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	Read Me: Topics and Guidelines Ecclesiology 201 Trout February 7th 2007 Replies: x \| Views: 906
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	Daily Dose of Orthodoxy Rusty T Replies: 227 \| Views: 20,487 \| Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 ... Last Page	Posted: January 8th 2010 @ 01:38 AM by George Blaisdell
I thought I'd start a thread where I'd post writings from the Fathers or things such as hymns. Today's Entry: Akathist to the Sweetest Lord Jesus Christ (an akathist is a prayer of the Church that is prayed standing; they are designed to be chanted, but if done individually, this is not necessary) Kontakion 1 Plagal of Fourth Tone To You, the Champion Leader and Lord, the Vanquisher of Hades, I, Your creature and servant, offer a song of praise, for You have delivered me from eternal...
	Daily Dose of Catholicism furay Replies: 205 \| Views: 12,222 \| Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 ... Last Page	Posted: September 11th 2009 @ 01:21 PM by Rusty T
I've been meaning, for a long time, to make a parallel thread to tizzidale's "Daily Dose of Orthodoxy" (probably the best thread ever made on Tweb) except with a Catholic flair. So, without further ado, I'd like to start us off with a classic sermon by Fr Francis Hunolt on our Last End. The Remorse of the Dying on Account of Time Lost through Idleness “But they neglected and went their ways, one to his farm, and another to his merchandise.” St. Matthew 22: 5. God has prepared for his Son a...
	Martin Luther: Topical Master Index For Papers And Blogs By James Swan dizzle Replies: 3 \| Views: 337	Posted: August 31st 2009 @ 06:10 PM by WittenbergsDoor
This is a great resource for researching Luther, just in general, or to verify/falsify claims that are often made about him during debate.
	Permission to post from Beggar's All dizzle Replies: 2 \| Views: 707	Posted: September 20th 2008 @ 12:49 PM by Silver Hand
I have permission to repost in full articles by James Swan on http://beggarsallreformation.blogspot.com/.

	What are some protestants so "ideologically" protestant? Jin-Roh Replies: 9 \| Views: 82	Posted: Today @ 08:54 AM by timspong
I am writing this as a protestant. But I have a serious question: why are there protestants who are ideologically protestant like conservatives who don't know when war is not a good idea? Here's what started this thread. I am listening to the "fighting for faith" radio show/podcast for 25 January of this year. About an hour into it, the host is reviewing another pastor's (Scott Hodge) sermon. Scott Hodge is endorsing "Lectio Divina" for evangelicals. He is cited an 11th century Monk,...
	Was Nicea I (AD 325) Sabellian? Maxentius Replies: 8 \| Views: 82	Posted: Today @ 12:15 AM by hedrick
I came across this in a combox and I would like anyone interested to comment. Nicea I follows: We believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of all things visible and invisible. And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, begotten of the Father , Light of Light, very God of very God, begotten, not made, being of one substance (ὁμοούσιον) with the Father; by whom all things were made ; who for us men, and for our salvation, came down and was incarnate and was made man; he suffered, and...
	Is an Emperor required to convene an Ecumenical Council? Maxentius Replies: 22 \| Views: 402 \| Pages: 1 2	Posted: February 6th 2010 @ 08:57 PM by Kabane52
I have heard a couple of times that there can be no more Ecumenical Councils because there is no Roman Emperor, as only a Roman Emperor can convene a council. How widely held is this view within EOdoxy and how much authority does it have? BTW, I don't want to discuss whether the proposition is true, I just want to understand if it is believed, and if it is, why it is believed.
	Poll: How Long before Roman Catholics stop misusing St. Cyprian? Kabane52 Replies: 3 \| Views: 62	Posted: February 6th 2010 @ 06:41 PM by One Bad Pig
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	The rock upon Jesus is building His church. 37818 Replies: 47 \| Views: 907 \| Pages: 1 2 3	Posted: February 4th 2010 @ 01:30 PM by One Bad Pig
Matthew 16:15-18, He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. There are a number of views. One view holds...
