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I'm halfway through listening to a history book that covers Nixon's Watergate scandal, and the way it characterizes the general public's spectrum of emotions is quite similar to what I see today under Trump.
Nixon did the same sorts of attacks on the media that Trump does, and there was daily discussion among the populace of whether he might be impeached and how deep his criminality ran and that caused quite a lot of stress and psychological extremism among the people. It seems very much the same situation replaying itself, and the general US populace seem to be having a very similar psychological reaction.
Whatever you think about Trump, the current period is clearly a politically stressful time for the US, and that does take a psychological toll on its citizens. You don't necessarily have to blame Trump for that - you could equally say "well if the media stopped printing such inflammatory headlines, and liberals all stopped panicking about Trump separating families / banning Muslim immigration / threatening to pull out of NATO / building a wall / tariffs / ALL CAPS THREATENING IRAN ON TWITTER, etc. the country could calm down and support the president and everyone would be less stressed." But I would point to Trump's choice to consistently take a confrontational approach against the media and liberals etc rather than a conciliatory approach, as a major factor in inflaming stress and tensions. Trump seems to not have taken on board the idea that he's the president of the whole country and instead sees himself still in the 2016 primaries as the leader of the MAGA faction over and against the Hillary faction and the media. That choice to deliberately and intentionally be divisive as a President, rather than reach out and try to be conciliatory in your public words and speeches, makes Trump unusual, and it's not surprising it's caused unusual amounts of stress for Americans."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostI'm halfway through listening to a history book that covers Nixon's Watergate scandal, and the way it characterizes the general public's spectrum of emotions is quite similar to what I see today under Trump.
Nixon did the same sorts of attacks on the media that Trump does, and there was daily discussion among the populace of whether he might be impeached and how deep his criminality ran and that caused quite a lot of stress and psychological extremism among the people. It seems very much the same situation replaying itself, and the general US populace seem to be having a very similar psychological reaction.
Whatever you think about Trump, the current period is clearly a politically stressful time for the US, and that does take a psychological toll on its citizens. You don't necessarily have to blame Trump for that - you could equally say "well if the media stopped printing such inflammatory headlines, and liberals all stopped panicking about Trump separating families / banning Muslim immigration / threatening to pull out of NATO / building a wall / tariffs / ALL CAPS THREATENING IRAN ON TWITTER, etc. the country could calm down and support the president and everyone would be less stressed." But I would point to Trump's choice to consistently take a confrontational approach against the media and liberals etc rather than a conciliatory approach, as a major factor in inflaming stress and tensions. Trump seems to not have taken on board the idea that he's the president of the whole country and instead sees himself still in the 2016 primaries as the leader of the MAGA faction over and against the Hillary faction and the media. That choice to deliberately and intentionally be divisive as a President, rather than reach out and try to be conciliatory in your public words and speeches, makes Trump unusual, and it's not surprising it's caused unusual amounts of stress for Americans.
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostI'm halfway through listening to a history book that covers Nixon's Watergate scandal, and the way it characterizes the general public's spectrum of emotions is quite similar to what I see today under Trump.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostMind sharing the name of this book?
(Sorry for the bad joke)."Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostMind sharing the name of this book?
One section I was listening to last night seems particularly analogous to this thread:
pg 266 [TV anchor commits on-air suicide] The sane were a fragile coalition. "Many Americans are in the middle of a depression," ran an advertisements in the Cicago Tribune for the psychology columnist Dr. Joyce Brothers. "And a lot of people feel trapped and helpless to change things. If the state of the union has put you in an unhappy state of mind, take heart. . . . There are things you can do as an individual to attack the national problems and to fight your own depression..."
Also, it was interesting hearing how Gerald Ford attempted to unite the country after Nixon's divisive presidency, by making clear he was president of all Americans rather than a partisan:
pg 272-3 those who confirmed him as vice president [said Ford in his inaugural address] were "of both parties, elected by all the people, and acting under the Constitution in their name." He pledged to be president of all the people, unlike [Nixon]... "... My fellow Americans, our long national nightmare is over. Our Constitution works; our great republic is a government of laws and not men."Last edited by Starlight; 07-30-2018, 07:39 PM."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostSure, it's The Invisible Bridge: The Fall of Nixon and the Rise of Reagan.
One section I was listening to last night seems particularly analogous to this thread:
pg 266 [TV anchor commits on-air suicide] The sane were a fragile coalition. "Many Americans are in the middle of a depression," ran an advertisements in the Cicago Tribune for the psychology columnist Dr. Joyce Brothers. "And a lot of people feel trapped and helpless to change things. If the state of the union has put you in an unhappy state of mind, take heart. . . . There are things you can do as an individual to attack the national problems and to fight your own depression..."
Also, it was interesting hearing how Gerald Ford attempted to unite the country after Nixon's divisive presidency, by making clear he was president of all Americans rather than a partisan:
pg 272-3 those who confirmed him as vice president [said Ford in his inaugural address] were "of both parties, elected by all the people, and acting under the Constitution in their name." He pledged to be president of all the people, unlike [Nixon]... "... My fellow Americans, our long national nightmare is over. Our Constitution works; our great republic is a government of laws and not men."The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostSure, it's The Invisible Bridge: The Fall of Nixon and the Rise of Reagan.
One section I was listening to last night seems particularly analogous to this thread:
pg 266 [TV anchor commits on-air suicide] The sane were a fragile coalition. "Many Americans are in the middle of a depression," ran an advertisements in the Cicago Tribune for the psychology columnist Dr. Joyce Brothers. "And a lot of people feel trapped and helpless to change things. If the state of the union has put you in an unhappy state of mind, take heart. . . . There are things you can do as an individual to attack the national problems and to fight your own depression..."
Also, it was interesting hearing how Gerald Ford attempted to unite the country after Nixon's divisive presidency, by making clear he was president of all Americans rather than a partisan:
pg 272-3 those who confirmed him as vice president [said Ford in his inaugural address] were "of both parties, elected by all the people, and acting under the Constitution in their name." He pledged to be president of all the people, unlike [Nixon]... "... My fellow Americans, our long national nightmare is over. Our Constitution works; our great republic is a government of laws and not men."Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostI was a kid when Ford became president. I remember him as a nice guy who didn't do anything.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostExcept bump his head on Marine One and be somewhat of a klutz. And golf.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostIronically he was probably the most athletic and physically fit president we had in generationsThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostThis is true?Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostThe book has a larger than typical percentage of negative reviews, and most of them actually give cogent reasons for their negativity."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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