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  • #1

    MSM is getting desperate...

    Calling all billionaires interested in saving democracy. Please invest in newspapers.

    HELP DESPERATELY WANTED: Multi-billionaires willing to invest in the newspaper business — not for profit or personal promotion, but for the future of democracy.

    Maybe your last name is Bezos, Omidyar, Buffett, Soros, Gates, Soon-Shiong. Maybe you're Laurene Jobs, who just bought a majority stake in The Atlantic. It doesn’t matter. Local journalism needs your wallet, your generosity, your trust and your promise to not interfere.

    In return, journalists promise strong, fair, accurate and essential journalism that informs and holds public figures accountable.

    Journalism is in serious trouble. The latest player injured in action is the New York Daily News, a venerable and scrappy 99-year-old tabloid that just got its legs chopped off at the knees.

    ...Lest you think the news is good for digital news, it’s not. At least 23 percent of the highest-traffic digital-only news outlets experienced layoffs during the same period, according to the Pew study.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...umn/825235002/

    Maybe if Journalism actually was fair and accurate they wouldn't be failing?

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  • #2

    Originally posted by Sparko View Post
    In return, journalists promise strong, fair, accurate and essential journalism that informs and holds public figures accountable.


    You find the funniest things!
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Sparko View Post
      Calling all billionaires interested in saving democracy. Please invest in newspapers.

      HELP DESPERATELY WANTED: Multi-billionaires willing to invest in the newspaper business — not for profit or personal promotion, but for the future of democracy.

      Maybe your last name is Bezos, Omidyar, Buffett, Soros, Gates, Soon-Shiong. Maybe you're Laurene Jobs, who just bought a majority stake in The Atlantic. It doesn’t matter. Local journalism needs your wallet, your generosity, your trust and your promise to not interfere.

      In return, journalists promise strong, fair, accurate and essential journalism that informs and holds public figures accountable.

      Journalism is in serious trouble. The latest player injured in action is the New York Daily News, a venerable and scrappy 99-year-old tabloid that just got its legs chopped off at the knees.

      ...Lest you think the news is good for digital news, it’s not. At least 23 percent of the highest-traffic digital-only news outlets experienced layoffs during the same period, according to the Pew study.

      https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...umn/825235002/

      Maybe if Journalism actually was fair and accurate they wouldn't be failing?
      Looks like a list of billionaire liberal activists. Conservatives need not apply

      I'm always still in trouble again

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post




        You find the funniest things!
        I thought so too. The irony in promising fair and accurate reporting for a business that is failing because it is NOT fair and accurate was too much to pass up.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
          Looks like a list of billionaire liberal activists. Conservatives need not apply
          Funny how such a liberal business is begging to be rescued by the rich 1%, huh?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Sparko View Post
            I thought so too. The irony in promising fair and accurate reporting for a business that is failing because it is NOT fair and accurate was too much to pass up.
            They COULD just step it up and begin fair and accurate reporting - and I think demand would increase!
            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Sparko View Post
              Calling all billionaires interested in saving democracy. Please invest in newspapers.

              HELP DESPERATELY WANTED: Multi-billionaires willing to invest in the newspaper business — not for profit or personal promotion, but for the future of democracy.

              Maybe your last name is Bezos, Omidyar, Buffett, Soros, Gates, Soon-Shiong. Maybe you're Laurene Jobs, who just bought a majority stake in The Atlantic. It doesn’t matter. Local journalism needs your wallet, your generosity, your trust and your promise to not interfere.

              In return, journalists promise strong, fair, accurate and essential journalism that informs and holds public figures accountable.

              Journalism is in serious trouble. The latest player injured in action is the New York Daily News, a venerable and scrappy 99-year-old tabloid that just got its legs chopped off at the knees.

              ...Lest you think the news is good for digital news, it’s not. At least 23 percent of the highest-traffic digital-only news outlets experienced layoffs during the same period, according to the Pew study.

              https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...umn/825235002/

              Maybe if Journalism actually was fair and accurate they wouldn't be failing?
              I had to double check your link and then check again to be sure you weren't quoting a story from The Onion.
              Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
              But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
              Than a fool in the eyes of God

              From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                I had to double check your link and then check again to be sure you weren't quoting a story from The Onion.
                What is it you always say about not being able to tell the difference between a liberal and a parody of one?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                  Calling all billionaires interested in saving democracy. Please invest in newspapers.

                  HELP DESPERATELY WANTED: Multi-billionaires willing to invest in the newspaper business — not for profit or personal promotion, but for the future of democracy.

                  Maybe your last name is Bezos, Omidyar, Buffett, Soros, Gates, Soon-Shiong. Maybe you're Laurene Jobs, who just bought a majority stake in The Atlantic. It doesn’t matter. Local journalism needs your wallet, your generosity, your trust and your promise to not interfere.

                  In return, journalists promise strong, fair, accurate and essential journalism that informs and holds public figures accountable.

                  Journalism is in serious trouble. The latest player injured in action is the New York Daily News, a venerable and scrappy 99-year-old tabloid that just got its legs chopped off at the knees.

