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    One reason I don't care for Civics 101 discussions, or perhaps more accurately, one reason why I don't take them too seriously, is because there is no way to win.

    Let's take the Israeli/Palestinian situation as an example (1).

    The truth is both peoples have been wronged extensively and both harbor an understandable amount of animosity. Truth be told, given what both groups have endured I'm surprised there hasn't been more violence. How awful it must be to grow up in a perpetual warzone surrounded by people who view you as human garbage. If day after day I had people I respected telling me race X was garbage, the cause of all my suffering, and that I should be man enough to destroy those pigs I'd like to think I'd be the kind of guy who would do exactly that. What kind of person doesn't act under those circumstances?

    Any ways, what sucks about Civics 101 is that both sides can make compelling arguments. Each side can show you scars, bombed out homes, crying children, mass graves. Once the carnage has been going on long enough who can even keep track? Do we really decide based on the numbers killed? It is a trap, a tar pit, a never ending problem. Add to that the fact that we probably haven't been told the truth about any of it and it becomes hopeless. That sucks, my friends.

    This is true for any issue: Health Care, Policing, Taxation, etc.
    The fact is you cannot change a public policy without someone getting rich and someone else getting pinched.

    This is dumb.










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    1: I'm using the situation as an example. Please don't discuss the details of the conflict here.
    Actually YOU put Trump in the White House. He wouldn't have gotten 1% of the vote if it wasn't for the widespread spiritual and cultural devastation caused by progressive policies. There's no "this country" left with your immigration policies, your "allies" are worthless and even more suicidal than you are and democracy is a sick joke that I hope nobody ever thinks about repeating when the current order collapses. - Darth_Executor striking a conciliatory note in Civics 101

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    It do.
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    • #3
      I am changing my mind on healthcare after watching the republicans make just a big a mess of it as obama did. I am starting to lean toward a single-payer system. I still don't trust the government but the private sector has already screwed things up royally, and attempts by the government to create a hybrid system where they are regulated and you have to choose from a "marketplace" is going nowhere. I am coming to the conclusion we need to completely eliminate the whole current system and start from scratch.

      So yeah people's minds can be changed.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Sparko View Post
        I am changing my mind on healthcare after watching the republicans make just a big a mess of it as obama did. I am starting to lean toward a single-payer system. I still don't trust the government but the private sector has already screwed things up royally, and attempts by the government to create a hybrid system where they are regulated and you have to choose from a "marketplace" is going nowhere. I am coming to the conclusion we need to completely eliminate the whole current system and start from scratch.

        So yeah people's minds can be changed.
        I said this a week or so ago. I don't see how single-payer could be worse. And to be honest I was impressed with the New Zealand model that Star spoke of.
        Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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        • #5
          Originally posted by seer View Post
          I said this a week or so ago. I don't see how single-payer could be worse. And to be honest I was impressed with the New Zealand model that Star spoke of.
          You've no idea what you've done here.
          We already had to move out most of the furniture to make room for his ego.

          *gah*
          Actually YOU put Trump in the White House. He wouldn't have gotten 1% of the vote if it wasn't for the widespread spiritual and cultural devastation caused by progressive policies. There's no "this country" left with your immigration policies, your "allies" are worthless and even more suicidal than you are and democracy is a sick joke that I hope nobody ever thinks about repeating when the current order collapses. - Darth_Executor striking a conciliatory note in Civics 101

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Meh Gerbil View Post
            You've no idea what you've done here.
            We already had to move out most of the furniture to make room for his ego.

            *gah*
            Well that is an unfortunate side effect of agreeing with him...
            Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Sparko View Post
              I am changing my mind on healthcare after watching the republicans make just a big a mess of it as obama did. I am starting to lean toward a single-payer system.
              My Israeli tour guide had an expression - "if there is a terribly inefficient and expensive way to do something, the Jewish will find it".

              Israel ain't got NUTHIN over on the US Government!

              But, yeah - it looks like it's heading that direction.
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                My Israeli tour guide had an expression - "if there is a terribly inefficient and expensive way to do something, the Jewish will find it".

                Israel ain't got NUTHIN over on the US Government!

                But, yeah - it looks like it's heading that direction.
                And like Churchill said; American always does the right thing after it exhaust every other possibility.
                Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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