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  • Goodbye, FM Radio

    That is, of course, if you live in Norway.

    Norway becomes first country to switch off FM radio

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    Norway on Wednesday completed its transition to digital radio, becoming the first country in the world to shut down national broadcasts of its FM radio network despite some grumblings.

    As scheduled, the country's most northern regions and the Svalbard archipelago in the Arctic switched to Digital Audio Broadcasting (DAB) in the late morning, said Digitalradio Norge (DRN) which groups Norway's public and commercial radio.

    The transition, which began on January 11th, allows for better sound quality, a greater number of channels and more functions, all at a cost eight times lower than FM radio, according to authorities.

    The move has however been met with some criticism linked to technical incidents and claims that there is not sufficient DAB coverage across the country.

    In addition, radio users have complained about the cost of having to buy new receivers or adapters, usually priced around 100 to 200 euros.

    Currently, fewer than half of motorists (49 percent) are able to listen to DAB in their cars, according to DRN figures.

    According to a study cited by local media, the share of Norwegians who listen to the radio on a daily basis has dropped by 10 percent in one year, and public broadcaster NRK has lost 21 percent of its audience.

    "It's a big change and we have to give listeners time to adapt to digital radio," the head of DRN, Ole Jørgen Torvmark, said in a statement.

    "After each shutdown (in a region), we noticed that the audience first dropped but then rose again," he added.

    The transition concerns only national radio channels. Most local stations continue to broadcast in FM.
    But I note that last sentence... only national radio channels.
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

  • #2
    I think this shows the biggest flaw in SETI. They want to search for advanced civilizations by listening for broadcasts, but it is looking like radio and TV are not broadcast through the air in advanced civilizations. Pretty soon everything will be via the internet which is mostly hard wired. Wi-fi doesn't have the range to reach space, and satellites are aimed at the Earth, not away from it.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
      That is, of course, if you live in Norway.

      Norway becomes first country to switch off FM radio

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      But I note that last sentence... only national radio channels.
      Check me if I'm wrong on this. I think what we call "network" is what they call "channel". What we call "channel" is actually a frequency band. For example, they call BBC a channel, but we call BBC as well as ABC, etc. a network.

      And "FM" is frequency modulation, as contrasted to AM, amplitude modulation. They're not getting rid of the stations, just converting them to digital, like we did years ago with television. I used to watch long distance television stations with weak signals, but that is no longer possible.
      When I Survey....

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Faber View Post
        Check me if I'm wrong on this. I think what we call "network" is what they call "channel". What we call "channel" is actually a frequency band.
        I've always thought "channel" referred to what we watch on TV, and "station" is what we listen to on the radio. (either AM or FM)

        For example, they call BBC a channel, but we call BBC as well as ABC, etc. a network.

        And "FM" is frequency modulation, as contrasted to AM, amplitude modulation. They're not getting rid of the stations, just converting them to digital, like we did years ago with television. I used to watch long distance television stations with weak signals, but that is no longer possible.
        A lot may have gotten lost in the translation, yes, but I think the point is that half of the cars can't receive the digital signal, and ... I just thought this was interesting. Technology!
        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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        • #5
          Actually, FM radio is channels 201-300 but nobody in the United States or Canada (that I know of) uses that. Except in call letters for repeater or satellite stations. W201AA or K201AA, for example, would be repeater stations transmitting on 88.1 MHz.
          When I Survey....

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Sparko View Post
            I think this shows the biggest flaw in SETI. They want to search for advanced civilizations by listening for broadcasts, but it is looking like radio and TV are not broadcast through the air in advanced civilizations. Pretty soon everything will be via the internet which is mostly hard wired. Wi-fi doesn't have the range to reach space, and satellites are aimed at the Earth, not away from it.
            The real problem with SETI is that the aliens are ignoring us.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by lao tzu View Post
              The real problem with SETI is that the aliens are ignoring us.
              Proof that they are intelligent.

              I'm always still in trouble again

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              • #8
                Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                Proof that they are intelligent.
                or deef!
                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                • #9
                  Meh, I listen to AM radio anyway. There's a dearth of sport's radio on the FM side.
                  We know J6 wasn’t peaceful because they didn’t set the building on fire.

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                  • #10
                    My car radio got reset and I don't know the code to unlock it. I miss my FM radio stations.
                    "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                      My car radio got reset and I don't know the code to unlock it. I miss my FM radio stations.
                      you can't find the code on google?
                      "As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12

                      There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                        My car radio got reset and I don't know the code to unlock it. I miss my FM radio stations.
                        As long as you can find out what type of radio it is, you should be able to find the code online.

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                        • #13
                          When was the last time you saw a digital radio you can by at your local department store? I know locally there are digital radio broadcasts. Where are the digital radios in the local stores?

                          Oh it is called HD, high definition. A clock radio would be HD, AM/FM.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by 37818 View Post
                            When was the last time you saw a digital radio you can by at your local department store? I know locally there are digital radio broadcasts. Where are the digital radios in the local stores?
                            Best Buy for $70.

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                            Or Walmart.
                            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by lao tzu View Post
                              The real problem with SETI is that the aliens are ignoring us.
                              It takes time to warm back up like in Rendezvous with Rama.

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