	The Spiritual Torture of Protestantism: Presumption and Sc spauline Replies: 27 \| Views: 393 \| Pages: 1 2	Posted: February 1st 2010 @ 02:29 PM by Abelard
The Spiritual Torture of Protestantism: Presumption and Scrupulosity From the article entitled, “ Mary, the New Eve, shall open the eyes of the Protestant Right” , we learned several things. Firstly, we saw that heretics tend to gather at the extremes, which are the right and the left, respectively. The right-oriented heretics are Pharisaical, and the left-oriented heretics are Saduccaical. The New Testament Pharisees emphasize doctrine over the heart (the intellect over the will), and...
	Who are the other successors Obsidian Replies: 18 \| Views: 381 \| Pages: 1 2	Posted: January 25th 2010 @ 11:06 AM by maudman
If the pope is Peter's successor, who are the successors of the other apostles? If the pope is the only successor left, it seems like he actually has more authority than Peter ever had, because Peter had to deal with the other apostles criticizing him when he made mistakes. When Peter came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he was clearly in the wrong. But is the pope the only one now? Paul doesn't seem to give any indication that he has appointed a successor: 27For I have not...
	EO, Catholicism, and Lutheranism Anastasia Replies: 34 \| Views: 614 \| Pages: 1 2 3	Posted: January 21st 2010 @ 06:59 PM by George Blaisdell
I've read that the Orthodox Church is closer to Lutheranism than it is to Catholicism. I remember reading something that gave me that impression, but I do not recall what I was reading about. Can others share any thoughts on this comparison?
	Sacred Mount Athos Video George Blaisdell Replies: 0 \| Views: 103	Posted: January 20th 2010 @ 06:57 PM by George Blaisdell
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1900399251775313286&hl=en# It even has a segment on Thessalonika... Arsenios
	Catholicism = Paganism? (split from "Too much of orthodox") Macgawd Replies: 104 \| Views: 2,183 \| Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7	Posted: January 20th 2010 @ 12:16 AM by maudman
I know I'm gonna regret asking this (not that I haven't heard all the absurd claims before), but how precisely is Orthodox Catholicism "paganism"? =M=
	EO and OO non-transubstantiation Eucharist Anastasia Replies: 10 \| Views: 308	Posted: January 17th 2010 @ 06:22 AM by mostlyharmless
So I understand that some oriental orthodox churches believe that the "bread and wine coexist with the Body and Blood of Christ", rather than believing like the Roman Catholics in Transubstantiation (the bread and wine BECOME the Body and Blood of Christ)." I found this in specific reference to the Syriac Orthodox Church. "The Syriac Orthodox Church rejects the doctrine of Transubstantiation, the dogma that the bread and wine used in the Eucharist is transformed into the literal body and...
	Loaves and Fishes: the Sacraments and Christian Disuni spauline Replies: 1 \| Views: 129	Posted: January 6th 2010 @ 05:20 PM by One Bad Pig
Loaves and Fishes: the Sacraments and Christian Disunity? On Tuesday's Gospel reading, the account of the miraculous feedings with loaves and fishes was given. It is commonly seen to be a prefigurement of the Eucharist. However, I see much more than just the Eucharist in the stories of the multiplications of loaves and fishes. I see the whole of the Sacraments. After all, ANY time God gives us sanctifying grace (of which ALL the Sacraments are a great source of, and not merely the Eucharist),...
	Status of OO and EO unification Maxentius Replies: 7 \| Views: 245	Posted: December 17th 2009 @ 09:36 AM by Maxentius
Just a question: Are the OO united with the EO? If not, what is the status of re-unification? If so, is this documented somewhere? Thanks!
	Converted to Catholicism Tonight Kabane52 Replies: 227 \| Views: 4,782 \| Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 ... Last Page	Posted: December 14th 2009 @ 04:08 AM by brother vinny
Not sure what board this should be on...so I put it on A301. I might write more later. I'll have details on youtube.