                  ...Lest you think the news is good for digital news, it’s not. At least 23 percent of the highest-traffic digital-only news outlets experienced layoffs during the same period, according to the Pew study.

                  https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...umn/825235002/

                  Maybe if Journalism actually was fair and accurate they wouldn't be failing?
                  Journalism through out the history of humanity since writing was invented has had the same problems and positive points that journalism does today, nothing new. There are other reasons why journalism is declining. First is technology: Today through the technology of the internet journalism and anyone who claims to be a journalist can access the whole world. In the previous history of journalism access was somewhat limited, but gradually these limitations disappeared. Second, journalism is still alive and well on the internet and other mass media ranging from excellent to horrendously terrible. Third, I believe quality journalism still exists in sources like BBC on the internet, radio and television.

                  Like everything else journalism will evolve over time. Some survive and adapt, and others fail to change and do not survive.
                  Last edited by shunyadragon; 07-24-2018, 01:18 PM.
                  Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
                  Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
                  But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

                  go with the flow the river knows . . .

                  Frank

                  I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
                    Journalism through out the history of humanity since writing was invented has had the same problems and positive points that journalism does today, nothing new. There are other reasons why journalism is declining. First is technology: Today through the technology of the internet journalism and anyone who claims to be a journalist can access the whole world. In the previous history of journalism access was somewhat limited, but gradually these limitations disappeared. Second, journalism is still alive and well on the internet and other mass media ranging from excellent to horrendously terrible. Third, I believe quality journalism still exists in sources like BBC on the internet, radio and television.

                    Like everything else journalism will evolve over time. Some survive and adapt, and others fail to change and do not survive.
                    At first I thought the same, but it specifically says that the digital online ones are suffering just as much. Which to me means that people are not willing to read rags they can't trust. And especially are not willing to pay good money to be lied to.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
                      Journalism through out the history of humanity since writing was invented has had the same problems and positive points that journalism does today, nothing new. There are other reasons why journalism is declining. First is technology: Today through the technology of the internet journalism and anyone who claims to be a journalist can access the whole world. In the previous history of journalism access was somewhat limited, but gradually these limitations disappeared. Second, journalism is still alive and well on the internet and other mass media ranging from excellent to horrendously terrible. Third, I believe quality journalism still exists in sources like BBC on the internet, radio and television.

                      Like everything else journalism will evolve over time. Some survive and adapt, and others fail to change and do not survive.
                      I've said it before, but the idea of an honest, world-weary journalist working late into the night and pursuing dozens of leads in a dogged pursuit of the truth is more idealistic fantasy than reality. The truth is that pretty much every major media outlet started over the past few centuries has been started almost exclusively by a rich white man who wanted to "tell it like it is" from his perspective. This notion that journalism has a proud tradition of being neutral and unbiased has never really been true. Even back in the day of Walter "The Most Trusted Man In America" Cronkite, the news was extremely biased, but most people didn't realize it because "The Big 3" -- ABC, NBC, and CBS -- had a monopoly on the flow of information. They decided not just what was reported but how it was reported. That's changed now thanks to the "New Media" which has really done nothing more than pull back the curtain and expose the man who is pulling all the levers.
                      Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                      But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                      Than a fool in the eyes of God

                      From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                        I've said it before, but the idea of an honest, world-weary journalist working late into the night and pursuing dozens of leads in a dogged pursuit of the truth is more idealistic fantasy than reality. The truth is that pretty much every major media outlet started over the past few centuries has been started almost exclusively by a rich white man who wanted to "tell it like it is" from his perspective. This notion that journalism has a proud tradition of being neutral and unbiased has never really been true. Even back in the day of Walter "The Most Trusted Man In America" Cronkite, the news was extremely biased, but most people didn't realize it because "The Big 3" -- ABC, NBC, and CBS -- had a monopoly on the flow of information. They decided not just what was reported but how it was reported. That's changed now thanks to the "New Media" which has really done nothing more than pull back the curtain and expose the man who is pulling all the levers.
                        True. a "free" press doesn't mean an unbiased press. It just means the press is free to be as biased as they want to be. And they are.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
                          Journalism through out the history of humanity since writing was invented has had the same problems and positive points that journalism does today, nothing new....
                          Wrong... today's media have dropped any pretense of fairness or objectivity in their "hate Trump" campaign -- you just don't notice it because you're of the same stripe.
                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                            Wrong... today's media have dropped any pretense of fairness or objectivity in their "hate Trump" campaign -- you just don't notice it because you're of the same stripe.
                            After all, it's their job to tell us what to think.
                            Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                            But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                            Than a fool in the eyes of God

                            From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                              At first I thought the same, but it specifically says that the digital online ones are suffering just as much. Which to me means that people are not willing to read rags they can't trust. And especially are not willing to pay good money to be lied to.
                              I think you are overstating the problem with Journalism, not a good scapegoat, because there do exist competent reliable journal sources, and good judgement can sort through and compare different source. Your neglecting the fact this is an age old problem, and nothing new. We live in a highly polarized cynical world that declares everything that disagrees with them as 'fake news.'
                              Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
                              Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
                              But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

                              go with the flow the river knows . . .

                              Frank

                              I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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