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    Time For A Blanket Pardon!

    Bush senior used a blanket pardon for six individuals caught up in the Iran affair: http://www.nytimes.com/books/97/06/2...an-pardon.html

    I think it is time to give a blanket pardon to Flynn and any or all Trump staffers who may be tainted by this Russian investigation. To quote Bill Clinton - we need to get on with the peoples business.
    Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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    Pardons, AFAIR, are pretty much only done by outgoing presidents. They're also not typically given for scandals in which the president himself is allegedly implicated. Lastly, they're typically given for actual convictions. Trump issuing pardons now would be bad optics in so many ways. I don't think you've thought this through very well.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
      I don't think you've thought this through very well.
      Is that unusual for me?
      Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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      • #4
        Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
        Pardons, AFAIR, are pretty much only done by outgoing presidents. They're also not typically given for scandals in which the president himself is allegedly implicated. Lastly, they're typically given for actual convictions. Trump issuing pardons now would be bad optics in so many ways. I don't think you've thought this through very well.
        I agree completely. It would just worsen the situation in almost every possible way.
        "Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by seer View Post
          Bush senior used a blanket pardon for six individuals caught up in the Iran affair: http://www.nytimes.com/books/97/06/2...an-pardon.html

          I think it is time to give a blanket pardon to Flynn and any or all Trump staffers who may be tainted by this Russian investigation. To quote Bill Clinton - we need to get on with the peoples business.
          They would have to fess up first.
          “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
          “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
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          • #6
            Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
            They would have to fess up first.
            Really? Where did you read that?
            Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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            • #7
              Originally posted by seer View Post
              Really? Where did you read that?
              If you have not committed a crime, you cannot be pardoned for it.
              “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
              “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
              “not all there” - you know who you are

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              • #8
                Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
                If you have not committed a crime, you cannot be pardoned for it.
                The blanket pardon covers the possibility of a committed crime, as well as the actual commitment of it.
                That's what
                - She

                Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                  The blanket pardon covers the possibility of a committed crime, as well as the actual commitment of it.
                  What innocent person would be foolish enough to accept such a thing if offered?
                  “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
                  “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
                  “not all there” - you know who you are

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
                    What innocent person would be foolish enough to accept such a thing if offered?
                    No one has to accept a pardon for one to be issued.
                    That's what
                    - She

                    Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                    - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                    I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                    - Stephen R. Donaldson

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                      No one has to accept a pardon for one to be issued.
                      The pardon has to apply to someone and be about something. The subject either has committed or may have committed a crime that is not yet discovered. An innocent person would not want to be pardoned and therefore people who accept a pardon practically admit their guilt although the crimes are not specified.
                      “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
                      “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
                      “not all there” - you know who you are

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
                        The pardon has to apply to someone and be about something.
                        No it doesn't. It can be as vague as it wants.

                        The subject either has committed or may have committed a crime that is not yet discovered.
                        Or simply be under suspicion.

                        An innocent person would not want to be pardoned and therefore people who accept a pardon practically admit their guilt although the crimes are not specified.
                        You are conflating a specific pardon with a blanket pardon. Try again.
                        That's what
                        - She

                        Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                        - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                        I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                        - Stephen R. Donaldson

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