	Mount Athos on National Geographic, Dec. 09 George Blaisdell Replies: 15 \| Views: 518	Posted: December 11th 2009 @ 12:26 AM by George Blaisdell
Pretty good article... http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2009/12/athos/draper-text
	Orthodox Literature Resources KelDragon Replies: 2 \| Views: 152	Posted: November 30th 2009 @ 03:17 PM by George Blaisdell
Hey, everyone. As I go through my studies, i have become increasingly interested in traditions outside my own brand of (rather bland, I'll admit) Protestantism. Catholic resources aren't too difficult to come by. BUt I'm having trouble finding Eastern Orthodox stuff. I'm blind, so a lot of the more contemporary stuff isn't available in an accessible format. Can anybody recommend some older literature (theology, prayers, hymns) and sites where I might be able to get it? I don't know if I'll...
	Patriarch Pavle One Bad Pig Replies: 4 \| Views: 213	Posted: November 30th 2009 @ 03:12 PM by George Blaisdell
Patriarch Pavle of the Serbian Orthodox Church reposed yesterday. May his memory be eternal! :opray:
	Catholicism vs. Orthodoxy DanK Replies: 48 \| Views: 1,064 \| Pages: 1 2 3 4	Posted: November 19th 2009 @ 08:09 AM by Anoetos
What resources would you recommend for researching the justifications given for Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox doctrines? I especially want to know about arguments for one tradition over the other, more than general apologetics.
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	The SIN, FALL & REDEMPTION OF PETER George Blaisdell Replies: 28 \| Views: 581 \| Pages: 1 2	Posted: November 11th 2009 @ 11:17 AM by WoundedEgo
I have been reading a homily by St. Gregory Palamas on Peter and Paul, and was struck at his profound understanding of the Life of Peter. I think his sin was greater than that of Judas, who only wanted some money, and I think the two lives show the difference in our response to sins that we commit. Peter's sin that went before his fall was PRIDE... And THAT is THE sin of Lucifer... So great and eggregious was this pride that Peter puffed himself up WAY above his brother Apostles, and...
	Who are the schismatics? One Bad Pig Replies: 144 \| Views: 2,426 \| Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10	Posted: November 4th 2009 @ 10:05 PM by Maxentius
I'd like to see your reasoning on this, Max.
	EO v. Catholic soteriology, comparison? Anastasia Replies: 36 \| Views: 739 \| Pages: 1 2 3	Posted: November 4th 2009 @ 08:26 PM by Maxentius
How are Catholic and Orthodox soteriology similar or different, other than generally two diff approaches to God/religion? What is an accurate comparison of their doctrines?
	Four Square Church mysterio Replies: 15 \| Views: 458	Posted: November 4th 2009 @ 06:35 PM by Jezz
Anyone attended a 4 Square meeting?I have been thinking about visiting one because their theology seems to line up pretty well with mine, but I don't know much about it.Any info?
	Interesting tidbit on relics Trout Replies: 20 \| Views: 458 \| Pages: 1 2	Posted: October 22nd 2009 @ 10:19 PM by Jezz
Relics became ingrained in Catholic Church orthodoxy at the Second Council of Nicaea in 787, when church authorities passed a law stating that every church should have a relic at its altar. The punishment for failing to obey: excommunication. But ever since the reforms of Vatican II in the early 1960s, relic veneration has virtually disappeared from the official landscape of Catholicism, particularly in the United States. A piece of flesh from Pope Pius X = $395.00 . . . seems like a bargain...
	An Orthodox Creed Kabane52 Replies: 8 \| Views: 271	Posted: October 22nd 2009 @ 01:44 PM by One Bad Pig
I've been trying to figure out a relatively short creed (not anything official) that I could give to people when they ask for an overview of my faith. Here is what I've hammered out so far: I believe in one God, who from all eternity and to all eternity exists in three distinct, coeternal, and coequal persons, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, one in essence, not personhood. I believe in the Father, the Glorious Source of the Trinity, the Maker of All Things I believe in the Son, eternally...
	Ecumenical Councils, the Church and Infallibility Jezz Replies: 33 \| Views: 753 \| Pages: 1 2 3	Posted: October 20th 2009 @ 11:15 PM by Jezz
Hi all, I don't normally do these personal bits as I don't see that they are particularly relevant to the topic. However, I feel I owe an explanation to those who have been around long enough to notice that I haven't been around as much as I used to. Fortunately for everyone this situation is likely to continue into the foreseeable future... Long story, but the jist of it is that I have been doing arguably more fruitful things with my time - living a happily married life, spending a lot of...
