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  • Trump appointee favorably compares himself to Satan

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7425816.html

    The specific quote: "Darkness is good. Dick Cheney. Darth Vader. Satan. That’s power."

    I look forward to seeing Trump's defenders just say "he was joking" and excuse this, but I think it seems like Christians who have allied with Trump may be making a literal deal with the devil.
    "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

  • #2
    I love this ... " Mother Jones found no evidence that he had ever posted personally on the Vigilant Patriots page."

    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
      but I think it seems like Christians who have allied with Trump may be making a literal deal with the devil.


      Can't you Hillary supporters stop projecting??
      Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
        http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7425816.html

        The specific quote: "Darkness is good. Dick Cheney. Darth Vader. Satan. That’s power."

        I look forward to seeing Trump's defenders just say "he was joking" and excuse this, but I think it seems like Christians who have allied with Trump may be making a literal deal with the devil.
        I'm not a Trump defender, but taking that quote seriously seems fairly ridiculous. And "literal deal with the devil"? Seriously?
        Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom

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        • #5
          I'm not totally closed to futurism, so I do find it wise to be on guard.

          But under what circumstances is making positive statements about Satan, even "jokingly", okay?
          "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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          • #6
            Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
            I'm not totally closed to futurism, so I do find it wise to be on guard.

            But under what circumstances is making positive statements about Satan, even "jokingly", okay?
            It seems to me that he's merely playing to what people have already said about him, and likely mocking that. Including Dick Cheney should be a dead giveaway IMO.
            Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom

            Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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            I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist

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            • #7
              The full quote appears to be here:
              "Darkness is good. Dick Cheney. Darth Vader. Satan. That's power. It only helps us when they get it wrong. When they're blind to who we are and what we're doing."

              That gives a little more context... but still not that much. I feel like there must have been a greater context to that because it's actually kind of hard to figure out what he's saying (the article has to guess at who "they" are supposed to be). I think what he's saying is that it's good when the liberals/media see them as the bad guys (the "darkness") because it means the liberals/media aren't taking them seriously, which then let them surprise a lot of people by winning the House, Senate, and presidency.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Terraceth View Post
                The full quote appears to be here:
                "Darkness is good. Dick Cheney. Darth Vader. Satan. That's power. It only helps us when they get it wrong. When they're blind to who we are and what we're doing."

                That gives a little more context... but still not that much. I feel like there must have been a greater context to that because it's actually kind of hard to figure out what he's saying (the article has to guess at who "they" are supposed to be).
                Important context is missing in smear campaign
                Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                  I'm not a Trump defender, but taking that quote seriously seems fairly ridiculous. And "literal deal with the devil"? Seriously?
                  "Racist" not working well, "white nationalist" failing to stop Bannon (and also other appointments) so they're going to level 11! 'Devil-worshippper!!!'
                  Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                    I'm not totally closed to futurism, so I do find it wise to be on guard.
                    What you should be on guard against is naively accepting the slanders and slanderous perspectives published by slanderers -- the root of which word group is διάβολος.

                    Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                    But under what circumstances is making positive statements about Satan, even "jokingly", okay?
                    When mocking the slanders of slanderers.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                      ...it seems like Christians who have allied with Trump may be making a literal deal with the devil.
                      So now Trump is literally the devil?

                      Ah, remember the good old days when he was just a racist?
                      Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                      But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                      Than a fool in the eyes of God


                      From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                        So now Trump is literally the devil?

                        Ah, remember the good old days when he was just a racist?
                        Or committed treason?
                        Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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                        • #13
                          Excerpts from a behind-pay-wall article at the Wall Street Journal by Kimberly Strassel interviewing Steve Bannon, which excerpts are published at Breitbart.
                          “What mattered in the campaign was winning. We did.”

                          “How can you take anything seriously from a media apparatus—paid the amount of money you people are paid—that systematically missed something that was so obvious, that missed Brexit, that missed the Trump revolution? You’d have thought they’d have learned their lesson on November 8.”

                          “I was the one who said we are going to Flint, Michigan, we are going to black churches in Cleveland, because the thrust of this movement is that we are going to bring capitalism to the inner cities.”

                          Why does he [Bannon -JR] think that leftists are so fixated on him? “They were ready to coronate Hillary Clinton. That didn’t happen, and I’m one of the reasons why. So, by the way, I wear these attacks as an emblem of pride.”

                          Mr. Bannon believes Mr. Trump to be uniquely suited to make the case, as “one of the best political orators in American history, rated with William Jennings Bryan.”

                          He’s proud that the first job offer—to former Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn for national security adviser—went to a “registered Democrat,” and that the country is going to see “a lot of interesting choices.” Mr. Trump “knows how to mix and match, get the best out of people, and I think it says something about what a historic figure he could be.”

                          "I never went on TV one time during the campaign. Not once. You know why? Because politics is war. General Sherman would never have gone on TV to tell everyone his plans."

                          “Breitbart is the most pro-Israel site in the United States”
                          Last edited by John Reece; 11-19-2016, 07:43 AM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                            It seems to me that he's merely playing to what people have already said about him, and likely mocking that. Including Dick Cheney should be a dead giveaway IMO.
                            Unless you hate him, in which case you take him literally.
                            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Terraceth View Post
                              The full quote appears to be here:
                              "Darkness is good. Dick Cheney. Darth Vader. Satan. That's power. It only helps us when they get it wrong. When they're blind to who we are and what we're doing."

                              That gives a little more context... but still not that much. I feel like there must have been a greater context to that because it's actually kind of hard to figure out what he's saying (the article has to guess at who "they" are supposed to be). I think what he's saying is that it's good when the liberals/media see them as the bad guys (the "darkness") because it means the liberals/media aren't taking them seriously, which then let them surprise a lot of people by winning the House, Senate, and presidency.
                              he is saying the liberals are the darkness, and its good because they are blind to what the conservatives are doing. vader, and satan are all clueless to the plans of the "light"

                              the "power" is what the good guys have over the darkness because they are in the dark.

                              at least that seems to me what he could be saying
                              Last edited by Sparko; 11-19-2016, 09:03 AM.

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