic, in equating evolution and original sin and other nonsense with evolutionary developments when there was no Fall, no first couple superior to us and so forth!
Naturalist David Hume notes : " And whoever is moved to assent to it [ the miraculous, G.] is conscious of a continued miracle in his own person [ No necessarily as cognitive dissonance plays a key role.], which subverts all the principles of his understanding [ the presumptions, G,], and gives him a determination to believe what is most contrary to custom and experience [ the conservation of knowledge].
Why believe that there is some unknown for the pointless evils as that merely partakes of the argument from ignorance, the key supernaturalist one! That bane!
To asseverate that His ways are above ours merely blashphemes morailty, reason and -humanity and mocks morality. And is another argument from ignorance, that favorite fallacy of theists.
To allege our free will so that He wouldnt infinge on it mocks us as ti's immoral to have us love Him freely in that we have to obligaition in the first place to love Him whatsoever! Again, and again, ti's what is good for us rather than what He wants!