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Obama's a secret Muslim?
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Between this and the fact that he drinks (and brews his own) beer, he would have to be the worst Muslim ever."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by Jaecp View PostI kinda can't wait until next year when he can have some fun with it like the he did with Kanye"It's evolution; every time you invent something fool-proof, the world invents a better fool."
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Originally posted by seanD View PostFunding the Israeli military is a whole nuther animal.
It would happen anyway!! Because Jewish lobby.
Also, see the article:
Obama wanted Iran deal so this new aid is to make Israel less angry!! This is just normal politics and deal.Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.
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Originally posted by seanD View PostIf so, I wonder how that belief squares with this...Blog: Atheism and the City
If your whole worldview rests on a particular claim being true, you damn well better have evidence for it. You should have tons of evidence.
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For somebody who's supposedly not a Muslim, Obama has certainly said a lot of things in support of Islam, including casually claiming it as his religion of choice during an interview before being awkwardly "corrected" by the host.
Other interesting comments, from his book: "I will stand with [Muslims] should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."
He described the Muslim call to prayer as "the sweetest sound I know."
In his speech to the UN: "The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam."
In a 2015 speech, he falsely claimed that "Islam has been woven into the fabric of our country since its founding."
And there are literally dozens of other quotes. He has always spoken of Islam with reverence and respect while he has repeatedly denigrated Christianity.
Maybe he's one of those "moderate Muslims" we keep hearing about.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by The Thinker View PostOnly idiots actually think he's a Muslim, which is only about two-thirds of Trump supporters.
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Originally posted by seanD View PostI never got the two extreme sides to this. The side that believes he is a Muslim and the side that believes he isn't a Muslim, and the rabid insistence of both sides that they're right. I personally don't think Obama is Muslim (if anything, he's most likely an atheist feigning like he's religious), but I certainly don't see how it's an impossibility that he's Muslim and then denying it so as to avoid a political firestorm that would just be distracting to his political agendas. I'm just wondering how the former belief squares with the OP. If Obama is a Muslim, then this would suggest to me that Israel's influence on American politics really is as pervasive as some of the fringe anti-Israel conspiracy theorists claim it is, and Obama reluctantly gave in to this powerful influence? I mean, I don't know, I was just curious how the pro Obama is a Muslim crowd would explain this. Demi seemed to agree, which shows how powerful and influential the "Jewish lobby" is on American politics. The problem for many Obama is a Muslim people is that this is what the anti-Israel crowd (the crowd that is typically dubbed antisemitic) argues.Blog: Atheism and the City
If your whole worldview rests on a particular claim being true, you damn well better have evidence for it. You should have tons of evidence.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostFor somebody who's supposedly not a Muslim, Obama has certainly said a lot of things in support of Islam, including casually claiming it as his religion of choice during an interview before being awkwardly "corrected" by the host.
Other interesting comments, from his book: "I will stand with [Muslims] should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."
He described the Muslim call to prayer as "the sweetest sound I know."
In his speech to the UN: "The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam."
In a 2015 speech, he falsely claimed that "Islam has been woven into the fabric of our country since its founding."
And there are literally dozens of other quotes. He has always spoken of Islam with reverence and respect while he has repeatedly denigrated Christianity.
Maybe he's one of those "moderate Muslims" we keep hearing about.Blog: Atheism and the City
If your whole worldview rests on a particular claim being true, you damn well better have evidence for it. You should have tons of evidence.
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Originally posted by seanD View PostIf so, I wonder how that belief squares with this...Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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Originally posted by The Thinker View PostYou can believe all those things and still not be a Muslim. He's an accommodationist when it comes to Islam, trying to bridge a gap between the West and Islam in hopes that we can foster better relationships.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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