	Where can an EO take he Eucharist? Anastasia Replies: 22 \| Views: 490 \| Pages: 1 2	Posted: October 16th 2009 @ 03:27 AM by candlesandfish
An EO can participate at any EO church, right? And when he is unable to attend an EO church, he may participate at a Catholic church, right? So what about if he is visiting Catholic Mass at his university during the week? Also, what if he is visiting an Oriental Orthodox church? Thank you.
	Energetic Procession--A Split Maxentius Replies: 6 \| Views: 319	Posted: October 7th 2009 @ 07:50 PM by George Blaisdell
It appears there has been a split on the Energetic Procession blog--a fairly prominent Orthodox theology/philosophy blog. I check in there once in a while and occasionally post. One day when I did, the domain didn't work, then I tried the wordpress link and I saw the post below. I thought it was some kind of a joke, but apparently it is not. One of the blog founders, Photios Jones, has apparently joined some sort of Ultra Orthodox church. The domain name is now inactive, and now one has to...
	The Monastery: Mr. Vig and the Nun George Blaisdell Replies: 0 \| Views: 142	Posted: October 5th 2009 @ 04:17 PM by George Blaisdell
This is the best movie I have seen since OSTROV - It is a documentary of the building of a monastery from an old castle in Denmark ... And it requires VERY careful attention, for it is the story of the salvation of a soul, the very lost soul of the driven and elderly man who dies in the movie... It is about the taking on of this soul by the nun sent by the Moscow Patriarchate to see if the man's offer was legitimate, and then if it was possible, and she brought him through, and it is not...
	The Church Fathers and the Papacy Kabane52 Replies: 7 \| Views: 309	Posted: October 4th 2009 @ 12:12 AM by George Blaisdell
When I became Orthodox, I suspected that I would mostly be debating Protestants, and Roman Catholics would be situational allies in those situations. To my surprise, I have actually spent more time debating the papacy than I have debating Protestants. This is mostly due to a Roman Catholic monk who is a bit obsessed with making me Roman Catholic before I am chrismated. Anyways, I wanted to make this topic about the fathers. The papacy rests on this passage: (Matthew 16:18-19) And I tell you,...
	A little discussion on the Apocrypha... RCNicholas Replies: 41 \| Views: 1,058 \| Pages: 1 2 3	Posted: October 1st 2009 @ 09:15 PM by RCNicholas
This is continuation on the sidebar conversation that Bill and I were having in the Mormon thread on the Council of Nicea...thought I would move it here so as not to distract (any more than we already have, I'm sure) from the point of the thread. Yes, and Jerome was one guy, fully entitled to his opinions. Lots of early Church leaders said lots of things about lots of books, including some very negative things about books that both you and I regard as canonical. However, one guy doesn't...
	Matthew 16:18 Anastasia Replies: 21 \| Views: 518 \| Pages: 1 2	Posted: September 29th 2009 @ 03:53 AM by mostlyharmless
I understand that this verse is used a lot to justify the pope in Catholic theology. The only other interpretation I remember hearing of this came from a Catholic describing his faith versus protestants. What are the typical Protestant and Orthodox understandings of this verse? 17Jesus replied, "Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by man, but by my Father in heaven. 18And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates...
	So I made my own prayer rope, and kinda wanted to show it off. Ex Nihilo Replies: 16 \| Views: 386 \| Pages: 1 2	Posted: September 29th 2009 @ 01:33 AM by Anastasia
I remember when I was a teen, probably 16 or 17, I saw a nun where I worked with this enormous rosary. I loved it, and wanted one, but wasn't Catholic. I have been praying the Jesus prayer for a while now, in the 33 prayer style, and wanted a better counter for my prayers than the Basque Rosary I purchased from the Vatican years ago. So I made my own. The beads are copper and the cross is brass. While I realize now that a red would have offset it more effectively, this was a very cost...
	Who Split from the Lutherans? Maxentius Replies: 55 \| Views: 1,014 \| Pages: 1 2 3 4	Posted: September 28th 2009 @ 04:22 PM by Anoetos
One Bad Pig stated in the "I need serious help" thread as follows: "Whether you will it or no, the Reformation was a radical break, even for the confessional churches. And how can Protestantism, with its propensity for church splits, be considered more flexible?" http://tinyurl.com/msptdz This is often asserted, so I am not picking on OBP. What I would like is for him, or someone else, to show how Lutherans spawned and continue to spawn churches. It seems to me that most of the "splitting"...
