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We need to de-centralize education so that the state can no longer use it as a propaganda tool.
BTW, I like the Bertrand Russell quote in your signature.Actually YOU put Trump in the White House. He wouldn't have gotten 1% of the vote if it wasn't for the widespread spiritual and cultural devastation caused by progressive policies. There's no "this country" left with your immigration policies, your "allies" are worthless and even more suicidal than you are and democracy is a sick joke that I hope nobody ever thinks about repeating when the current order collapses. - Darth_Executor striking a conciliatory note in Civics 101 -
You think public education in America is good "as is"?
Education would be GREAT! What we have is a massive teachers' union looking out for themselves.Education generates wealth -
So, again, you think the American public education system is good "as is"?that's why a high-tec economy needs as many well educated people from all backgrounds as it can get - it is investment - education is not commerce.
#SayNoToBetsyDeVosThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.Comment
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She's clearly unqualified (and I say that as someone who usually votes Republican and has very few issues with Trump's other nominees).
I hope another Republican defects so Mike Pence can't tiebreaker her through."It seems to me that these women were the head (κεφάλαιον) of the church which was at Philippi." ~ John Chrysostom, Homilies on Philippians 13
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Public education today has ceased to serve the purposes for which it was intended, and which you describe. It needs gutting, that is to say decentralization. Fewer high level administrators and more classroom teachers.Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?Comment
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It seems okayish according to international comparison charts. It's not significantly worse than the OECD average, so I don't see a reason to panic about it.Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post"I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert EinsteinComment
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I don't see any panic. Just a desire to get the focus on children and learning instead of teachers and career educrats.Originally posted by Starlight View PostThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.Comment
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Looks like the powerful "Big Ed" union may win....Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
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The NEA, the largest labor union for public school teachers, is a fierce opponent of school choice.
Liberals are "pro choice", except when it comes to education.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.Comment
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Education is one issue where I agree with the Conservatives that it ought to be handled on a state level, which is to say that the role of Secretary of Education should be significantly limited. Having said that, actual experience working in the school system would be an ideal prerequisite. DeVos simply is not qualified."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard RavenhillComment
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http://blog.aarp.org/2013/06/19/u-s-...d-strong-lead/
What happened?
Well, I don't know for sure but the U.S. Department of Education was formed in 1979.
That's right, the decline in our education has been at the direction of a federal program ostensibly in place to ensure the opposite.
That is 36 years of failure - how long does a department have to fail before we axe it?Actually YOU put Trump in the White House. He wouldn't have gotten 1% of the vote if it wasn't for the widespread spiritual and cultural devastation caused by progressive policies. There's no "this country" left with your immigration policies, your "allies" are worthless and even more suicidal than you are and democracy is a sick joke that I hope nobody ever thinks about repeating when the current order collapses. - Darth_Executor striking a conciliatory note in Civics 101Comment
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The problem with "experience" in this field is that it pretty much means "the same old crowd" that has been in charge of education - meaning a flunky of the teachers' unions. I think we need a shakeup.Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.Comment
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thatOriginally posted by Meh Gerbil View PostThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.Comment
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I don't see why they couldn't find somebody separate from unions. There are plenty of teachers out there who want nothing to do with the NEA.Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post"I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard RavenhillComment
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the unions have a lock down on the public school systemsOriginally posted by KingsGambit View PostLast edited by RumTumTugger; 02-04-2017, 07:57 PM.Comment
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The U.S. had a head start in public education, its only natural that the rest of the world would catch up. It isn't a decline in our education as much as it is the rest of the world catching up. Thats not to say thats its perfect, or that it hasn't had its problems, and doesn't need fix'n, but you don't throw the baby out with the bath water. Conservatives/Republicans just have a problem with government in general, and they don't like the idea of paying taxes when it doesn't benefit them personally. Unions aren't the problem, not valuing education enough to get more great teachers into the system is a problem.Originally posted by Meh Gerbil View PostComment
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