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It goes on... and on...
This is in Christianity Today.
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It goes on... and on...
This is in Christianity Today.
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So basically, I'm guilty just because I happen to be Caucasian.
Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra -
Oh, the shame of it all. How can you even continue to get out of bed each morning?Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostSo basically, I'm guilty just because I happen to be Caucasian.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.Comment
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Conservatives and Trump voters are hurting right now because of the (I want to say "insane level of") hatred and bile that they're getting from the left. What does the left owe them?I DENOUNCE DONALD J. TRUMP AND ALL HIS IMMORAL ACTS.Comment
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More grief. It's all they got!Originally posted by Zymologist View PostThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.Comment
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Questions:
1: Do black evangelicals who voted for Obama owe me an apology for the additional 10 trillion in debt, the destabilization of the middle east, and the race baiting that has divided this country?
2: Do the black evangelicals who voted for Obama owe an apology to the families of fallen officers who've been shot by radicals openly supported by Obama?
3: Do the black evangelicals who supported Clinton owe an apology to the entire nation for supporting such a thoroughly corrupt candidate?
You should be sensitive to other people's pain because it is the right thing to do.
Calling out 'whites' or 'blacks' is ridiculous race baiting.
I wouldn't use Christianity Today to line a bird's cage - they'd have to clean up their act to be worth crap.Actually YOU put Trump in the White House. He wouldn't have gotten 1% of the vote if it wasn't for the widespread spiritual and cultural devastation caused by progressive policies. There's no "this country" left with your immigration policies, your "allies" are worthless and even more suicidal than you are and democracy is a sick joke that I hope nobody ever thinks about repeating when the current order collapses. - Darth_Executor striking a conciliatory note in Civics 101Comment
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About the authors:Originally posted by Sparko View Post
It goes on... and on...
This is in Christianity Today.
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologistComment
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4: How about the media apologize for hyping up Trump into someone he clearly isn't and scaring all of these innocent people?
5: I have yet to see one thing Trump has done that has harmed minorities - how can we apologize before there is harm?
The logical flaws that run throughout this piece of garbage should be enough to forever exclude the authors from further publication.
I await the author's apology for writing such a poorly considered piece.Actually YOU put Trump in the White House. He wouldn't have gotten 1% of the vote if it wasn't for the widespread spiritual and cultural devastation caused by progressive policies. There's no "this country" left with your immigration policies, your "allies" are worthless and even more suicidal than you are and democracy is a sick joke that I hope nobody ever thinks about repeating when the current order collapses. - Darth_Executor striking a conciliatory note in Civics 101Comment
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I dunno man...Trump is, like, really bad. Not good like Castro (may he rest in peace).Originally posted by Meh Gerbil View PostI DENOUNCE DONALD J. TRUMP AND ALL HIS IMMORAL ACTS.Comment
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Off the top of my head, if anyone cares for serious discussion rather than regurgitated doctrinaire conservativism:
1. Love for people created in the image of God.
If Y: go to 2.
If N: Either not a Christian, or not an Evangelical.
2. If love for people created in the image of God, then treatment as Christ would give treatment.
If Y: go to 3.
If N: Either not a Christian, or an Evangelical.
3. If treatment per Christ, then missions of evangelism and compassion to the affected people group.
If Y: go to 4
If N: Either not a Christian, or an Evangelical.
4. Application of short term and long term missions. Support of missionary churches with financial resources from established mission-sending churches.
If Y: go to 5
If N: Either not a Christian, or an Evangelical.
5. Education of community leaders who will continue to work in a culturally relevant way with the evangelized people. Continued commitment to discipleship from missionary churches.
If y: Congratulations, you have done to others as Christ did to you. You have fulfilled the most basic, fundamental tenets of authentic New Testament Christianity:
andOriginally posted by Matthew 7:12
If N: either not an Christian, or an Evangelical.
If you persist in thinking that you are a Christian, or an Evangelical, but you did not get to and agree with all 1-5, then there is another appropriate scripture reference for you:
Yours in Christ,Originally posted by Hebrews 5:11-15
guaca."Down in the lowlands, where the water is deep,
Hear my cry, hear my shout,
Save me, save me"Comment
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Sad.Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostAbout the authors:
Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?Comment
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Good response, except the article was not talking about our basic obligation to extend Christian charity to our fellow man; rather, it was a diatribe grounded in critical race theory which says, in essence, that white people are guilty of racism simply because they were born white.Originally posted by guacamole View PostLast edited by Mountain Man; 11-30-2016, 06:25 PM.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by PetraComment
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I didn't read it that way. If so, then it is my answer to him as well.Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
I'm not sure which part says that.rather, it was a diatribe grounded in critical race theory which says, in essence, that white people are guilty of racism simply because they born white.
fwiw,
guaca."Down in the lowlands, where the water is deep,
Hear my cry, hear my shout,
Save me, save me"Comment
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Um, that's the entire point of the article: we owe black people simply because we're white. That's critical race theory in a nutshell.Originally posted by guacamole View PostSome may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by PetraComment
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Then I don't think you read the article carefully enough. Consider his introduction:Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
His thesis, clearly established from the start of the piece, expresses that what he is concerned about is white Christians as members of the Chruch, as in "Where does the Church go from here?" A little bit further on, he writes, not of a racial impetus for his piece, but a Biblical one:
and laterOur biblical mandate [emphasis mine] is to care for the marginalized, to walk alongside those who have been victims of prejudice and abuse, to embrace those who are different than us in background and belief.[emphasis mine again]Because we are followers of Jesus.
Again, we do not owe simply because we are white; we "owe" because we are Christians, part of the church, theoretically or, to put it more sharply, "supposedly" in communion with the black Church.
He has some ideas in the article that might be useful and some which might be debateable, but his idea, that the church must lead, is noble, and that it must lead as a unified body of many different parts, is Biblical.
fwiw,
guaca.
PS: Look, he even gives a shout-out to the Cowpokes of Christendom!
"Down in the lowlands, where the water is deep,
Hear my cry, hear my shout,
Save me, save me"Comment
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