	Does communion have to involve real wine? Sir-Think-A-Lot Replies: 151 \| Views: 3,807 \| Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10	Posted: September 26th 2009 @ 08:02 PM by One Bad Pig
This all happend a couple years ago, but a recent conversation brought this back to me. My grandfather is a recovered alcholic, and he actually left the church he used to go to, b/c they served real wine(instead of grape juice, or a non-alcholic alternitive) in , and he wasnt comfortable drinking even that little bit, and when he brought it up to the church leadership they pretty much ignored him. My question is basicly does communine have to involve real wine, or is non-alcholic grape...
	Definition of "Church" themuzicman Replies: 129 \| Views: 2,480 \| Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9	Posted: September 26th 2009 @ 09:45 AM by Mentieth
I think maybe one of the things that may help different traditions to understand each other is to define what one means when one says "Church" when referring to what Christ established on the earth. I'd like to include: 1) A general definition of the Church (Feel free to interpret this as the True Church tm if that helps to distinguish yours from others, if you feel that is necessary) 2) How you get in (if possible) 3) How you get out (if possible) 4) Is salvation possible to gain/retain...
	Starting a 'thinking' church themuzicman Replies: 33 \| Views: 641 \| Pages: 1 2 3	Posted: September 26th 2009 @ 09:28 AM by Mentieth
This idea has been rolling around in my head for a while, and I have a few thoughts, but I just can't seem to wrap my mind around what a church that is radically different from the current flow of feminized, feeler oriented churches that seem to prevalent in the US today. So, what would a "thinking" church look like? How would it be different? How would it express mandates to help the orphan and the widow? What would a vision/mission statement look like? Would it try to incorporate...
	EO v. OO Anastasia Replies: 4 \| Views: 213	Posted: September 24th 2009 @ 02:25 PM by One Bad Pig
Can you give me a rundown of any differences significant between them other than the Council of Chalcedon? If you did not just fall into the church your parents went to, then why are you one instead of the other?
	Prayer Before Sex ApologiaPhoenix Replies: 82 \| Views: 2,648 \| Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6	Posted: September 14th 2009 @ 10:58 PM by spauline
Roman Catholic couples are being encouraged to pray together before they have sex. A book published by a prominent Church group invites those setting out on married life to recite the specially-composed Prayer Before Making Love. It is aimed at 'purifying their intentions' so that the act is not about selfishness or hedonism. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1210519/Never-mind-pillow-talk-couples-told-Roman-Catholic-church-PRAY-sex.html#ixzz0Q4YI7jQm
	The Stupidity of gotquestions Kabane52 Replies: 16 \| Views: 441 \| Pages: 1 2	Posted: September 13th 2009 @ 09:12 PM by Virgil
:lmbo: http://www.gotquestions.org/origin-Catholic-church.html Does this remind anyone of a very tired skeptical argument? In case anyone is silly enough to fall for this bunk: 1. They cite no primary texts to say that the real presence of Mithra was in the sacrificial bull. 2. The idea of the real presence originates very early in the Christian tradition, we find it very clearly in St. Ignatius (110) 3. 4. Remembrance doesn't capture the full meaning of the Greek word. Jesus rather implies...
	Visiting Orthodox Church Tomorrow Ex Nihilo Replies: 37 \| Views: 1,058 \| Pages: 1 2 3	Posted: September 12th 2009 @ 11:56 PM by JB
So I am going to a morning service of the Divine Liturgy. Can someone give me a quick breakdown of this so I don't look like a fool when I show up. I already feel silly when I visit new places.
	Wesleyanism and Catholicism DanK Replies: 63 \| Views: 1,482 \| Pages: 1 2 3 4	Posted: September 9th 2009 @ 01:05 AM by DanK
So, this came up in the thread about Pope Clement and justification, and it intrigued me, so I'm starting a thread about it to see if anyone would be willing to discuss it more.
	I need serious help! truthseeker13 Replies: 38 \| Views: 870 \| Pages: 1 2 3	Posted: September 7th 2009 @ 05:21 PM by George Blaisdell
I am currently a (semi) dedicated Trinitarian Pentecostal Christian. I have come into conflict with a number of the teachings and the severe self-centeredness of the preaching and theology. I have been researching Catholicism and Orthodoxy for the last year. I don't have the freedom to move yet because I still live with my parents. But I really need to hear about the conversion processes of others to either Catholicism or Orthodoxy.
	Seeking materials about the history of the Mass and Divine Lithurgy Andius Replies: 24 \| Views: 799 \| Pages: 1 2	Posted: August 31st 2009 @ 09:29 PM by One Bad Pig
The time spent in here has me delighted that there be a good number well informed Catholics and Orthodox Christians here (Which are practically non-existent where I come from, hehe). In the time spent here, I see that these Eucharistic celebrations has at times been a hotly debated thing here. Which has led me to think, I actually don't know jack squat about the history of these services! I always mind the praxis of the ancient Church, always taking into consideration the time and context of...
	Reconciliation between the Catholic and Orthodox Churches Nightingale Replies: 28 \| Views: 695 \| Pages: 1 2	Posted: August 29th 2009 @ 11:45 PM by George Blaisdell
Can it happen? I don't this thread to be many anti-Catholic/Orthodox statements but I would like to ask those who belong to these Churches to tell me their thoughts on if a reconciliation is possible. It's only been 1000 years since the split, how hard could it be? A couple bits of hope were the mutual lifting of excommunication between Pope Paul VI and Patriarch Athenagoras in the 60's and in the last few years Pope Benedict XVI and Patriarch Bartholomew I concelebrated the Liturgy of the...
	Ted Kennedy and Angelina Jolie spauline Replies: 1 \| Views: 212	Posted: August 28th 2009 @ 03:45 PM by themuzicman
Ted Kennedy and Angelina Jolie In light of the great honoring of Senator Ted Kennedy, we must nevertheless remember that no man can make up for mortal sin by other goodness. Hence, did the Christ say, that in the Last Judgement, men shall stand next to him and say, "Lord, I have done all these wonderful works in your name", and He shall respond, "Out of my sight, you evil doers, I never knew you." If we could earn eternal life, or balance out serious evil with serious good, we would believe...
	CofE Triumphant in.......France?!?!?!?!? Maxentius Replies: 22 \| Views: 547 \| Pages: 1 2	Posted: August 27th 2009 @ 08:47 PM by Maxentius
This is bizarre: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article6735579.ece Money Quote: "Far from the falling congregations and controversies that have marked recent Anglican history in Britain, French chaplaincies say that they are attracting an increasing number of worshippers. Tomorrow, for instance, hundreds of people will attend services in the Dordogne and other regions that have become home to British expatriates. Almost all will be held in churches lent by the local Catholic...
	Seeming Disproof of Purgatory Obsidian Replies: 19 \| Views: 401 \| Pages: 1 2	Posted: August 27th 2009 @ 07:51 PM by Sparko
50I declare to you, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. 51Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed— 52in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. 53For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality. 54When the perishable has been...
	Video interview with an E. Orthodox priest furay Replies: 10 \| Views: 328	Posted: August 23rd 2009 @ 12:01 AM by furay
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75AhGD3ft-c&feature=channel (Part 1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l15XYEBMv-s&feature=channel (2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ydy_78oqFs&feature=channel (3) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr8lNOpcgpM&feature=channel (4) Aside from his comments about the Pope, pretty good stuff there. He'd make a good Catholic - seems like he has zeal for the Truth and he's not afraid to mince words.
	Vineyard Laborers Parable and AD religions spauline Replies: 2 \| Views: 212	Posted: August 13th 2009 @ 12:25 PM by Obsidian
The Parable of the Laborers in the Vineyard Matthew 20:1-16 I found an interesting parallel with my theory that there are five sources of Divine Truth and the parable of the laborers in the vineyard . As background to this interp, one might read my precursor ideas here: What did Christ intend to reveal about Church History? http://www.4marks.com/articles/details.html?article_id=2830